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  • #6,421
  • Jan 24, 2022 10:33pm Jan 24, 2022 10:33pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} That's a beast of a symbol that you're trading. Even so 84 pips during what I assume was the Asian session is rather nasty, not very likely but certainly possible. Can you share a screenshot here ? You might like to visit the discord too. Keep us updated. Masterrmind .........
It happened right at rollover. Holding GBPNZD at rollover, unless your stop is 300-400 pips away is suicide. However, on FTMO and several of my personal accounts, there is nothing even close to that spike seen on MFF. I mean I'm talking like 60-65 pips difference. With that being said, you can contact them, but every every feed is a pool of LPs providing best bid and ask, so more than likely the answer is going to be normal market behavior. I would not recommend holding GBPNZD at rollover with any broker.
  • #6,422
  • Jan 24, 2022 11:02pm Jan 24, 2022 11:02pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} That's a beast of a symbol that you're trading. Even so 84 pips during what I assume was the Asian session is rather nasty, not very likely but certainly possible. Can you share a screenshot here ? You might like to visit the discord too. Keep us updated. Masterrmind .........

point is, compare to other broker/firm how is their service. here symbol is not the issue. bcz in future more than 100 pips will be hunt. so how much a trader use as sl? 1000 pips or 5000 pips? what is happened is called sl hunting. if most of the brokers dont have this than its fishy.
  • #6,423
  • Jan 24, 2022 11:03pm Jan 24, 2022 11:03pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} It happened right at rollover. Holding GBPNZD at rollover, unless your stop is 300-400 pips away is suicide. However, on FTMO and several of my personal accounts, there is nothing even close to that spike seen on MFF. I mean I'm talking like 60-65 pips difference. With that being said, you can contact them, but every every feed is a pool of LPs providing best bid and ask, so more than likely the answer is going to be normal market behavior. I would not recommend holding GBPNZD at rollover with any broker.


hahah, if it was 300 pips sl and hunthed, im sure ull come up with 1000-5000 pips sl logic, we all know that.
  • #6,424
  • Jan 25, 2022 2:26am Jan 25, 2022 2:26am
Is this real pips from price, or what MetaTrader uses, as calculating distance, since these are out due to the number of decimal places used.

If this is just spreads widening at close, then 10-20 pips would be normal from a broker on non major pairs, which in metatrader could equate to 100-200
  • #6,425
  • Edited 3:01am Jan 25, 2022 2:41am | Edited 3:01am
new ruless came up for mff ----

If you believe you have encountered a server issue, attempted to close your loss but were unable to do so, attempted to take profits but were unable to do so, and your SL or TP slipped (which is highly unusual), please contact the website live chat or email [email protected] with a screenshot of your journal tab showing the failed close attempt. Also, you have violated one of our rule that you have to use our account as a master account. Kindly from now on use our as the master account.


received after sending my complain. though nothing about my complain but new rules imposed


no idea what wrong with them. this is from their site
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  • #6,426
  • Jan 25, 2022 6:11am Jan 25, 2022 6:11am
Quoting inversio
{quote} hahah, if it was 300 pips sl and hunthed, im sure ull come up with 1000-5000 pips sl logic, we all know that.
No, not true. I already commented I didn't see it elsewhere. My point is, it is rollover and it is GBPNZD. Probably the absolute worst pair to be holding at rollover. I doubt it was a top hunt simply because you were probably the only trade on the books in GBPNZD at rollover.
  • #6,427
  • Jan 25, 2022 6:19am Jan 25, 2022 6:19am
Quoting inversio
{quote} point is, compare to other broker/firm how is their service. here symbol is not the issue. bcz in future more than 100 pips will be hunt. so how much a trader use as sl? 1000 pips or 5000 pips? what is happened is called sl hunting. if most of the brokers dont have this than its fishy.
Yes I don't see spreads even close to that on the brokers I use.

Certainly want to be very aware of holding positions on these type symbols on MFF if the spread blows out to near 80 to 100 pips on GN.

Could be fatal if you were holding largish volume relative to your account size.

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,428
  • Jan 25, 2022 6:24am Jan 25, 2022 6:24am
Quoting TradeUP
Is this real pips from price, or what MetaTrader uses, as calculating distance, since these are out due to the number of decimal places used. If this is just spreads widening at close, then 10-20 pips would be normal from a broker on non major pairs, which in metatrader could equate to 100-200
Yes on GN at rollover quite common to see 20 to 30 pip spread but I haven't seen the 80 to 100 pip mark that's just insane.

Mind you, I rarely if ever trade GN or any other beast of a symbol at rollover although I certainly have had positions open during rollover on my own personal accounts but with wide stops on relatively low volume.

Not with a Prop Firm though as the tendency initially is to trade with very liquid pairs such as EU or other major pairs.

In any case, best to avoid rollover when trading the big movers.

Masterrmind ..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,429
  • Jan 25, 2022 7:01am Jan 25, 2022 7:01am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Yes I don't see spreads even close to that on the brokers I use. Certainly want to be very aware of holding positions on these type symbols on MFF if the spread blows out to near 80 to 100 pips on GN. Could be fatal if you were holding largish volume relative to your account size. Masterrmind .........
if this is normal on mff than thier trading enviorment is not good. which is required to pass the program and continue the trading. or if its a glitch than they should fix asap.
  • #6,430
  • Jan 25, 2022 7:02am Jan 25, 2022 7:02am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} No, not true. I already commented I didn't see it elsewhere. My point is, it is rollover and it is GBPNZD. Probably the absolute worst pair to be holding at rollover. I doubt it was a top hunt simply because you were probably the only trade on the books in GBPNZD at rollover.



if this is normal on mff than thier trading enviorment is not good. which is required to pass the program and continue the trading. or if its a glitch than they should fix asap.
  • #6,431
  • Jan 25, 2022 9:31am Jan 25, 2022 9:31am
Holding GBPNZD at rollover is just asking for trouble.
  • #6,432
  • Jan 25, 2022 4:35pm Jan 25, 2022 4:35pm
I tried to search here for any info regarding The Funded Trader program, but my search yielded several generic off-topic results due to the terms used, obviously.

Any insight, opinion etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • #6,433
  • Jan 25, 2022 4:51pm Jan 25, 2022 4:51pm
Quoting inversio
{quote} if this is normal on mff than thier trading enviorment is not good. which is required to pass the program and continue the trading. or if its a glitch than they should fix asap.
It could start to become a problem if they view it as normal market conditions because then how much can the spread widen for it to continue to be classified as normal market conditions.

Ideally you would want it as good if not better than their competitors and similar to the big brokers.

Trading the major pairs and Gold on MFF I never really had any issue at all.

Of course, the conditions were not the same as the main brokers I use but it was still ok.

It would be useful to screenshot the spread of several crosses at rollover or better still to capture each pairs spread profile either side of rollover.

Masterrmind ........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,434
  • Jan 25, 2022 4:52pm Jan 25, 2022 4:52pm
Quoting qazaq
I tried to search here for any info regarding The Funded Trader program, but my search yielded several generic off-topic results due to the terms used, obviously. Any insight, opinion etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Try the links provided in Post 1.

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,435
  • Jan 25, 2022 5:43pm Jan 25, 2022 5:43pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Try the links provided in Post 1. Masterrmind .........
Hey mate. You haven't added to the front page the links I gave a week ago

https://dt4xtrader.com/
https://www.tentoptraders.com/
https://www.forextradersuk.com/

Cheers
Look Left Trade Right
  • #6,436
  • Jan 25, 2022 6:55pm Jan 25, 2022 6:55pm
Quoting Basill
{quote} Hey mate. You haven't added to the front page the links I gave a week ago https://dt4xtrader.com/ https://www.tentoptraders.com/ https://www.forextradersuk.com/ Cheers
Thanks Basill.

I will add them today.

Cheers,

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,437
  • Jan 25, 2022 7:02pm Jan 25, 2022 7:02pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} It could start to become a problem if they view it as normal market conditions because then how much can the spread widen for it to continue to be classified as normal market conditions. Ideally you would want it as good if not better than their competitors and similar to the big brokers. Trading the major pairs and Gold on MFF I never really had any issue at all. Of course, the conditions were not the same as the main brokers I use but it was still ok. It would be useful to screenshot the spread of several crosses at rollover or better...
it may be ok for u or to few others as well. but no idea why it is? still any non biasd person would say it is not normal condition if trading enviorment is not matched to industry average. if this kind of think is normal than their is no dishonesty from any broker/firm side in this market at all. not only the sl hunting. they chnaged the rules for using copy ea also and inform im violating the rules. posted above .
  • #6,438
  • Jan 25, 2022 7:27pm Jan 25, 2022 7:27pm
Quoting inversio
{quote} it may be ok for u or to few others as well. but no idea why it is? still any non biasd person would say it is not normal condition if trading enviorment is not matched to industry average. if this kind of think is normal than their is no dishonesty from any broker/firm side in this market at all. not only the sl hunting. they chnaged the rules for using copy ea also and inform im violating the rules. posted above .
I understand your point of view.

I'm not biased in any way, it's simply a matter of what is reasonable at the current time from the current offerings.

I research other Prop Firms very regularly and if I find one that matches up to at least the current top 2 then I'll be sure to post it here.

In any case, as for your matter, it is a concern but as I said before what would be good would be to have a spread profile with screenshots of several symbols across at least a few ' reasonable brokers' feeds so reasonable comparisons could be made.

This would further strengthen your case.

You could simply have several symbols visible at the same time with their spreads and take screenshots either side of the rollover to capture the details.

Recorded would be the best but it's not absolutely necessary here.

Then pass on this information to MFF support for comment.

Masterrmind ........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,439
  • Jan 25, 2022 8:16pm Jan 25, 2022 8:16pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} I understand your point of view. I'm not biased in any way, it's simply a matter of what is reasonable at the current time from the current offerings. I research other Prop Firms very regularly and if I find one that matches up to at least the current top 2 then I'll be sure to post it here. In any case, as for your matter, it is a concern but as I said before what would be good would be to have a spread profile with screenshots of several symbols across at least a few ' reasonable brokers' feeds so reasonable comparisons could be made....

i didnt post here to solve the case from mff. im just sharing my experience . already mailed them with SS and i share the reply from them as well. they are now trying to find fault from my side. though i dont have any. thats really disapointed that they dont even comment on the issue on email. and here what i found there r manily 2 groups or division. some very much biased on 1-3 firm. some are not . ( maybe im wrong but i feel like this ). bcz some firm were bullied here bcz they offer certain broker who has bad trading environment . what are the trading environmet other than- execution, spreads, re-qutes, spikes . ( add some if i missed cant reacall at this time) .


u already told that u didnt find any match of last night incident with other broker u use. same also with me and 1/2 other also said so. means what was happend is not normal. if it is then most of the broker faced it if not all. and if this unusual thing is ok to anyone then i cant force them to accept the truth that this is not ok condition.


there are many brokers in the market who offers very fast withdrawal, high leverage, good support, tight spreads, bonus etc etc. but little experienced person avoid those firms bcz of bad trading environment. the most common cheating method applied are- slippage , re-qouts and spreads widening/spikesfor sl hunt. and in their t&c they put supportive clause to check this issues. still those are very popular broker ppl like them. but that dosent mena their trading enviorment is good. their other offering is good but trading environemtn is not.

same here mffs program offer is very good . few firms are offering this type of program offer at this moment ( only considering the program offer) .

but their trading environment is not good which is important to survive. this is my point.

if anyone not agree with this im not forcing to accept this.

no intension to say who is best or wrose.

sharing for ppls help. simple.
  • #6,440
  • Jan 25, 2022 9:02pm Jan 25, 2022 9:02pm
Quoting inversio
{quote} i didnt post here to solve the case from mff. im just sharing my experience . already mailed them with SS and i share the reply from them as well. they are now trying to find fault from my side. though i dont have any. thats really disapointed that they dont even comment on the issue on email. and here what i found there r manily 2 groups or division. some very much biased on 1-3 firm. some are not . ( maybe im wrong but i feel like this ). bcz some firm were bullied here bcz they offer certain broker who has bad trading environment . what...
I would not necessarily call them biased.

For those that have traded with them, used their trading platform(s) and have real experience then it's reasonable for them to state their like for a particular Prop Firm since their experience has been good.

If their experience changes then I would hope they report this here so all other traders can benefit.

I stay in tune with the MFF discord very regularly.
I see very little complaints about spread widening, stop hunting although there have been a few from time to time.

I offered you a more involved way to present your case to MFF support since I didn't see a convincing explanation from you regarding the spread widening.

I suggest you consider doing so and email support.

If not that's your call to make but don't expect much to happen if you don't.

If several traders were reporting issues such as yours with reasonable proof then I'm sure the MFF team would take it very serious.

As far as my experience goes with MFF sure the spread(s) are a bit higher than what I'm used too but still I found no issue trading with them, same can be said about FTMO.

Don't hold positions around or through rollover on the big movers such as GN, GJ, GA, GCad etc and you'll probably have a much nicer experience.

If not consider other options with other Prop Firms as there are many.

Good trading and thanks for sharing your experience here it is appreciated.

Masterrmind ..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
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