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  • #1,021
  • Mar 18, 2022 8:38pm Mar 18, 2022 8:38pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} {image}
Human emotions are very telling.
The very fact you felt the compulsion to post here would suggest that you are hurting.
If you are looking for foot traffic to your thread and subsequent private group may I be so bold as to advertise in the Commercial section.
Thanks for dropping on by and if you think you have something of value to add to the thread please do consider laying off the sauce before posting.

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  • #1,022
  • Edited 10:59pm Mar 18, 2022 9:00pm | Edited 10:59pm
Space reserved for Rick to post!

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............................”Wait for for me Rudy"

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I've been waiting for you, Rick! We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner.Now, *I* am the master.


Free indicators, get your indicators…. "Come on Traders".........

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Candyland……….,

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...rading%20forex

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Thanks Rudy, Rick will take that under advisement.
  • #1,023
  • Edited 1:06am Mar 19, 2022 12:25am | Edited 1:06am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} {image}
It is very unfortunate that ignorance is the biggest BS, and common sense is a punishment because we have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

dont think i dont use or trust volume, deltas but i use them accordingly and believe that they follow price too.

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After few hours
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"Exchange of hands"
  • #1,024
  • Mar 19, 2022 2:33am Mar 19, 2022 2:33am
Quoting bilal1947
{quote} It is very unfortunate that ignorance is the biggest BS, and common sense is a punishment because we have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it. dont think i dont use or trust volume, deltas but i use them accordingly and believe that they follow price too. {image} After few hours {image}
Don't underestimate him/her, always post results like so -
+1% pipicoin
+0.5% totocoin
+1.5% jujucoin
+2.5% lilicoin

yesterday 100%
Today 100%
tomorrow 100%

Aren't these results impressive.

btw this is my result everyday from today onward -
100%
so please respect me as the best trader ever to walk on this planet.
  • #1,025
  • Mar 19, 2022 8:46am Mar 19, 2022 8:46am
Quoting bilal1947
{quote} It is very unfortunate that ignorance is the biggest BS, and common sense is a punishment because we have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it. dont think i dont use or trust volume, deltas but i use them accordingly and believe that they follow price too. {image} After few hours {image}
1 lot size trading with 750$ equity is gambling. And no matter what you are using and what you believe in.
Observer effect
  • #1,026
  • Mar 19, 2022 11:47am Mar 19, 2022 11:47am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} 1 lot size trading with 750$ equity is gambling. And no matter what you are using and what you believe in.
Lot size is the most irrelevant thing since it is not handled by me any more, unless i trade manually, i don't even know what will be the next trade lot size it going to choose that's how irrelevant it is! as you may have observe the variation in the lot sizes from 0.39, 0.60, 0.76, 0.80, 1.11

My system has made me free of worrying about SL in pips and Lot sizes and yet i am not gambling. Magical
"Exchange of hands"
  • #1,027
  • Mar 19, 2022 4:44pm Mar 19, 2022 4:44pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} 1 lot size trading with 750$ equity is gambling. And no matter what you are using and what you believe in.
Hey Ryuryu,

Just thought id point out to you that your mistaken.

$750 is not the equity..thats the profits from a given period and by the looks of the pics the dates are all 03/18
which means thats the history for 1 day..

Nothing at all to do with equity.. Equity is unknown. Could be 100k who knows.

So your completely wrong with your assumptions.. Alot of new traders make these simple mistakes.
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,028
  • Mar 19, 2022 4:51pm Mar 19, 2022 4:51pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} Hey Ryuryu, Just thought id point out to you that your mistaken. $750 is not the equity..thats the profits from a given period and by the looks of the pics the dates are all 03/18 which means thats the history for 1 day.. Nothing at all to do with equity.. Equity is unknown. Could be 100k who knows. So your completely wrong with your assumptions.. Alot of new traders make these simple mistakes.
okay but balance?
Observer effect
  • #1,029
  • Mar 19, 2022 5:04pm Mar 19, 2022 5:04pm
For the whom believes in magic . At least you should make 200% profit next week
Added some magic wands for the attraction
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  • #1,030
  • Mar 19, 2022 5:14pm Mar 19, 2022 5:14pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} okay but balance?
Only relevant to the date in question.
  • #1,031
  • Mar 19, 2022 5:33pm Mar 19, 2022 5:33pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} okay but balance?
Balance and profit are the same in the history tab.
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,032
  • Mar 19, 2022 6:56pm Mar 19, 2022 6:56pm
Quoting Ihlas
For the whom believes in magic .
At least you should make 200% profit next week
Added some magic wands for the attraction {image}

Hahaaa, nice work Ihlas.
  • #1,033
  • Mar 19, 2022 7:19pm Mar 19, 2022 7:19pm
Quoting TimeTells
And last night on GJ, was the perfect example of repeated forex market BEHAVIOUR {image}

Looking back at the chart pic on that post for GBPJPY, in the quote above, again, magic or mystery keeps on showing up.

Is THIS what I look for when I am trading ... NO ... but IT'S still there.

And when I look at those charts, and Ihlas's chart above, what it DOES for me is show "confirmation".

Confirmation that our forex markets are NOT random. In fact they are "very" well organised.

Little clues like this to a markets Behaviour, might assist (who knows) some traders who struggle with the inevitable
whipsaws & fake shakeouts, which then lead to unexpected losses, which then might lead some traders,
to search out more & more data
OR else have to pay other traders for help

It IS possible though, but not easy, to trade without the "training wheels" of data and multiple indicators (which CAN of course be used LATER),
ONCE the market mechanics are comprehended & integrated


Look Ma, No Hands, it's magic
(well no indi’s)

I do LOL, however, use indi’s, to alert me visually with quick sideways glances, to a market ‘occurance’ or structure variation,
but NOT to tell WHICH candle to trade (remember the whipsaws & shakeouts)


The problem with fibos can be, where do you place the 0% and the 100% (which are variables wherever you want use them)


Here, and after the event (thx Ihlas), I placed the 0% at the day open, and the 100% at the London Fake 'N Flip candle from Friday's chart pic.
Was it just the right amount of Buyer's & Seller's that, after the London Fake, saw price finish the day at the 200%
- the exact same distance move - as the day open to London Fakeout. Coincidence, magic OR market behaviour ?

I cannot trade with fibo's in front of my eyes, too distracting, and the HL's (& LH's in a downwards move) I just see without recording them all.

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  • #1,034
  • Mar 19, 2022 8:50pm Mar 19, 2022 8:50pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Looking back at the chart pic on that post for GBPJPY, in the quote above, again, magic or mystery keeps on showing up. Is THIS what I look for when I am trading ... NO ... but IT'S still there. And when I look at those charts, and Ihlas's chart above, what it DOES for me is show "confirmation". Confirmation that our forex markets are NOT random. In fact they are "very" well organised. Little clues like this to a markets Behaviour, might assist (who knows) some traders who struggle with the inevitable whipsaws & fake shakeouts, which then...
Bullshit I say!!🏎
  • #1,035
  • Mar 19, 2022 9:44pm Mar 19, 2022 9:44pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote}
Bullshit I say!!��



Hahaaa Andy,

I get that a lot, for some reason, (most magicians do I reckon )



Now down to some more Forex business again.


We might, in our heads only, assume the market is well organised,
and many great traders n the past have previously suggested to just trade the market as if it were a one singular entity

But none of that really matters at the very point you are to push the buy or sell button.

but IF

if ... the market is (well) organised then Forex would have to be ‘organised’ a particular way I reckon …
... maybe like the good ol’ PEA & SHELL game. Where is the pea?


This would not be a cheating or manipulative behaviour AT ALL, if you think about it deeply.
But it would be confusing to many traders.

If it is organised then, IMHO, it is because it is actually quite NECESSARY, at some deeper economic/financial level beyind all our simplistic trading, AND
would happen for its own (and ours as traders, ultimately) survival of continuance.

I cannot see the market being able to operate any other way really, than being NOT a classic pure ‘price discovery’ model,
well at least NOT in the short term, small timeframe charts that many traders operate daily.

I mean who looks at price discovery over a weekly period for goodness sakes
- well I bet many institutions, management banks, and many savvy traders DO
(but I don't know, I haven’t worked in the business, I can only just observe it from external to it).


So, maybe it is run like a “pea & shell” game, ie “where is the pea hiding ” (ie where is price going)
Sleight of hand, sort of ... which Shell is the Pea ‘now’ under.

If that’s the case, and who knows, then ‘they’ would be UNLIKELY imho to put
the pea under the SAME shell each time. (the same method of discovery I mean)
I mean, everybody would cotton on to it eventually lol (well some wont, but that I don’t believe is fully their own fault, but that’s another story).

Our FF guys who are using external vol data are also showing us that our retail market mt4 screens etc are actually devoid of volume at most times.
This seems to me to be absolutely correct, so cheers for showing us your data Rick & ryu.
I'm not seeing even ONE of those six trillions come across my screen when I'm trading
(while it's probably all happening/transacting 'off-site' between the major Tiers & large industry)

Market Behaviour, Market Mechanics, what the heck is price up to lol ?

Work out, observe, and test these Mechanics, and you might just free yourself. (and from needing what others might provide you, and at a price )
  • #1,036
  • Mar 20, 2022 2:15am Mar 20, 2022 2:15am
Indis

Why are some so against them,
and some cannot operate without them ?

If we test out our own observational skills & logic, we could maybe learn something more about us,
and maybe therefore something more about the market.


How many Market Mechanics can we see on the following chart.

And YES, it’s the same GBPJPY chart again lol. Just looked at in another way.


Can we count up in our heads the number of market mechanics (the market behaviour),
as we know it, that we can see on the following chart.

Price is rising.

Then BOOM, a fake against the LOGICAL trade direction to the extent of some 50 PIPS,
which takes out some traders and “the market is rigged, or why does this happen to me again, etc”

We cannot know the market will fake and flip.
We can guess, apply probability, and always have ourselves an exit or entry plan, if it does happen, but WHY would it happen.

Well who really knows? Unless we might assume the market is very well organised, maybe !

But why would ‘the market’ do that to us? There has to be more.

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  • #1,037
  • Mar 20, 2022 2:33am Mar 20, 2022 2:33am
Well, and in my simplistic thinking here, no data, just thoughts & observations.


I would be thinking that if EVERY indicator and template was maybe turning UP.

ALL the indi/template owners who now see BUYs, especially as the London Open spiked, got caught up in the buying frenzy, it was logical

so at some POINT, something must happen, to all our retail trades and maybe with the Liquidity Providers that absorb all our Brokers trades,

Which leaves a question that, at this point NOW when price is UP

WHO is the counter-party to all the BUY trades. Are they all other traders ?

else who is absorbing every one of the buys,
and what might they be thinking

I don’t know, but at THE point where the market flipped over some 50 pips crikey,
I reckon that would have shaken out plenty with the Fake ‘n Flip.

And the market, THEN, minus those earlier buyers who ‘tapped out’, could now happily resume in its original AND logical BUY direction.

Our indis won’t present all this to us, candle by candle, even if they ARE correct (in a sense) by showing us the logical direction.

Looking at same GBPJPY in another format with some basic indis as guides.

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  • #1,038
  • Mar 20, 2022 2:35am Mar 20, 2022 2:35am
Quoting TimeTells
How many Market Mechanics can we see on the following chart.
Zero. Your chart contains only open, close, high and low data, formed as candles. But market moves by market orders. There are no data about trades on your chart.
Every candle has its color due to only one rule: if closed higher than open it is green, if closed lower it is red. No more data here.

Everything else you came up with in your head, this can in no way be a consequence that can be assumed from existing data. It all exist only in your imagination.

The funniest thing, for example, is that "5 hours" thing and "50 pips". Looks like you like number 5 very much. Why it is not 6 and 60? Let me guess, if we have so many 6 number then we can see like 666, but hey it is very very very bad number yes? But 555 is very good.

Magical thinking at its best zero knowledge, zero sense, but a lot of magic.
Observer effect
  • #1,039
  • Mar 20, 2022 3:01am Mar 20, 2022 3:01am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote}
The funniest thing, for example, is that "5 hours" thing and "50 pips". Looks like you like number 5 very much.
Why it is not 6 and 60?



Hi ryuryu,

Oh my goodness, I rarely get such a laugh on a Sunday, thank you. "Why not 6 & 60 indeed"


You see, the ONLY two pieces of real data on my charts were the 5 hours
(which you could simply have counted, by the candles lol, and on just ONE of your own hands)

And the 50 pips was the actual price move of the whole fake n flip
(I use the cross-hairs on my mt4 to check the price moves)


Yet Ryu you failed to even observe REAL data on a chart.
Honestly ryu I am not making fun of you, but that is hilarious sir.
And,

that was NOT even the question I had asked, at all,

I asked
"Can we count up in our heads the number of market mechanics (the market behaviour),
as we know it, that we can see on the following chart."

I am doing up a new chart, that GBPJPY again lol, just for you pal, with one (glaring, well to me, cheers George) Market Mechanic Behaviour
  • #1,040
  • Mar 20, 2022 3:20am Mar 20, 2022 3:20am
Quoting TimeTells
Can we count up in our heads the number of market mechanics (the market behaviour)
Market mechanics is market orders, they move the market. Red and green rectangles called candles don't move the market, they show history.

Could you show please complete logical chain, how after seeing the sequence of red and green candles you came to conclusion that price will go higher or lower. Step by step please
I want to learn so much!
Observer effect
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