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  • #4,841
  • Oct 26, 2021 7:32am Oct 26, 2021 7:32am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} cTrader always shows me the relevant unit which I trade. Be it oz, barrels, indices, coins, contracts (e.g. soft futures) etc. Don't you see what exactly you trade in your trading platform?
I am an MT4 user, but have used cTrader in the past, the feature I liked most, is it displays your risk and profit in terms of %, so you can adjust your size based on those parameters and your SL and TP. I know exactly what you're speaking of, you simply plug in your SL and TP and adjust your size based on %, no need to ever look at units. No, MT4 does not display units, just size and symbol.
  • #4,842
  • Oct 26, 2021 7:43am Oct 26, 2021 7:43am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I am an MT4 user, but have used cTrader in the past, the feature I liked most, is it displays your risk and profit in terms of %, so you can adjust your size based on those parameters and your SL and TP. I know exactly what you're speaking of, you simply plug in your SL and TP and adjust your size based on %, no need to ever look at units. No, MT4 does not display units, just size and symbol.
That's exactly it. I can then move the SL and TP freely on the chart and see the exact amount of money to win or lose at those levels as I move it. So very easy to do without the pips and lots
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,843
  • Oct 26, 2021 8:35am Oct 26, 2021 8:35am
It's hard to beat the free entertainment that the MFF discord channel provides. Besides people asking the same question over and over and over again you get these little gold nuggets as well.
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Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,844
  • Oct 26, 2021 8:45am Oct 26, 2021 8:45am
Quoting Expo33
It's hard to beat the free entertainment that the MFF discord channel provides. Besides people asking the same question over and over and over again you get these little gold nuggets as well. {image}
Funny thing...I think I might believe him
  • #4,845
  • Oct 26, 2021 8:49am Oct 26, 2021 8:49am
Quoting Expo33
It's hard to beat the free entertainment that the MFF discord channel provides. Besides people asking the same question over and over and over again you get these little gold nuggets as well. {image}
Does it still count as violated if they were winning trades??
  • #4,846
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:02am Oct 26, 2021 9:02am
Quoting Expo33
It's hard to beat the free entertainment that the MFF discord channel provides. Besides people asking the same question over and over and over again you get these little gold nuggets as well. {image}

This is so common in all the prop firms that its sad. Someone messes up then starts to say "I didn't do it" a la bart simpson.

Since the FT people appeared on the scene at the other firms its just turned everything into a cesspool. I'd like to know who/how they were marketing to and why are those people mentally challenged.
  • #4,847
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:16am Oct 26, 2021 9:16am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Well, it is important to state that I don't trade forex. Pips were created to make forex price changes easier to read and operate with. Other assets (symbols, instruments or whatever you wish to call it) are easier to trade using points. It's much more convenient as 1 point means always the same thing for any asset whereas pips are not standardized outside the forex world. So for example when trading US30 one broker uses 1 point = 1 pip whereas another one defines as as 1 point = 10 pips. Metals are the same story, not even mentioning crypto....
With MetaTrader calculating Lot Size (also called Volume) is very difficult for instruments other than forex. It took me a long time to find the correct way, I searched everywhere and only got small hints in a couple of places.
Pips is just specific to Forex. Trying to transport pips to other instruments is unnatural (LOL).
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #4,848
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:37am Oct 26, 2021 9:37am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} This is so common in all the prop firms that its sad. Someone messes up then starts to say "I didn't do it" a la bart simpson. Since the FT people appeared on the scene at the other firms its just turned everything into a cesspool. I'd like to know who/how they were marketing to and why are those people mentally challenged.
They should just ram the discord/telegram groups, it doesnt take a mongo to workout that its going to be overpopulated by idiots.

If we need anouncements then an email, website update or youtube video will suffice. FTMO manage it this way, the rest of the firms think they are "a step ahead" all they have done is shot themselves in the dick
  • #4,849
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:42am Oct 26, 2021 9:42am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} They should just ram the discord/telegram groups, it doesnt take a mongo to workout that its going to be overpopulated by idiots. If we need anouncements then an email, website update or youtube video will suffice. FTMO manage it this way, the rest of the firms think they are "a step ahead" all they have done is shot themselves in the dick

The MFF discord has purpose... Just stay away from the general chat full of millenial mouth breathers.

If you think FTMO's support system is good, there is a bridge over the hudson i have for sale.
  • #4,850
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:44am Oct 26, 2021 9:44am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} They should just ram the discord/telegram groups, it doesnt take a mongo to workout that its going to be overpopulated by idiots. If we need anouncements then an email, website update or youtube video will suffice. FTMO manage it this way, the rest of the firms think they are "a step ahead" all they have done is shot themselves in the dick
Idiots are important for the prop firms. Their main income comes from them.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #4,851
  • Oct 26, 2021 9:52am Oct 26, 2021 9:52am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} The MFF discord has purpose... Just stay away from the general chat full of millenial mouth breathers. If you think FTMO's support system is good, there is a bridge over the hudson i have for sale.
Personally I never had an issue with FTMO support in the past, maybe things are different now.

I do know that MFF has been pretty slow when ive used customer support.... but then again, maybe thats changed aswell.
  • #4,852
  • Oct 26, 2021 10:04am Oct 26, 2021 10:04am
Doing MFF 50K challenge, struggling a bit but still have 20 days to go.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #4,853
  • Oct 26, 2021 10:13am Oct 26, 2021 10:13am
Quoting JotaP
Doing MFF 50K challenge, struggling a bit but still have 20 days to go.
Good luck mate, Im waiting in logins for a retake.
  • #4,854
  • Oct 26, 2021 10:24am Oct 26, 2021 10:24am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Personally I never had an issue with FTMO support in the past, maybe things are different now. I do know that MFF has been pretty slow when ive used customer support.... but then again, maybe thats changed aswell.
Neither have I so far (touch wood) but I have not yet reached the funded account stage. Had a few things to clarify with the support on-line and, besides it is off-line more often than not, I was lucky to get my questions answered during the chat. It's definitely not as convenient as having a Discord with instantaneous responses but how many times do you need to solve something so quickly? I used to trade with EnFoid which is well known for it's catastrophic customer support service and it actually never bothered me as I never really needed it. Maybe it's because both FTMO and EnFoid systems have been flawless
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,855
  • Oct 26, 2021 10:44am Oct 26, 2021 10:44am
Its interesting how the end user treats the prop firm like it is a broker re: support.

A traditional prop firm would tell you to go fuck yourself if you asked a question or said "OH NO I DIDNT MAKE THOSE TRADES" these retail shops are willing to listen to our BS and respond, even if late and most try to find a resolution to genuine problems.

FTMO has been the least likely to resolve a problem for me. Even FT tried initially but when I was actually winning genuinely they created further problems and threats. MFF started off terribly back in the telegram days, but got better and now their team are responsive so long as you are talking to the live chat and support@ email. All the other emails take time but as I have heard through the grape vine ALL of these companies get morons who lost money filling inboxes with payment requests and that type of crap.

At this point in time, I feel that there is a 50/50 split of blame for everything. 50% to the prop firms for enabling and 50% to the users who being borderline braindead (generalization don't get all uppity and insulted about it).
  • #4,856
  • Oct 26, 2021 11:10am Oct 26, 2021 11:10am
Quoting Takisd
Its interesting how the end user treats the prop firm like it is a broker re: support. A traditional prop firm would tell you to go fuck yourself if you asked a question or said "OH NO I DIDNT MAKE THOSE TRADES" these retail shops are willing to listen to our BS and respond, even if late and most try to find a resolution to genuine problems.
True. Once you sign the contract, there's not much left you could blame on the prop firm or would need from the support really as everything is the trader's fault by the definition and the firm can basically do anything. The sooner the traders accept that the better. There's no place for "my son pushed the button" type of excuses when you send a $1mil payment to a wrong bank account. Nobody cares in no business. So why this one should be any different.
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,857
  • Edited 11:59am Oct 26, 2021 11:47am | Edited 11:59am
Quoting Takisd
At this point in time, I feel that there is a 50/50 split of blame for everything. 50% to the prop firms for enabling and 50% to the users who being borderline braindead
-This is the price to be paid for attracting amateurs. Having a larger target market is more profitable for them.

Having attractive terms is not enough, because the moment that you start to raise the bar or barrier to entry, the quicker your potential client base starts to fall off of a cliff.

FTMO probably helped set the stage for that, and as much as I think 10 to 20 days of trading history is laughable when you consider the size of allocated funding, I am certainly not going to complain about it.
  • #4,858
  • Oct 26, 2021 1:01pm Oct 26, 2021 1:01pm
I would say that once a retail prop firm gathers enough users who are consistent, they could close the doors to new participants or seasonally open them. The reason that it hasn't been done yet is because a) the newer firms haven't reached a critical enough mass and b) i dont think that STP execution was a thing until recently so the potential has changed.
  • #4,859
  • Oct 26, 2021 1:05pm Oct 26, 2021 1:05pm
Quoting Expo33
It's hard to beat the free entertainment that the MFF discord channel provides. Besides people asking the same question over and over and over again you get these little gold nuggets as well. {image}
Lol Finally, a valid excuse for Fratricide.
A little amateurish leaving clues on the internet though.
  • #4,860
  • Oct 26, 2021 1:15pm Oct 26, 2021 1:15pm
Quoting JotaP
Doing MFF 50K challenge, struggling a bit but still have 20 days to go.
Up 4%+ with 20 days to go.
i would love to see what "not struggling" looks like for you Jota.

Was hoping to finish my TCF today and move on to something else, instead i gave back 1.5%.
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