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  • #18,661
  • Aug 17, 2023 4:57pm Aug 17, 2023 4:57pm
Quoting Boulder
{quote} Don’t be so negative all the time, I believe Takisd , I hope you learn something from him as I do .
Saying not to believe all the garbage on internet is not a negative advice.
Learned Zilch from him.
But When I am 90 and I am on my deathbed and want to act like a cranky crybaby, I'll be sure to emulate him.
  • #18,662
  • Aug 17, 2023 5:44pm Aug 17, 2023 5:44pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Saying not to believe all the garbage on internet is not a negative advice. Learned Zilch from him. But When I am 90 and I am on my deathbed and want to act like a cranky crybaby, I'll be sure to emulate him.
Why so bitter? Or will you finally expose your true form?
  • #18,663
  • Aug 17, 2023 5:58pm Aug 17, 2023 5:58pm
[quote=Takisd;14540354]{quote} Why so bitter? Or will you finally expose your true form?[/quote

It is very sweet actually. You aint seen bitter yet.

If you want to appear in a better light, you can come up with instances of how bad 8Cap is since you hate them so much.
You said you were going to open a challenge with an 8cap prop to expose them about god knows what. Still waiting after a cpl of months.
That will go a long way towards restoring your forum credibility.
  • #18,664
  • Aug 17, 2023 6:03pm Aug 17, 2023 6:03pm
[quote=OutThere;14540359]
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Why so bitter? Or will you finally expose your true form?[/quote It is very sweet actually. You aint seen bitter yet. If you want to appear in a better light, you can come up with instances of how bad 8Cap is since you hate them so much. You said you were going to open a challenge with an 8cap prop to expose them about god knows what. Still waiting after a cpl of months. That will go a long way towards restoring your forum credibility.
I even bought an account with TFT to show you that. But then you decided to be an absolute braindead buffoon and start running your mouth in here, so I decided not to give you the satisfaction. But you are welcome to eat my brown balloon tie. Or better yet, why don't you just ignore me, throw me on that list, I am such an awful person of no knowledge or experience what is the point in having me off ignore?

Even your beloved eightcap company ditched eightcap. But thats ok right because you don't actually know how to trade anyway.
  • #18,665
  • Aug 17, 2023 6:09pm Aug 17, 2023 6:09pm
Quoting Takisd
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I even bought an account with TFT to show you that. But then you decided to be an absolute braindead buffoon and start running your mouth in here, so I decided not to give you the satisfaction. But you are welcome to eat my brown balloon tie. Or better yet, why don't you just ignore me, throw me on that list, I am such an awful person of no knowledge or experience what is the point in having me off ignore? Even your beloved eightcap company ditched eightcap. But thats ok right because you don't actually know how
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Get lost.
  • #18,666
  • Aug 18, 2023 12:21am Aug 18, 2023 12:21am
[quote=OutThere;14540359]
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Why so bitter? Or will you finally expose your true form?[/quote It is very sweet actually. You aint seen bitter yet. If you want to appear in a better light, you can come up with instances of how bad 8Cap is since you hate them so much. You said you were going to open a challenge with an 8cap prop to expose them about god knows what. Still waiting after a cpl of months. That will go a long way towards restoring your forum credibility.
A member opened up a thread about eight-crap exposing some of their devious practices

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1236570-eightcapltd
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #18,667
  • Edited 1:53am Aug 18, 2023 1:28am | Edited 1:53am
Are MFF, FTMO & TFT the only props that are large enough & can be trusted to make multiple 30K+ payouts to a trader without trying to find an angle to deny the payment?

Is going beyond >200K in funding with any other props besides those 3 too risky?

What's the point of maxing out funding if the profit generated from being maxed out will simply be denied.
  • #18,668
  • Aug 18, 2023 3:18am Aug 18, 2023 3:18am
[quote=Expo33;14540725]
Quoting OutThere
{quote} A member opened up a thread about eight-crap exposing some of their devious practices https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1236570-eightcapltd
I looked into 8cap a long time ago as I was trying to find out which prop firms capped the lot sizes in trading. Found out those who all capped it at around 5 lots were using 8cap. Thats when I noted any prop firm who used them as crap even before looking into this thread. When I asked 8cap about they said it was prop firms themselves who set it. When I asked if it can be removed, only under special circumstances if using their broker side not through prop firms. When I asked some of the popular prop firms using 8cap if they can remove the lot size limit, they said just no. Its like a default lots cap they use even in their broker as well. Anyhow, thats my story why I will never touch 8cap personally apart from the other reviews that kept pouring out.

If someone can trade happily with them wonderful. But to any newbie be very aware of the risks. With any broker any prop firm almost all scammers 95% . Most are ex traders who realized they cannot trade or got tired of learning it so they create prop firms to harvest the newbies ignorance then boast about their egos on twitter how big they are and wonderful.
  • #18,669
  • Aug 18, 2023 3:21am Aug 18, 2023 3:21am
Quoting CableJ
Are MFF, FTMO & TFT the only props that are large enough & can be trusted to make multiple 30K+ payouts to a trader without trying to find an angle to deny the payment? Is going beyond >200K in funding with any other props besides those 3 too risky? What's the point of maxing out funding if the profit generated from being maxed out will simply be denied.
Not sure if it was here but someone tested a few prop firms and noticed that only 10k accounts can be used without too big withdrawals on most prop firms without getting rejected or harassed. Apart from FTMO and MFF which got slightly higher tolerance apparently. But anything above 10k is high risk obviously no brainer on small prop firms.
  • #18,670
  • Edited 8:43am Aug 18, 2023 5:45am | Edited 8:43am
How can YOU win the game that plateform, system belong to prop firms; They can control what level you put S/L and T/P with tough terms and conditions for these level. Do business by yourself with your own capital.
  • #18,671
  • Aug 18, 2023 6:45am Aug 18, 2023 6:45am
Quoting labu
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I looked into 8cap a long time ago as I was trying to find out which prop firms capped the lot sizes in trading. Found out those who all capped it at around 5 lots were using 8cap. Thats when I noted any prop firm who used them as crap even before looking into this thread. When I asked 8cap about they said it was prop firms themselves who set it. When I asked if it can be removed, only under special circumstances if using their broker side not through prop firms. When I asked some of the popular prop firms using 8cap
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In your experience and in my experience, we know MFF, FTMO pay whatever the payout size.

Any other firms ?

All seniors can input their experiences pls.
Intraday only.
  • #18,672
  • Aug 18, 2023 6:54am Aug 18, 2023 6:54am
Quoting CableJ
Are MFF, FTMO & TFT the only props that are large enough & can be trusted to make multiple 30K+ payouts to a trader without trying to find an angle to deny the payment? Is going beyond >200K in funding with any other props besides those 3 too risky? What's the point of maxing out funding if the profit generated from being maxed out will simply be denied.
Just put your money with these banks - Washington Mutual Bank, First Republic Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, IndyMac Bank, F.S.B., Colonial Bank, First Republic Bank-Dallas, N.A.,
  • #18,673
  • Aug 18, 2023 8:17am Aug 18, 2023 8:17am
Quoting CableJ
Are MFF, FTMO & TFT the only props that are large enough & can be trusted to make multiple 30K+ payouts to a trader without trying to find an angle to deny the payment? Is going beyond >200K in funding with any other props besides those 3 too risky? What's the point of maxing out funding if the profit generated from being maxed out will simply be denied.
I have no experience in such high payouts because I always keep them at 4 figures (usually 4 figures not very high) to avoid raising attention.

But you have a good point. I think there's not logic in being maxed at shady props like Bespoke, Funded Next, Finotive, etc. We constantly see them trying to screw traders with IPs, dubious rules and other stuff when the payout is significant.

There are two problems:
- If we merge into a 400K or 600K account, then a 5% profit it's a too big payout these props. Better to have the same 30K divided in different props

- If we don't merge and keep, for example 3 x 200K, they may be tempted to invent rules like TPT did in the last days. In TPT if we had 3 accounts with -5K, -3K and +6K, they would not pay the +6K, saying that we are down -2K overall (happened to me). In TFP they pay (happened to me as well).
  • #18,674
  • Aug 18, 2023 10:43am Aug 18, 2023 10:43am
The IP hunting is kind of ridiculous. This is from one of the Telegram channels:

"Hi.
I am having a payout request at MFF but today I got an email. My account's Banned. Reason:
"your account was observed using IP addresses from one city while your Proof of address states that you reside in a different city."
I rent a vps to make sure my IP wont change and their server is located at a data center in another city. my country has 85 cities.
It does not make sense to ban me with this reason. i had some success payout before. Not sure why this time is so hard??? has anyone ever met this case? I replied their email few hours ago and waiting for their reply but i am very worry"
  • #18,675
  • Aug 18, 2023 10:48am Aug 18, 2023 10:48am
Someone stated before that 5ers doesn't allow trading the news. I am not trading the news myself but I can't seem to find on their FAQ that news trading is prohibited.
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  • #18,676
  • Aug 18, 2023 10:48am Aug 18, 2023 10:48am
I asked the chat support and confirmed news trading isn't prohibited with 5ers.
  • #18,677
  • Aug 18, 2023 11:22am Aug 18, 2023 11:22am
Quoting TraderTero
The IP hunting is kind of ridiculous. This is from one of the Telegram channels: "Hi. I am having a payout request at MFF but today I got an email. My account's Banned. Reason: "your account was observed using IP addresses from one city while your Proof of address states that you reside in a different city." I rent a vps to make sure my IP wont change and their server is located at a data center in another city. my country has 85 cities. It does not make sense to ban me with this reason. i had some success payout before. Not sure why this time is...

running out of cash again. fetch me the tax collector!!!

the whole point of being a trader is freedom to trade from whereever u want when u want as long as u have a laptop and decent internet connection. how is that cheating? imho they need more reasons to ban some1. BTW, what is the payout? just for reference
  • #18,678
  • Aug 18, 2023 11:35am Aug 18, 2023 11:35am
Quoting TraderTero
The IP hunting is kind of ridiculous. This is from one of the Telegram channels: "Hi. I am having a payout request at MFF but today I got an email. My account's Banned. Reason: "your account was observed using IP addresses from one city while your Proof of address states that you reside in a different city." I rent a vps to make sure my IP wont change and their server is located at a data center in another city. my country has 85 cities. It does not make sense to ban me with this reason. i had some success payout before. Not sure why this time is...
First of all why to use VPS which is located different in different city ?

Why to give opportunity to Firm to go suspicious ?

1 ) One must use legal name as per contract.

2) One must use legal address

3 ) Preferably, same internet provider all time

4 ) And avoid using EA s better to be manual trades.

5 ) If one knows how to trade with dicipline...yes it is free money. No freddom needed.
Intraday only.
  • #18,679
  • Aug 18, 2023 11:43am Aug 18, 2023 11:43am
Quoting navk
{quote} First of all why to use VPS which is located different in different city ? Why to give opportunity to Firm to go suspicious ? 1 ) One must use legal name as per contract. 2) One must use legal address 3 ) Preferably, same internet provider all time 4 ) And avoid using EA s better to be manual trades. 5 ) If one knows how to trade with dicipline...yes it is free money. No freddom needed.
I use VPS servers located in France because they are cheaper and closer to trading servers. Is that a good enough reason? According to MFF it is ok to use vps as well as EAs.
  • #18,680
  • Aug 18, 2023 11:46am Aug 18, 2023 11:46am
Is there anyone here who was / currently funded with bespoke, any issues so far? (except for the guy who got his payout denied due to his grid system).
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