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  • #4,801
  • Oct 24, 2021 1:40pm Oct 24, 2021 1:40pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Yes, but what does not seem reasonable is that the suggestion was made to allow risk-management EA's that could be submitted for review/approval by his team, as some other firms do
I did ask him about this, and he said that its hard to detect what type of EA is actually being used.

I did a small bit of research on this and came to the conclusion (so far) that whilst MT4 back end software can detect positions opened by EAs, the software cant (as far as I know) detect the specific EA being used. So from that conclusion Im assuming that MFF are simply trusting the Trade/Risk manager ea user not to use a bot.

But maybe there is some software out there that can detect the actual EA being used so that the trustworthy users dont get caught in the crossfire.
  • #4,802
  • Edited 2:06pm Oct 24, 2021 1:51pm | Edited 2:06pm
MFF does not need to worry about abusive EA's as much because the trading conditions won't allow for it.

Quoting Paulscaff1
I did ask him about this, and he said that its hard to detect what type of EA is actually being used.
-The solution is simple. Any firm that is operating on demo accounts, where trades are pushed to a live market, typically have such clauses that state that the firm needs to be able to duplicate the trades on a live account, under real, market conditions. Any traders that produce results that cannot be duplicated are dropped. This allows fair traders to operate without punishing everyone for a few bad apples.

I know very little about the technical side of this business, but I would be surprised if they could not incorporate some sort of execution delay on their demo accounts to match more realistic conditions, especially if they were operating their own servers. I even suspect that some firms/brokers have already figured out a way to do this, and I have even seen some demo accounts change this way. This could prevent a lot of the abuse that we see.
  • #4,803
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:06pm Oct 24, 2021 2:06pm
Quoting Nsak3y
MFF does not need to worry about abusive EA's as much because the trading conditions won't allow for it.
And yet I can't use my trendline EA which simply allows me to draw a line on a chart and execute trades at or near that line while automatically setting SL/TP trailing stops etc. Considering the London open is midnight my time and my sleep time is from 9pm-5am it is crucial to my system and completely hampers my ability to execute my system to its fullest potential.

It isn't a traditional bot and has nothing to do with taking advantage of the platform.

Thumbs down on this one MFF
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,804
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:18pm Oct 24, 2021 2:18pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Thumbs down on this one MFF
its TFT we were talking about EAs being banned. Your all good with MFF mate.
  • #4,805
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:21pm Oct 24, 2021 2:21pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} its TFT we were talking about EAs being banned. Your all good with MFF mate.
No, I'm not all good. MFF doesn't allow EAs without their approval which requires 3 months history before they will make a decision.

Thumbs down still in effect
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,806
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:29pm Oct 24, 2021 2:29pm
Quoting Expo33
No, I'm not all good.
-Would using a trade copier work in your case? Although, not sure how it would work if you are running it while sleeping and having to execute via VPN or similar.
  • #4,807
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:33pm Oct 24, 2021 2:33pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Would using a trade copier work in your case? Although, not sure how it would work if you are running it while sleeping and having to execute via VPN or similar.
I don't know that's too complicated for me.

Anytime someone posts about trade copiers, VPN's, tick charts, or "running the numbers" I just ignore that post and think about Jessica jiggling her jello melons on a jet
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,808
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:33pm Oct 24, 2021 2:33pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} No, I'm not all good. MFF doesn't allow EAs without their approval which requires 3 months history before they will make a decision. Thumbs down still in effect
Ahh shit, yeah sorry
  • #4,809
  • Oct 24, 2021 2:35pm Oct 24, 2021 2:35pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I don't know that's too complicated for me.
If youve got a simple EA that you know is profitable, then surely its worth learning. Not much to learn though tbh, LTC and Duplikium are pretty easy to use.
  • #4,810
  • Oct 24, 2021 3:28pm Oct 24, 2021 3:28pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} If youve got a simple EA that you know is profitable, then surely its worth learning. Not much to learn though tbh, LTC and Duplikium are pretty easy to use.
I'm sure it's simple but would it be considered circumventing MFF's no EA rule without their approval? I'm a man of great character. Koop and Jessica will vouch for me
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,811
  • Oct 24, 2021 3:46pm Oct 24, 2021 3:46pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} No, I'm not all good. MFF doesn't allow EAs without their approval which requires 3 months history before they will make a decision. Thumbs down still in effect

they ditched the approval thing for evaluations homie. Long time ago, just accelerated has some rules i think.
  • #4,812
  • Oct 24, 2021 3:48pm Oct 24, 2021 3:48pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I'm sure it's simple but would it be considered circumventing MFF's no EA rule without their approval? I'm a man of great character. Koop and Jessica will vouch for me
They wouldnt know your using it because you would be using a cloud copier. They would just show up on mff as manual trades
  • #4,813
  • Oct 24, 2021 5:23pm Oct 24, 2021 5:23pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} they ditched the approval thing for evaluations homie. Long time ago, just accelerated has some rules i think.
They require the source code. Mute point at the moment as once again their servers are frozen. Second rate MFF scrubs
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Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,814
  • Oct 24, 2021 5:25pm Oct 24, 2021 5:25pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} They wouldnt know your using it because you would be using a cloud copier. They would just show up on mff as manual trades
Yea, but I WOULD KNOW that I'm circumventing their rules.

And as I said, other than the two bankruptcies, two divorces, and three arrests, I'm a man of impeccable character!
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,815
  • Oct 24, 2021 6:11pm Oct 24, 2021 6:11pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} They require the source code. Mute point at the moment as once again their servers are frozen. Second rate MFF scrubs {image}
This is old and not relevant anymore. I asked them about this same thing before signing up and Connor said its all good don't worry it not required anymore.

I'm funded with MFF and 50% of my trading is with EA's.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #4,816
  • Edited 6:28pm Oct 24, 2021 6:14pm | Edited 6:28pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} This is old and not relevant anymore. I asked them about this same thing before signing up and Connor said its all good don't worry it not required anymore. I'm funded with MFF and 50% of my trading is with EA's.
Hmmmm.......so apparently they can't be bothered to update their website? And if they wish they can just pull a rabbit out of a hat at any time and say, "see, it says right here in the rules". Or I can trust some kid named Connor in discord?

I chatted with someone on their website chat a couple of weeks ago and they said I had to submit my EA.

A few loose ends at MFF. Not impressed.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,817
  • Oct 24, 2021 6:16pm Oct 24, 2021 6:16pm
BTCUSD, US30 are moving and none of forex pairs seem to be moving in MFF mt4 platform.

Is it like this for others too ?
Intraday only.
  • #4,818
  • Oct 24, 2021 6:44pm Oct 24, 2021 6:44pm
Quoting navk
BTCUSD, US30 are moving and none of forex pairs seem to be moving in MFF mt4 platform. Is it like this for others too ?
I just got back. MFF GG Demo2 server EurUsd not moving at all, still 1.1644 while MFF TGG live2 is correct, EurUsd at 1.1638 .
This is third time happened in DEMO server this month,, I am not happy with this, especially I have three accounts running and maximum out for MFF
  • #4,819
  • Oct 24, 2021 6:54pm Oct 24, 2021 6:54pm
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I just got back. MFF GG Demo2 server EurUsd not moving at all, still 1.1644 while MFF TGG live2 is correct, EurUsd at 1.1638 . This is third time happened in DEMO server this month,, I am not happy with this, especially I have three accounts running and maximum out for MFF
In Discord, there is discussion about it.

Demo servers down.
Intraday only.
  • #4,820
  • Oct 24, 2021 8:21pm Oct 24, 2021 8:21pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Hmmmm.......so apparently they can't be bothered to update their website? And if they wish they can just pull a rabbit out of a hat at any time and say, "see, it says right here in the rules". Or I can trust some kid named Connor in discord? I chatted with someone on their website chat a couple of weeks ago and they said I had to submit my EA. A few loose ends at MFF. Not impressed.
That is one thing that bugs me about MFF is that their website information is woefully outdated. Have to look at the FAQ sections on the discord server for updated information.

Josh had mentioned that every time they update the website, it breaks their seo for some odd reason.
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