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  • #1,181
  • Apr 21, 2022 6:32pm Apr 21, 2022 6:32pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} The immediate internal upper-lower look to me to be 167.570 and 166.710 (just horizontal lines on a chart)

The Market Rotations around our boundaries always look easier on the eye on the 1 min charts imho.

Still, where to trade them?

Trade them all, trade some, or pick the eyes. That's our 'trading' part I guess. The market is just the canvas.


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  • #1,182
  • Edited 11:17pm Apr 21, 2022 10:59pm | Edited 11:17pm
Dear All,
Thanks ALL, especially Time Tell, Moody Boot, BWilliams and others wonderful trader.
Trader seem burried in deep conditioning that even most of ourself do not even aware of our self thinking process

LIKE me before...but trading life need appropriate process. Ehhhmmm
Most still not get understanding between half truths and whole truth cause Nakamoto always support high confusion level on ALL condition (all time)
So .. self study alone is best choice ( jusy my opinion)

The question is : what if I have always believed to be the truth turns out to be wrong !!!
Very simple AND very difficult at the same time.

divine paradox.
Cha ...cha

Come ...come
Man in Black

independet thinking is only road
the difference is as thin as a strand of hair
BUT ... IN FRONT OF US all day
  • #1,183
  • Apr 22, 2022 12:00am Apr 22, 2022 12:00am
Quoting deanyakobs
Dear All, Thanks ALL, especially Time Tell, Moody Boot, BWilliams and others wonderful trader. Trader seem burried in deep conditioning that even most of ourself do not even aware of our self thinking process LIKE me before...but trading life need appropriate process. Ehhhmmm Most still not get understanding between half truths and whole truth cause Nakamoto always support high confusion level on ALL condition (all time) So .. self study alone is best choice ( jusy my opinion) The question is : what if I have always believed to be the truth...

Hi deany,
cheers good to see you again

Nakamoto


I always loved your reference to the mystery of our market makers behaviour

- - - - - - -

I guess our average trader really wishes to be told “where” to place their buy or sell, and where to do it - now
And they generally do not want to spend too much time to research what to do,
from which the ‘WHERE” and when follows closely behind.

Some traders will pay other traders to show them how.
And some traders will take money from them.

Which imho defeats the real purpose in all learning (& life)

Unless of course
You NEED to have money right now
Though in which case a job might be a better option, if that is available, rather than allowing ourselves to be tempted by someone just yelling out ... “easy money.”

Which is sadly the sordid history of the eternal sales pitch in many speculative arenas over the years.


To be a trader
(and not a button pusher .... ie “please, my indi, tell me when to place my trade”)
We might need to be one with the market

The market cannot change, and it “has” to do what it does, everyday
Within possible boundaries (CHEERS BWILLIAM)

Boundaries can tell us a couple of things.
They can tell us where range establishes, for a period, and
They can tell us where a breakout and a big price-runner forms

There are reasons why the market MUST do these things, but it can ONLY do it when it suits ‘the market’ and NOT the trader,
mindless prediction can be our downfall, patience for opportunity may be a better way.


According to BWilliam boundaries are basically maths
Defined by lines
Those lines simply being PRICE, seen over at the very right hand side of our chart

(and there is always a mid point between boundaries, cheers failinforex)


If markets have boundaries, which forex currencies must have,
else it would be a true price discovery model where price could then rise to infinity if all were buying, for example.

And if boundaries are defined by only price.
Then the more we use boundaries, the more we might understand their value (if any, lol) and/or validation
(Moody/Andy I know uses BIG huge multi-day boundaries which are amazing to watch come to fruition)

The more we understand boundaries the more we can trust them.

How important is trust?
Well it forms our ‘probabilities’
And our probabilities formulate our trading

BUT IN THE END
each trader has to decide when they push the buy-sell button
and THAT’S the TRADING part
  • #1,184
  • Apr 22, 2022 12:31am Apr 22, 2022 12:31am
Cha ...cha
Always read your post MR. Tme Tell wise
Thaaanks

I'm best looser

Miss Mr. G from Aus ...
  • #1,185
  • Apr 22, 2022 8:39am Apr 22, 2022 8:39am
Gold is being absorbed by the Bermuda, wrecked deep in the sea?
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  • #1,186
  • Apr 22, 2022 5:43pm Apr 22, 2022 5:43pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Boundaries can tell us a couple of things.
They can tell us where range establishes, for a period, and
They can tell us where a breakout and a big price-runner forms


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  • #1,187
  • Apr 22, 2022 5:47pm Apr 22, 2022 5:47pm
Quoting TimeTells
Here's the past 5 days, in GJ, from one aspect,
are the BOJ now overviewing their station lol, who knows yet . {image}

... and the last 5 days lol

Random markets ?

Each can have their own opinion lol, how we trade them is up to us.


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  • #1,188
  • Apr 24, 2022 9:51pm Apr 24, 2022 9:51pm
Funny how the market not only syncs but repeats.....

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  • #1,189
  • Apr 24, 2022 10:07pm Apr 24, 2022 10:07pm
Will they or wont they, no idea, time will tell (Pete) and money management is king.
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  • #1,190
  • Apr 24, 2022 10:23pm Apr 24, 2022 10:23pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote}
Then the more we use boundaries, the more we might understand their value (if any, lol) and/or validation
(Moody/Andy I know uses BIG huge multi-day boundaries which are amazing to watch come to fruition)


Hi Andy,

Again the wonders of the good 'ol, always useful, horizontal lines ( ie = PRICE)

After seeing your charts this morning, it's kinda hard to make any case for Random Long Term Market behaviour I reckon.
Tho they clearly use the age-old Pea & Shell sleight of hand trick (eg where is the price-pea this timeframe, game) in between their runs for Targets.

Great work Andy! Your charts could be mandatory free study, for all new traders wanting to see how the big picture plays out.
  • #1,191
  • Edited 7:45am Apr 25, 2022 7:25am | Edited 7:45am
Let's check so-called crypto thing
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Quoting Ihlas
Gold is being absorbed by the Bermuda, wrecked deep in the sea? {image}
Next target at the same time
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  • #1,192
  • Apr 25, 2022 4:00pm Apr 25, 2022 4:00pm
Will they or wont they...

CADJPY did......So did EURUSD... and GBPCHF ....can't forget ... NZDJPY....how about NZDUSD..... lets chuck in USDCAD.. EURJPY missed by 8.1 pips....

Its random right? Money in , money out, need expensive subscriptions and rocket science in bulls$it...blah blah.
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  • #1,193
  • Edited 9:00pm Apr 25, 2022 8:13pm | Edited 9:00pm
Job Vacancy

Pan Panhandlers required!

If anyone has some spare change or could collect some there is a dude elsewhere with 100% win rate ramping up percentage gains per day greater than double figures wanting either a crowd fund or donation for access to his indicators due to a fee charged by Trading view.
This would of course make him a commercial seller, but that just seems to be beyond his scope of understanding.
If anyone can help and would like the link just search in interactive trading.
Why anyone making double digit percentage gains with 100% win rate would want to give that away is quite beyond my comprehension because that is not how the real world works.
Especially on FF.
  • #1,194
  • Apr 25, 2022 9:00pm Apr 25, 2022 9:00pm
Quoting moodybot
If anyone has some spare change there is a dude elsewhere with 100% win rate ramping up percentage gains per day greater than double figures wanting either a crowd fund or donation for access to his indicators due to a fee charged by Trading view. This would of course make him a commercial seller, but that just seems to be beyond his scope of understanding. If anyone can help and would like the link just search in interactive trading. Why anyone making double digit percentage gains with 100% win rate would want to give that away is quite beyond...
HAHAHA... with a 100% winrate and double digit % daily gains id reckon Wall Street Quant firms would be lining up for that Holy Grail I wonder what that system would fetch on the open market ?
After serious thought...Ive got a bag of beans from a boy named Jack id offer up for that golden goose.
Gotta love FF and all of its lollipops rainbows and Unicorns.
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,195
  • Apr 25, 2022 9:15pm Apr 25, 2022 9:15pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} HAHAHA... with a 100% winrate and double digit % daily gains id reckon Wall Street Quant firms would be lining up for that Holy Grail I wonder what that system would fetch on the open market ? After serious thought...Ive got a bag of beans from a boy named Jack id offer up for that golden goose. Gotta love FF and all of its lollipops rainbows and Unicorns.

The magic money tree… are you saying it’s not real Kev!!
  • #1,196
  • Apr 25, 2022 9:21pm Apr 25, 2022 9:21pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} The magic money tree… are you saying it’s not real Kev!!
You know Andy...If money doesnt grow on trees..why then do banks have branches !

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Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,197
  • Apr 25, 2022 9:23pm Apr 25, 2022 9:23pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} You know Andy...If money doesnt grow on trees..why then do banks have branches ! {image}
Damn, you win…

Kev, my thread, I do the funnies….
  • #1,198
  • Apr 25, 2022 11:13pm Apr 25, 2022 11:13pm
You guys lol. And always some fun on the Dutchman thread


-------

Okay pre-Franky & London saw some "fun" moves on the GBPJPY
110 up, 110 down lol

anyway, a chart says a 1000 (my word posts are longer lol)


Do I see all this when I'm trading?
Not necessarily lol

But the markets do repeat themselves, they have to imho

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  • #1,199
  • Apr 25, 2022 11:45pm Apr 25, 2022 11:45pm
Quoting TimeTells
You guys lol. And always some fun on the Dutchman thread ------- Okay pre-Franky & London saw some "fun" moves on the GBPJPY 110 up, 110 down lol anyway, a chart says a 1000 (my word posts are longer lol) Do I see all this when I'm trading? Not necessarily lol But the markets do repeat themselves, they have to imho . {image}
Beauty of a chart Pete ! Really is.. the LH's and then the HL's just crawling their way back to the Daily Open Line .. Just like following a Raodmap

Isnt it something how a pair can gravitate to and from the DOL... IMO traders dont pay enough attention to it let alone daily H/L's, session opens and closes i.e NY . Previous week HL and so on.

So many traders both new and old chasing elusive holy grail indicators... endlessly tweaking and changing settings periods etc searching for the grail....
Only to come to the realization that a simple line is much more powerful than a handful of indicators....
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,200
  • Apr 26, 2022 12:35am Apr 26, 2022 12:35am
Quoting bluesteele
{quote}
So many traders both new and old chasing elusive holy grail indicators... endlessly tweaking and changing settings periods etc searching for the grail....
Only to come to the realization that a simple line is much more powerful than a handful of indicators....

Cheers Kev,

I agree pal and we all went through it (the search) at some point of course, to understand your wise words.

In the end the market has to (imho) do what it does.

Look at Andy's beautiful charts, earlier on this page. Chart after chart, the same thing, yet who has examined them and asked themselves what they might mean.

Where else can the market go but move price within our charts.

It's the ups & downs that cause confusion, naturally.

And sometimes the ups & downs are so the market can then take price back in the opposite direction.

Sometimes they continue on in the same direction.

But they are always (again, imho only) ultimately heading TO a somewhere (ie NOT just random)

That's pretty much all we have to sort out, in our heads (sounds easier said than done lol).

Best for me now, to sit & wait until they "have to do" their something after they did 'something else' beforehand
(if that makes any sense lol)

Then I just tag along for the ride. Patience & a positive expectation.
(I can still get in bother though, that's trading as we know it, while as Andy also said above, after that money management is king)

all the best
Pete
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