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  • #20,621
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:21pm Sep 4, 2023 3:21pm
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Was MFF the good guy or the bad guy here? They let these traders eat for a while with systems that would have been unprofitable in a live ECN/STP trading environment from day 1.
  • #20,622
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:24pm Sep 4, 2023 3:24pm
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} You are so aggressively pushing that company that it your bias becomes blatantly obvious. Either as having a personal connection to the firm, a paid promotor, or an unbiased zealot driven by a high personal investment into those 800k of funding, aka hopium. The purpose of this topic is to discuss the best deals, not to be advocates for whatever firm. I would not touch BFP when compared to Alpha Capital and FXIFY which seem to be run by uncomparably more experienced people. And to add, I wouldn't even go beyond 2 companies from the same country,...
No problem. I am not connected anything to Bespoke and I only invested a small amount of money. 8k for fees is not much money for me. You know I trade for a hedge fund too getting regularly 5-figure payouts monthly. After reviewing 30+ new prop firms, Bespoke became my number 1 (after MFF). My posting shows this as result of my opinion I built over time here. And I have hands-on experience with them too. So I can tell you something on them. With most others I cannot say much.

Alpha Capital is good and FXIFY I also think too. But they only offer 200k on Alpha and only 400k on FXIFY. That is too small for me. I want to have at least 1 million on funded and I dislike copy trading around, as it is not everywhere allowed and so on, that can cause some problems. So yes, with Bespoke I can have 2 million on funded accounts, they recently reduced that for new challenge takers to 1 million. And you can merge all to one account. I want to go big. So I hesitate in those penny accounts where I cannot merge to 1 million. On MFF I made an exception, but now we see.........

What other firms you can suggest where I can have 1 million in funds at least and they are serious ?

TFF TheForexFunder is scam from what I heard. 2.5 milliion on funded though they allow.

Goatfunding 800k they allow and copying MFF, are they good ? They are in Spain located.

When I talk 1million on funded I mean this without scaling so in one go you can have this when you passed the challenge. That is what I want. Big and fast.
  • #20,623
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:25pm Sep 4, 2023 3:25pm
Quoting Ivy77
{quote} great traders think fast....and do not repeat loosing trades if you lost money with one PROP firm, that is being shut down due to PONZI scheme...then only below average IQ concludes lets try and take advantage of the others.... what advantage??? IF you are so great to be able to make such huge money in FX in just 3 months then i suggest opening account with normal broker who has mt4..... i did that on friday!! AAAAND!!! the beauty is they have even better trading conditions! no FEES!! MFF was charging fees 10% out of your profits....NO profit...
So to summarize you were with MFF and now you're angry.

Thanks for clearing that up for us. Run along now cupcake.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #20,624
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:28pm Sep 4, 2023 3:28pm
Quoting CableJ
{image} Was MFF the good guy or the bad guy here? They let these traders eat for a while with systems that would have been unprofitable in a live ECN/STP trading environment from day 1.
That is the proof. It says itself within the CFTC document. That is why the attorneys must be stupid at least to some extent. MFF had better fills and execution than STP!
  • #20,625
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:30pm Sep 4, 2023 3:30pm
Quoting Dirac
Starts in 1min. I will listen in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQRr5qRVRxI
I really tried but I could only bare 5 minutes before turning it off
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #20,626
  • Edited 3:54pm Sep 4, 2023 3:30pm | Edited 3:54pm
My battle plan.... 400K FTMO (EU), 400K TFF (EU), 100K 5%ers (Israel), 100K Funded engineer (Dubai), 100K Blueguardian (UK soon Dubai), 100K Fxify (UK).
  • #20,627
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:33pm Sep 4, 2023 3:33pm
Quoting CableJ
My battle plan.... 400K FTMO (EU), 400K TFF (EU), 100K 5%ers (Israel), 100K Funded engineer (Dubai), 100K Blueguardian (soon Dubai), 100K Fxify (UK).
Do you trade them all manually or how do you copy trade them each other ? Do they allow this ? What do you use for copying ? For me that would be too many accounts to trade them all manually. I want to keep copying work as small as possible. That is why I ask.
(On 100k accounts I need to go to toilet....I cannot stand that small amounts on available Drawdown. 400k and 500k accounts I like the most if not more is possible.)
  • #20,628
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:36pm Sep 4, 2023 3:36pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Do you trade them all manually or how do you copy trade them each other ? Do they allow this ? What do you use for copying ? For me that would be too many accounts to trade them all manually. I want to keep copying work as small as possible. That is why I ask.
based on their FAQs.... they all support eas & copiers. Just to be on the safe side, I would stick to a local copier rather than VPS hosted to avoid potential IP issues.
  • #20,629
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:36pm Sep 4, 2023 3:36pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} That is the proof. It says itself within the CFTC document. That is why the attorneys must be stupid at least to some extent. MFF had better fills and execution than STP!
Yeh, this is the funniest thing. Even with profiles and commission, real market conditions were still worse.
  • #20,630
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:39pm Sep 4, 2023 3:39pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} based on their FAQs.... they all support eas & copiers, just to be on the safe side I would stick to a local copier rather than VPS hosted to avoid potential IP issues.
You need to ask on Discord. If they do not have a community I would avoid, because then they need silence. I heard so many stories about copy trading and getting no payout and even banned because of that, that I got paranoid about copy trading, that is why I trade every account fully manually. Even MFF made problems on copy trading I read many times. But I get satisfied fast now. With at least 2 million on one account in the next months, I do not need so many other funded accounts. I could probably get another 1 million or so, probably 2 million with a lot of copy trading. But I would be really pissed if I do not get a payout because of copy trading...so...But I am still deliberating what to add...
  • #20,631
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:49pm Sep 4, 2023 3:49pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I really tried but I could only bare 5 minutes before turning it off
Agreed. It was cringe as my children would say.
  • #20,632
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:53pm Sep 4, 2023 3:53pm
One can copy from a remote trader into an instance of the platform that is running a demo on their home computer. Then a local copier can be used to copy trades from this demo onto the props challenge account.
It will look like trades are copied from your own account on the same computer.
  • #20,633
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:53pm Sep 4, 2023 3:53pm
Terms and Conditions must be read on evey prop firm BEFORE you JOIN. Here is a list I have.

Proprietary trading firm terms & conditions will allow you to familiarize yourself with the terms & conditions of prop firms. This way, you will be able to learn everything an individual is required to follow while working with proprietary trading firms that are listed on our website.
You can access proprietary trading firm terms & conditions in the spreadsheet below:
Proprietary Trading FirmProp Firm Terms & Conditions
E8 FundingTerms & Conditions
Alpha Capital GroupTerms & Conditions
AlphachainTerms & Conditions
Audacity CapitalTerms & Conditions
Bespoke FundingTerms & Conditions
Blue GuardianTerms & Conditions
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City Traders ImperiumTerms & Conditions
FidelcrestTerms & Conditions
Finotive FundingTerms & Conditions
Forex Capital FundsTerms & Conditions
FTUKTerms & Conditions
FTMOTerms & Conditions
Funded AcademyTerms & Conditions
Funded Trading PlusTerms & Conditions
FundedNextTerms & Conditions
FunderProTerms & Conditions
Funding PipsTerms & Conditions
Glow NodeTerms & Conditions
Goat Funded TraderTerms & Conditions
Leveled Up SocietyTerms & Conditions
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Ment FundingTerms & Conditions
MyFlashFundingTerms & Conditions
My Forex FundsTerms & Conditions
MyFundedFXTerms & Conditions
Nations TradingTerms & Conditions
OspreyFXTerms & Conditions
Smart Prop TraderTerms & Conditions
Super FundedTerms & Conditions
SurgeTraderTerms & Conditions
The Funded TraderTerms & Conditions
The Trading PitTerms & Conditions
The5%ersTerms & Conditions
TopTier TraderTerms & Conditions
Trading FundsTerms & Conditions
True Forex FundsTerms & Conditions
  • #20,634
  • Sep 4, 2023 3:56pm Sep 4, 2023 3:56pm
Quoting Ivy77
{quote} no i am not angry at all, i opened my own account with a regular broker based in UK, that gives me MT4 platform and less than 1 pips spread ....and many more markets than MFF could offer. I get angry at people who dwell here....and sell their lies....that is what makes me angry.... this guy above that trades 1.4 mio from whoever money if he can make anywhere close to 30% he would not need to write all day long here...Trandy.... this made me angry...cause i smell you are all here to promote this scam business PROP retail business...
So what you are saying is you have the classic victim mentality syndrome and you will now take your ball and not play with anybody on FF?

Ok then run along binky boy.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #20,635
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:00pm Sep 4, 2023 4:00pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} So what you are saying is you have the classic victim mentality syndrome and you will now take your ball and not play with anybody on FF? Ok then run along binky boy.
The activity of new participants in this thread is kind of hilarious.
  • #20,636
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:00pm Sep 4, 2023 4:00pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} When I talk 1million on funded I mean this without scaling so in one go you can have this when you passed the challenge. That is what I want. Big and fast.
Given what we know about the industry and the business model, do you seriously believe you can find an honest operator that can deliver their promises on that kind of numbers without playing some mad tricks?

I'd stick with hedge funds and grow there.
  • #20,637
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:07pm Sep 4, 2023 4:07pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} No problem. I am not connected anything to Bespoke and I only invested a small amount of money. 8k for fees is not much money for me. You know I trade for a hedge fund too getting regularly 5-figure payouts monthly. After reviewing 30+ new prop firms, Bespoke became my number 1 (after MFF). My posting shows this as result of my opinion I built over time here. And I have hands-on experience with them too. So I can tell you something on them. With most others I cannot say much. Alpha Capital is good and FXIFY I also think too. But they only...
Bespoke used to be my number 1 too, until I started trading with them.

FXIFY offers 800 by the way (as 2x 400).
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #20,638
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:10pm Sep 4, 2023 4:10pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} The activity of new participants in this thread is kind of hilarious.
Stop trying to deflect you know you are a secret agent of the prop firm industry.

The nerve of this kid coming here, adding nothing of substance to the thread, and embarrassing himself? That's kind of my thing.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #20,639
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:11pm Sep 4, 2023 4:11pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Terms and Conditions must be read on evey prop firm BEFORE you JOIN. Here is a list I have. Proprietary trading firm terms & conditions will allow you to familiarize yourself with the terms & conditions of prop firms. This way, you will be able to learn everything an individual is required to follow while working with proprietary trading firms that are listed on our website. You can access proprietary trading firm terms & conditions in the spreadsheet below: Proprietary Trading FirmProp Firm Terms & Conditions E8...
I'm sure a lot of these terms and conditions have been written based on 'real' money that they are going to give you to trade with.
Now that it is found out their real money is worth nothing, are they still valid?
  • #20,640
  • Sep 4, 2023 4:11pm Sep 4, 2023 4:11pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Stop trying to deflect you know you are a secret agent of the prop firm industry.
Perhaps I am the one who told them that drawdown rules and $3 commission are the reason i lose my accounts.
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