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  • #18,261
  • Jul 26, 2023 9:49am Jul 26, 2023 9:49am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I have gotten paid 7 times from them , my 8th pay will be on 7/31. I have 100K funded accounts with them. I am not aggressive on payout, Once 3%+ , I stop trading the account. my goal is their VIP program , I want my accounts to last to get to T3,,, {image}
will take advantage of the special most def
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #18,262
  • Edited 11:06am Jul 26, 2023 9:58am | Edited 11:06am
Quoting Soros
{quote} will take advantage of the special most def
I only traded EurUsd using 8 cap .
There are a lot complains about 8 cap about other symbols in this thread, if you trade others , be careful....
  • #18,263
  • Jul 26, 2023 10:26am Jul 26, 2023 10:26am
I want to share this video.. for anyone new to prop, don't give up...He is a very good trader with many payouts...

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  • #18,264
  • Jul 26, 2023 11:23am Jul 26, 2023 11:23am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I only traded EurUsd using 8 cap . There are a lot complains about 8 cap about other symbols in this thread, if you trade others , be careful....
i only trade indices and gold
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #18,265
  • Edited 1:22pm Jul 26, 2023 1:06pm | Edited 1:22pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, FTMO did NOT INCREASE their price as everyone else has on the unlimited days. With unlimited, TFF is now the most expensive 100K.
I missed this. TFF is offering also now the unlimited days? so we have FTMO MFFX and now also TFF? I will check, thanks to confirm.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I updated with TFF ranked now 1st with my new ratio that give a premium to no limits programs

Please confirm me that of high quality prop we have FTMO-TFF-MFFX as unique props with no limits programs


For what I see now, also Funded Trading Plus changed their programs, I will review now, they go unlimited too!
I will check the issue they had with relative-absolute drawdowns if now better.
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  • #18,266
  • Jul 26, 2023 1:10pm Jul 26, 2023 1:10pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} I missed this. TFF is offering also now the unlimited days? so we have FTMO MFFX and now also TFF? I will check, thanks to confirm.
and MFF and TFTP and the %5ers high stakes and FXIFY and Bespoke and probably many I am missing
  • #18,267
  • Jul 26, 2023 1:26pm Jul 26, 2023 1:26pm
I somehow got onto FXIFY's mailing list without having any previous contact, anyway they've been spamming me with some interesting stuff. Is anyone trading with them? They apparently back by FXPIG?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #18,268
  • Edited 1:57pm Jul 26, 2023 1:46pm | Edited 1:57pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} and MFF and TFTP and the %5ers high stakes and FXIFY and Bespoke and probably many I am missing
thank you, I will work today for all this, and tomorrow the spreadsheet will be ready

almost all prop are no limits now, missing the new rule only E8

I will review TFTP later in few hours to check their new offers
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  • #18,269
  • Jul 26, 2023 1:52pm Jul 26, 2023 1:52pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} thank you, I will work today for all this, and tomorrow the spreadsheet will be ready
Just sticking with the top ones on your spreadhseet, only E8, who now offers 60 and 120, doesn not offer unlimited. Everyone else does. Even E8 has some promo, where if you pass within the time, you get an extra 10% on your account, and if you don't you'll have until end of year. So, yes, the unlimited time is standard now.
  • #18,270
  • Jul 26, 2023 2:12pm Jul 26, 2023 2:12pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Just sticking with the top ones on your spreadhseet, only E8, who now offers 60 and 120, doesn not offer unlimited. Everyone else does. Even E8 has some promo, where if you pass within the time, you get an extra 10% on your account, and if you don't you'll have until end of year. So, yes, the unlimited time is standard now.
I checked TFTP and they continue to offer a "relative drawdown" so they continue to stay out of the phase 2 list.

That's it the spreadsheet is ready with the rank with my new ratios

We wait updates from E8 however not so much important for now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
in holiday till end of November
  • #18,271
  • Jul 26, 2023 3:00pm Jul 26, 2023 3:00pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} I checked TFTP and they continue to offer a "relative drawdown" so they continue to stay out of the phase 2 list. That's it the spreadsheet is ready with the rank with my new ratios We wait updates from E8 however not so much important for now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
E8 won't have unlimited for now. They launched a different offer:
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post14509279
  • #18,272
  • Jul 26, 2023 3:17pm Jul 26, 2023 3:17pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} I checked TFTP and they continue to offer a "relative drawdown" so they continue to stay out of the phase 2 list. That's it the spreadsheet is ready with the rank with my new ratios We wait updates from E8 however not so much important for now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Whats with all the ref links
  • #18,273
  • Jul 26, 2023 5:57pm Jul 26, 2023 5:57pm
Quoting Thoughts
{quote} Thanks for this. I really am out of touch with the online prop space in general..I think I'm the last person on the thread finding out FTMO now does unlimited days on their phase 1 &2 trials yet they do nothing with the price..
Not sure why they should as their price level was higher than others before and especially for many in Eurozone, and the USD is way cheaper than Euro for many countries atm. So me personally wouldn't look for FTMO due to this if I just started out to try a Challenge. Now they get closer to the other prop firms some at least in pricing levels. Well MFF is the only competitor as I understand.
  • #18,274
  • Jul 26, 2023 7:09pm Jul 26, 2023 7:09pm
Quoting mrdfx
I somehow got onto FXIFY's mailing list without having any previous contact, anyway they've been spamming me with some interesting stuff. Is anyone trading with them? They apparently back by FXPIG?
i am doing 2 phase challenge at the moment. also i have mff challenge. fxify have no commissions at all, but spreads are a bit higher than mff. at mff acc i have slippage some 1-5 pipttes in all my tardes, at fxify acc no slippage at all. but i see high swaps at fxify. 1.5 times higher than in mff.
  • #18,275
  • Jul 26, 2023 9:17pm Jul 26, 2023 9:17pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} thank you, I will work today for all this, and tomorrow the spreadsheet will be ready almost all prop are no limits now, missing the new rule only E8 I will review TFTP later in few hours to check their new offers {image}
wish you would have made such like comparision and spreadsheet on how to do trading and be in profit
because no matter what we do, at the end we gonna give all profits back to market thats what happening with me :/
  • #18,276
  • Jul 27, 2023 1:30am Jul 27, 2023 1:30am
TFT announcement:
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STANDARD CHALLENGE UPDATE
We will officially be changing the first withdrawal on Standard Challenge to 21 trading days. This will take effect for all current accounts and future accounts. Please give us 5-7 business days max to make this change take affect live for all accounts. Will share updates as they come. The time to get paid on Standard just got a little bit faster. Enjoy!
  • #18,277
  • Jul 27, 2023 1:50am Jul 27, 2023 1:50am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} wish you would have made such like comparision and spreadsheet on how to do trading and be in profit because no matter what we do, at the end we gonna give all profits back to market thats what happening with me :/
I'll quote what I read from a reddit user once when I was more newbie than now. He confessed that he lives on just trading now and did very well. But he was forced into it kind of. He also lost alot in start. But since he was forced into it to survive this also made him to perform the best. No room for errors. No room for games or "luck".
He traded specific instrument which suited his style. But above all he said something important which I notice is the key. That no matter what you need is a risk management and a specific take profit level. No matter what happens on the market. Hit that TP level and be happy.

I would say test all instruments, all currencies and all indices and see which one suits you. Some are faster than others, some are traded best at specific times and so on. Theres backtesting tools so you can backtest everything in history. So reality is opposite how many prop firms try to market it as, "Hey lets have fun and trade some yea its that easy.Hey look at Jorge from Colombia hes billionaire now its that easy!"

Tbh even the platforms work against the trader, since they don't have functions built into them which you normally need for proper risk management at least when it comes to forex prop firms, you need addons obviously. Im not expert tho. But ive seen this pattern now and with those who make living off of this. Many do. But most don't, since they want it the easy way as I understand.
  • #18,278
  • Edited 4:19am Jul 27, 2023 3:58am | Edited 4:19am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} wish you would have made such like comparision and spreadsheet on how to do trading and be in profit because no matter what we do, at the end we gonna give all profits back to market thats what happening with me :/
I believe that now that you don't have anymore max trading day pressure to go to target, this is solved as issue.

Let's say Nasdaq is 11.500 and you see a max risk that could go to a further -20%, you can just now make a 200K account, invest 100K and wait months and wait for your profit target desired. Only a -20% will blow up your account. Also you could do this buying in two-three steps at lower price. And it's done. Just swap fees overnight will be the unique additional cost to that.

Now will be much more easier to pass challenges and go live, but now we will see how the prop will change their behaviour because more people will make Profit more this will be a risk for them to go bankrupt or have their model broken.... so we will understand this in the next 3-6-12 months.

Day trading is much more complex trading and I would not make example there, while if you have a good EA that make a stable profit of 1-2% per month, even better, but also that is not so easy to find and few have it, so again I would not comment about EAs.
in holiday till end of November
  • #18,279
  • Jul 27, 2023 7:54am Jul 27, 2023 7:54am
feeling good after passing phase 2
it was quick because i did not see any drawdown below the balance
mff = 5k account
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  • #18,280
  • Jul 27, 2023 11:28am Jul 27, 2023 11:28am
I don't know which is the prop that is going to announce it, but this was an obvious prediction, now that unlimited is a standard. Faster payouts will be a new trend.

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