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  • #9,641
  • Aug 1, 2022 7:22am Aug 1, 2022 7:22am
[quote=Masterrmind;14085073]
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Lambos still look great! My preference is one of these: {image}Masterrmind .............

I've been looking at getting a vanderhall. But as i prefer to stay invisible i will stick to my incognito bmw.
  • #9,642
  • Aug 1, 2022 11:04am Aug 1, 2022 11:04am
oh lord. The scammer Jessica Ghaney is back with a new scam.
  • #9,643
  • Aug 1, 2022 12:21pm Aug 1, 2022 12:21pm
Quoting Takisd
oh lord. The scammer Jessica Ghaney is back with a new scam.
lol. Don't leave us hangin'. What she got?
  • #9,644
  • Aug 1, 2022 12:22pm Aug 1, 2022 12:22pm
Quoting Takisd
oh lord. The scammer Jessica Ghaney is back with a new scam.
Dam it. Tell us more.
  • #9,645
  • Aug 1, 2022 12:58pm Aug 1, 2022 12:58pm
https://www.tradezie.com

password dowjones1

Cringe.
  • #9,646
  • Aug 1, 2022 2:06pm Aug 1, 2022 2:06pm
Quoting Takisd
https://www.tradezie.com password dowjones1 Cringe.
Haha, 20 successful setups every two weeks with 1:2 RRR at least and 50% win rate minimum. So this is only for daytraders or scalpers. I wonder if there is a minimum target or you can just have a very few pips as TP too, so you inflate the number of trades ? Say you have good run up and have multiple open trades in the same direction, is that also possible ? What is if they cannot sell those huge numbers of signals to the crowd ? How do they assure you get paid, because there is a minimum fee you get for every correct signal ? I really doubt how could be that made to real and meaningful money ? I also could not check contacts etc...anyone...?
  • #9,647
  • Aug 1, 2022 2:12pm Aug 1, 2022 2:12pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Haha, 20 successful setups every two weeks with 1:2 RRR at least and 50% win rate minimum. So this is only for daytraders or scalpers. I wonder if there is a minimum target or you can just have a very few pips as TP too, so you inflate the number of trades ? Say you have good run up and have multiple open trades in the same direction, is that also possible ? What is if they cannot sell those huge numbers of signals to the crowd ? How do they assure you get paid, because there is a minimum fee you get for every correct signal ? I really doubt...

Brought to you by the owner of funding talent. Its a fucking scam. I hope the community shuns her to high hell this time and doesnt believe her bullshit. She clearly run out of money from overspending on her lavish bullshit and is back to scam.
  • #9,648
  • Aug 1, 2022 2:15pm Aug 1, 2022 2:15pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Haha, 20 successful setups every two weeks with 1:2 RRR at least and 50% win rate minimum. So this is only for daytraders or scalpers. I wonder if there is a minimum target or you can just have a very few pips as TP too, so you inflate the number of trades ? Say you have good run up and have multiple open trades in the same direction, is that also possible ? What is if they cannot sell those huge numbers of signals to the crowd ? How do they assure you get paid, because there is a minimum fee you get for every correct signal ? I really doubt...
the site isnt up yet. She is promoting it in her discord. Its also made by wix.... making it even worse.
  • #9,649
  • Aug 1, 2022 2:51pm Aug 1, 2022 2:51pm
This will fail just like the other programs because it is broken and can be easily exploited by anyone that takes 30 seconds to use their brain.
  • #9,650
  • Aug 1, 2022 2:56pm Aug 1, 2022 2:56pm
By the way it is also a bad idea as business model itself. Because there is a clear ranking of those signal providers. Just multiply win rate with RRR and you get a profit factor. Only the first or maybe the second in marketplace can make some additional money from their commissions. It does not make sense to follow number 10 or even number 100 on that list. So the winner takes it all. And then you need to do scalping to get a meaningful number of setups. That is also a lot of work too. I really doubt how it can work. It is shady from the beginning of her thought. No one is taking the lower ranked traders. So you only get the minimum, it is so bad, I hope she will never start with that project and it ends in the sand. Better if she rans out of money before because she obviously cannot trade and need those signals to trade with ? It is also clear that the ranking will change from time to time in not defined time periods. So if one is buying a signalprovider on marketplace it is just a matter of time he will loose some money and then take next winner on that list until they are all that frustrated that the whole marketplace itself is a joke. See signalstart website for example. Or other websites like zulutrade. I have not found anyone so far who could a meaningful outcome of it consistently over a longer period of time. She must fail.
  • #9,651
  • Aug 1, 2022 3:11pm Aug 1, 2022 3:11pm
Quoting TrAndy1
By the way it is also a bad idea as business model itself. Because there is a clear ranking of those signal providers. Just multiply win rate with RRR and you get a profit factor. Only the first or maybe the second in marketplace can make some additional money from their commissions. It does not make sense to follow number 10 or even number 100 on that list. So the winner takes it all. And then you need to do scalping to get a meaningful number of setups. That is also a lot of work too. I really doubt how it can work. It is shady from the beginning...

The purpose of the program is not the signals. Its to convince people they can make money with their shit trading by paying 300 a month to her. The restrictions themselves prevent like 99% of traders from being successful and those that are will find its not worth it.

All the while she is making her self money for nothing.
  • #9,652
  • Aug 1, 2022 3:12pm Aug 1, 2022 3:12pm
Also did anyone see the MFF video of them posting their deel stats (proof) of their payout figures. Pretty funky 11mill in the video over a 30 day period.
  • #9,653
  • Aug 1, 2022 3:19pm Aug 1, 2022 3:19pm
Quoting Takisd
The purpose of the program is not the signals.
-Yes. It seems that she is playing with fire; basically looking for different ways to hide a ponzi scheme. Most people do not understand what is involved with trading, which makes it easier, probably.
  • #9,654
  • Edited 3:36pm Aug 1, 2022 3:20pm | Edited 3:36pm
Her Tradezie business model is a scam. She cannot trick me. Her score is below 1. Let me explain it little bit because it is more complicated to get it. So this is like having instant funding, because you do not need to meet requirements before you can have payout. BUT you need to have 50% win rate minimum and 1:2 Risk:Reward relation for every trade as minimum. So these minimums alone are a kind of requirement. But forget those requirements for a moment and just take your minimum 20 winning trades you need to qualify for a payout. So it is basically 10% DD to 20% profit target, or 5%DD to 10% Target and so on, this does not matter because the relation itself is at least the minimum of your requirement of 1 for risk and 2 for target you need, like having a kind of constant risk to reward ratio. In that case you need to multiply the $999 monthly fee with 7.4 because you need to square the Euler figure for 2.72^2, when you could do or replicate this via own compounding on your personal account. So you pay every month in value $7400 to get the minimum of 20 times $330 per winning signal so $6600 in total. So you pay more than you get in value. Even if you do that twice per month it only gets worse because then the value of $999 goes up to $54760 because you need do that 7.4 twice which is then 7.4^2 to get only $13200 from her. So even with the stricter rules you need those minimum trade criteria in addition to make it harder to achieve, it can be only called a pure scam. Those who are doing the math cannot take her offer seriously. I hope anyone can make the numbers clear in their discord too, before this project will fail too.
  • #9,655
  • Aug 1, 2022 4:09pm Aug 1, 2022 4:09pm
Quoting TrAndy1
BUT you need to have 50% win rate minimum and 1:2 Risk:Reward relation for every trade as minimum.
-And what if you hedge your position? Maybe you take a buy on US30 and a sell on US200? Or maybe a buy on BTCUSD and a sell on ETHUSD?

From my understanding, there is no down-side to losing a trade, other than you don't get paid for it. You can achieve 50% win-rate if your odds are 50/50. It seems flawed to me, unless there is some rule that prevents this.

But even if none of this is true, as previously mentioned, good traders will quickly see that it is not worth it. The sad thing is, if they do not see it, then Jessica will be raking in a ton of money from her ponzi while also stealing good strategies because you are required to not only provide analysis for every trade, but it seems that you are also required to explain your strategy.

Why would any good trader want to do that, especially for peanuts? It's targeting newbie traders that do not know any better, it seems.
  • #9,656
  • Aug 1, 2022 4:31pm Aug 1, 2022 4:31pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-And what if you hedge your position? Maybe you take a buy on US30 and a sell on US200? Or maybe a buy on BTCUSD and a sell on ETHUSD?
It does not matter is the answer, because you always need to have a 1 for Risk or DD in pips or % or whatever and 2 for Reward or Target. So you always need this relation. It does not matter if you hedge it or not, because one symbol must go in your favor 2 times before your SL of the other symbol gets hit. Do not trick yourself !
So in case you found like a perfect hedge of two instruments, the one is already stopped out before the other one has hit your profit target. So there is still risk here.
  • #9,657
  • Aug 1, 2022 4:53pm Aug 1, 2022 4:53pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Do not trick yourself ! So in case you found like a perfect hedge of two instruments, the one is already stopped out before the other one has hit your profit target. So there is still risk here.
-Maybe you misunderstood my point.
  • #9,658
  • Aug 2, 2022 3:57am Aug 2, 2022 3:57am
guys which is good prop firms like fundedtradingplus .. none Min. Trading Days like it ? no limit
  • #9,659
  • Aug 2, 2022 4:36am Aug 2, 2022 4:36am
Quoting maximusa
guys which is good prop firms like fundedtradingplus .. none Min. Trading Days like it ? no limit

If you arent funded with FTMO and MFF to full capacity, we dont recommend firms like that.
  • #9,660
  • Aug 2, 2022 5:00am Aug 2, 2022 5:00am
Quoting maximusa
guys which is good prop firms like fundedtradingplus .. none Min. Trading Days like it ? no limit
Those are TFF (TrueForexFunds), E8(funding) and TPT (The Prop Trading) as I can remember.
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