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  • #21,841
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:09am Sep 15, 2023 4:09am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} OK, good to know that you revised dozens or hundreds of claims of denied payouts and all were legitim denials. This let us all know much more relaxed about the honesty of this prop. Thanks for your insigths.
I did not check every payout denial but a portion of it, say ca. 12 of them. All cheated. Point. So I did not look further into others.
Most people cannot trade and they start to cheat because they see they have no other chance. I have seen to many of those people. Telegram is full of those cheaters, who wants to get their account passed by HFT passing services. The latest trend is reverse trading across multiple accounts. That is all not allowed, so why bother then?
  • #21,842
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:14am Sep 15, 2023 4:14am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} As I said I have no worries as I did not cheat and I traded all manually and clean. I am already making 5-figures. So with these props I wanted to make mid 5-figures. I have no interest in making 4-figures only per month. That would be a waste of my time and I would rather trade only my personal account instead. Actually I do not trade my personal accounts as I can make much more with these prop accounts. But let's see if I will get paid out. Soon I will know that, within one week from now.
I did not cheat either. I had no worries because I could provide evidence of every single trade of mine that it was executed in alignment with their rules.

But that doesn't matter at all. Bespoke and Funded Next are the only two prop firms who banned me for violating their rules. No evidence provided, no explanation. No intention to discuss. FN refused to pay me a significant amount of money, Bespoke did not let me pass the verification to earn some (as I would get 400K which they considered a serious risk of a large possible payout)

Those two are the only true cheaters I experienced in this prop business and I joined and traded with more than 10 firms for sure
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #21,843
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:14am Sep 15, 2023 4:14am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} OK, good to know that you revised dozens or hundreds of claims of denied payouts and all were legitim denials. This let us all know much more relaxed about the honesty of this prop. Thanks for your insigths.
Which prop firms do you trust actually ?
  • #21,844
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:15am Sep 15, 2023 4:15am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} I did not cheat either. I had no worries because I could provide evidence of every single trade of mine that it was executed in alignment with their rules. But that doesn't matter at all. They both banned me for violating their rules. No evidence provided, no explanation. No intention to discuss. FN refused to pay me a significant amount of money, Bespoke did not let me pass the verification to earn some (as I would get 400K which they considered a serious risk of a large possible payout) Those two are the only true cheaters I experienced...
Which props do you consider as good now ?
  • #21,845
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:16am Sep 15, 2023 4:16am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I did not check every payout denial but a portion of it, say ca. 12 of them. All cheated. Point. So I did not look further into others. Most people cannot trade and they start to cheat because they see they have no other chance. I have seen to many of those people. Telegram is full of those cheaters, who wants to get their account passed by HFT passing services. The latest trend is reverse trading across multiple accounts. That is all not allowed, so why bother then?
I did not. So please stop repeating this nonsense.
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #21,846
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:18am Sep 15, 2023 4:18am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Which props do you consider as good now ?
FTMO and FXIFY. But I prefer trading my own account now
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #21,847
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:18am Sep 15, 2023 4:18am
Well these days it's increasingly difficult to find a serious prop house. I looked at least 20 props and all of them are created to fuck the end user. This makes me think more and more that there is no such thing as a fairy tale: "we earn if you earn" is just a marketing strategy.

There is almost no one who mirrors the operations, simply like a Ponzi they earn on new entries and with that money they pay those few payouts. In fact, when requesting payouts above 5k, some props begin to invent excuses for not paying, such as this:

"we noticed that your trades are the same as those of another user, so you won't get paid".

A case like this is beyond the control of every trader. Even if you trade manually, they will say that someone is doing the same trades as you, but without showing real proof. This is absurd.

Unfortunately, to date I don't feel like recommending any prop house. perhaps one that can save itself is The Funded Trader or FTMO but I have no experience in this regard.
~ Keep on movin' ~
  • #21,848
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:27am Sep 15, 2023 4:27am
Just in case I do not get paid out from Bespoke I would not trust and touch any other prop firm. With MFF my favorite is gone as it seems now. So I would only trade my hedge fund account and then start to trade with my own personal account and concentrate on those two accounts.
  • #21,849
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:36am Sep 15, 2023 4:36am
I am on 3 day of second phase with FXIFY , 2 days more for funded. Minimum 5 days to get funded. Anyway just realized that FXIFY allow crypto trading on weekend, so if anyone need more days trade crypto on weekend with 0.01 lot
  • #21,850
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:58am Sep 15, 2023 4:58am
Hahah miss MFF yet?

seems it, everyday is drama with the prop firms currently in the market. Ftmo laughing all the way to the virtual funds bank.

also I’ll take this chance to further express the funding pips ceo is a clown in the biggest circus
  • #21,851
  • Sep 15, 2023 5:20am Sep 15, 2023 5:20am
Quoting DeltaCapital
{quote} Yeah on instagram a i see ads of them 60$ for 15k account
Do you have the discount code for this offer. Will give them a try at that price. Thankx
  • #21,852
  • Sep 15, 2023 5:24am Sep 15, 2023 5:24am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} I did not. So please stop repeating this nonsense.
I can understand TrAndy reaction. It's the same we see in Telegram. If they denied then you are immediate guilty. They don't admit that a mistake may have happened or, worse, a intentional denial was done.

Anyway, the best way of having a general picture to see who are the most shady props is to look at those that have systematically these claims. Cheaters are everywhere and it's doubtful that they only attack Funded Next and Bespoke (and OFP as well). These three are the ones with multiple claims every week. We don't see that with other props. Size doesn't justify everything bcause otherwise we would have had MFF and FTMO with multiple daily claims and MFFx or FXIFY with same number of claims than FN and Bespoke. This doesn't happen. It's simple logic.

Btw, having received a payout - and I truly hope that TrAndy receives his payout because he is a nice guy and contributed a lot for this topic - doesn't mean anything. I received Funded Next payouts, but that doesn't make them honest at all. They can't deny payments to everyone so they cherry pick, who knows how, the ones denied without evidence or with false evidence.
  • #21,853
  • Sep 15, 2023 5:26am Sep 15, 2023 5:26am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Which prop firms do you trust actually ?
FTMO, FXIFY, 5ers, TFF (for payouts of 4 figures max)
I have accounts also in TFT, E8, MFFx, Bespoke, Blue, Alpha but, despite I received payouts (not in Bespoke yet), that doesn't mean I trust them for one reason or another.
I also had and received payouts from Finotive and Funded Next (and this doesn't make FN a little bit honest or Finotive less shaddy).
TPT (The Prop Trading) and Funded Talent were companies were I received a lot of payouts (and they were not low amounts). Has that made them honest ? (it's a rethoric question).
  • #21,854
  • Sep 15, 2023 5:31am Sep 15, 2023 5:31am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} FTMO, FXIFY, 5ers, TFF (for payouts of 4 figures max) .
If it goes above 4 figures, won't they pay? just curious.
Success = Practice + Patience + Persistence
  • #21,855
  • Sep 15, 2023 5:37am Sep 15, 2023 5:37am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} If it goes above 4 figures, won't they pay? just curious.
I would not trust them for more than 4 figures. In fact I try to keep all props with 4 figures to avoid much risk but TFF I would deliberately stop a winning strike if that would put me over 4 figures.
  • #21,856
  • Sep 15, 2023 6:04am Sep 15, 2023 6:04am
Quoting Takisd
Hahah miss MFF yet?..
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  • #21,857
  • Sep 15, 2023 6:30am Sep 15, 2023 6:30am
Hahahaha.
  • #21,858
  • Sep 15, 2023 6:33am Sep 15, 2023 6:33am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I always use self custody addresses to receive cryptos payouts. I made sure this was OK before requesting the payout to FXIFY. Then, when I decide to exchange it into fiat, I will move the USDT to an exchange. This time I will probably use Kraken for that. They're around since 2017 without much issues so far. I used Binance quite a lot in the past but I zeroed the balance there with all these news about legal cases and so (also because they are having troubles with SEPA transfers because regulation in Europe). I also have a Coinbase account...
ok, thanks for breaking it down. I'll check kraken out.
  • #21,859
  • Sep 15, 2023 7:10am Sep 15, 2023 7:10am
Does anyone have experience with Lux Trading. They claim that they have all their funded traders on A-book only, trading real money not demo.
I have signed up for a demo account on their Lux Trader platform which is a custom version of Tradingview. Their 1 minute time frame feed has been up and down (down mostly) for the last couple of days.
They say they are working on the problem but have not been able to fix it.
I would not be comfortable buying an evaluation account if they cannot fix an issue like this on their platform.
Is anyone here a funded trader with them using their Lux Trader platform, and if so, how has it performed for you?
  • #21,860
  • Sep 15, 2023 7:24am Sep 15, 2023 7:24am
Quoting Lrg
{quote} Do you have the discount code for this offer. Will give them a try at that price. Thankx
I think is SOCIAL15K it only works for 15k account
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