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mallee
May 5, 2021 9:48pm
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Winnie the Poo is really pissed off with us Aussies. Go Fxxx yourself Xi.
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Trader#2A8E
May 5, 2021 9:52pm
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Mallee, as a fellow Aussie I totally agree with you. In the long run we are far better off without China. We need to re-establish a solid tech and manufacturing base in Australia and look to other markets for our exports. Sadly Xi and the CCP are doing everything they can to turn the West against China. We have to stand up to the bullies.
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Bones
May 7, 2021 5:10pm
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Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} The issue is not about admiring or approving or sympathizing.. still less about touting Drama Queen phrases like "Sell your soul" when it comes to China. Its about recognizing REALITY. Above all all professional Traders should understand that. Huff and Puff.. as you or I will, we can't change the world or the tide of history. So IMHO its a little immature and patronizing to frame anyone here who recognizes the reality of where the world is going as a "commie" and "CCP sympathizer" or being something less than...
Ross
Ok we can talk reality, this isn't an economic game like you paint ,but a very serious situation .
Australia isn't alone in its concerns on what we all witness, actually I thought I even saw the EU getting excited not ratifying their deal.

Not to mention the CCP inflecting the virus on the world rather than shutting it down,
all the while building hospitals from the ground with bars in the windows, in preparation. Quite frankly my description is right while your downplay is wrong.

The funny thing is you cry about level playing field UK-EU but accept a communist regime no questions asked pretty much .I don't accept distance is any reason to do so, it's basically turning a blind eye on your part as this whole model is great in your big numbers eyes, forget any suffering to get there.
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aquavox
May 6, 2021 4:04am
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As i said some months ago on this forum , the western world needs to source its cheap sweatshop goods it likes to consume from countries like , Vietnam , India, Korea, the minor Asian states, South America and wean itself off the addictive dysfunctional Sino tit.
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gat
May 6, 2021 11:13am
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It's not over until we all give up barkie but they are winning. That trade pact is like the UN having Iran on the Human Rights Commission or Turkey in NATO. There are no standards for admittance to so many things. Fools think allowing the worst in will bribe them into doing better. China has accumulated a great deal of power other nations and they are not stopping. They have bought influence in Africa. Their friends in the US and Canada are doing the yeoman's work respectively for them.

As Bones points out the loonie left admire China. Specifically their control over their people. And obviously they do not care about the US being a safe place allowing cities to burn dividing people.
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Bones
May 6, 2021 10:34am
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The loonie left support & admire china...all the while they don't adhere to any rules they know or want in their own safe countries where rights exist.
Sell your soul to the devil is the theme.
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Exodus
May 10, 2021 3:10am
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Nobody mentioned the Chinese incursions into other States' territories ....

The Philippines and Vietnam, and Australia, are becoming alarmed at how China is testing the resolve of various countries to defend their own borders.

India ... we must watch ... either this is a propagandist move to disguise the truth from its population or India is already a puppet. Recent contention in the north-east with China has been papered-over. That would not happen if it was Pakistan and the Kashmir.
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Mingary
May 7, 2021 1:00am — Edited
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The tide has changed. China's (the chinese government not her people) "marketing sails' are now getting favorable winds. Mostly thanks to sniffy joe and his gang and the fake news industry.
Propaganda says: "Australia bad" now be on the look out for negative news about Australia. It just happened to India.
Play ball with China or else ...
The Marxist Apologists are CCP Cry-Babies for a reason it is in their "DNA" to support totalitarian oppressive regimes with all the best intentions and sensible rationalizations
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trumps
May 6, 2021 3:17am
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Eh?
Who started this spat?

China didn't like the idea of a corona virus investigation so it initiated economic trade measures against Australia.

China still thinks it lives in the land of "China gets what China wants".
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harcos
May 6, 2021 9:17am
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[quote=umbrella man;13525696]Great for Australia, hope Europe look at this and learn their lesson. At the end of the day China’s regime is a dictatorship and its economy will collapse sooner or later with an inevitable regime change.[/quote
Not saying Chinas government is OK but why is the regime change inevitable and why do you think it will collapse? I mean all great nations fail at some time or another but when and why do you think this will happen to China? Personally I think they get a hell of a lot more powerful before there is any major shift.
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gat
May 8, 2021 7:59am
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It's not fait accompli yet. Still time to turn back the surge of despotism. If enough sleep through the "woke" fringe coup then welcome to the new slavery to state.
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jmn5611
May 8, 2021 12:09am
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Quoting NotBoris
{quote} So you would classed all people who do not agree with your views and support for populist leaders such as your current scott, as softies and Marxist. Just goes to show what populism leadership support had bled individual brains in the size of of a dried peanut - a tunnelled vision. Same to that for your likeable buddies on FF who holds the same views as yours. Just another day, looking forward to the day of riddance of populist leaders - they come and go, you know....ROFL Have a good weekend!
Leave them alone Boris. They have already conceded defeat. The left is all powerful by their own admission. The left controls the media, government, and education. That means they control the youth, which means they control the future. Populists are simply people who cannot accept political death, and are clinging to their last political breath. Just stand back, they will be a curious discussion in the history books written by the victors soon enough.
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RossEdwards
May 6, 2021 9:33am
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Quoting LloydOz
Always remember one salient feature in this - China needs Australia much more than Australia needs China. China is playing a game of cards, and is bluffing. Poorly. For all the world to see and learn. Australia is playing chess.


Sorry mate but IMHO, thats truly the craziest analysis I have ever heard.
I can't believe someone could actually believe that.

Quoting trumps
Eh? Who started this spat? China didn't like the idea of a corona virus investigation so it initiated economic trade measures against Australia. China still thinks it lives in the land of "China gets what China wants".
IMHO these problems that Australia are having with China.. are 100% down to really bad political/diplomatic management of Sino-Australian relations. Australia does NOT want to get involved in a pissing contest with China. O course this comment may be interpreted as politic comment. Its Not I know zero about Aussie politics.. but whoever is running the show.. creating difficulties that impact on Australian industry Job and wages has to be just daft.
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RossEdwards
May 6, 2021 2:43pm
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Quoting Bones
The loonie left support & admire china...all the while they don't adhere to any rules they know or want in their own safe countries where rights exist. Sell your soul to the devil is the theme.
The issue is not about admiring or approving or sympathizing.. still less about touting Drama Queen phrases like "Sell your soul" when it comes to China.
Its about recognizing REALITY. Above all all professional Traders should understand that.
Huff and Puff.. as you or I will, we can't change the world or the tide of history.
So IMHO its a little immature and patronizing to frame anyone here who recognizes the reality of where the world is going as a "commie" and "CCP sympathizer" or being something less than patriotic (??)
With respect.. thats just puerile.

Quoting dustbin
{quote} thank you for the entertainment
Ha Ha Ha/Ho Ho Ho.. Big laugh from the upper deck of the Titanic.
I sympathize. But sadly in the REAL WORLD.. Barkie is unfortunately right.

Quoting LloydOz
{quote} It is abundantly clear that the popular narrative from softies and Marxist apologists is that it it somehow stupid to sell your sovereign values and freedoms and liberties for ephemeral materialism that dealing with a snake may offer. Australia continues to deal with the snake on many levels, but increasingly with rules that little CCP cry-babies in the lolly aisle don't like much.
Softies? Marxist Apologists ? CCP Cry-Babies?
Have you any idea how ridiculous and offensive your "Smear" characterizations are? People whose comments YOU find offensive are realists. HTF can you address or manage a problem until you acknowledge and accept it as a problem?
Ad hominem catchcalls. are childish. Are these threads to be reduced to becoming the stamping ground of a wannabe version of reality..and a platform forthise who only see what fits with their world view?
I hope not.
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umbrella man
May 5, 2021 11:41pm
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Great for Australia, hope Europe look at this and learn their lesson. At the end of the day China’s regime is a dictatorship and its economy will collapse sooner or later with an inevitable regime change.
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barkie
May 6, 2021 8:34am
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Quoting gat
{quote} China does because it plays hardball and a smart game of chess. If their people suffer so what. Australia should be making trade pacts with nearby small nations and India and the US. A long term concerted avoidance of China is needed by many nations, including limits on what they buy - land, businesses - in other nations.
I have news for you. A few months ago China joined the RCEP, the largest free trade zone ever seen and in a booming region, not a single one of these countries in it will try to avoid or isolate China. In fact ALL these countries would sell their mothers in order to INCREASE trade with China. The mistake you people make is that you apparently think "the West" matters, in reality it's a sideshow, a rapidly shrinking part of the world.

China won, it's over.
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dustbin
May 6, 2021 1:33pm
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Quoting barkie
{quote} I have news for you. A few months ago China joined the RCEP, the largest free trade zone ever seen and in a booming region, not a single one of these countries in it will try to avoid or isolate China. In fact ALL these countries would sell their mothers in order to INCREASE trade with China. The mistake you people make is that you apparently think "the West" matters, in reality it's a sideshow, a rapidly shrinking part of the world. China won, it's over.
thank you for the entertainment
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gat
May 6, 2021 8:28am
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Quoting trumps
Eh? Who started this spat? China didn't like the idea of a corona virus investigation so it initiated economic trade measures against Australia. China still thinks it lives in the land of "China gets what China wants".
China does because it plays hardball and a smart game of chess. If their people suffer so what. Australia should be making trade pacts with nearby small nations and India and the US. A long term concerted avoidance of China is needed by many nations, including limits on what they buy - land, businesses - in other nations.
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LloydOz
May 6, 2021 6:25am
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Always remember one salient feature in this - China needs Australia much more than Australia needs China.

China is playing a game of cards, and is bluffing. Poorly. For all the world to see and learn.

Australia is playing chess.
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LloydOz
May 6, 2021 11:18am — Edited
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Quoting Bones
The loonie left support & admire china...all the while they don't adhere to any rules they know or want in their own safe countries where rights exist. Sell your soul to the devil is the theme.
It is abundantly clear that the popular narrative from softies and Marxist apologists is that it it somehow stupid to sell your sovereign values and freedoms and liberties for ephemeral materialism that dealing with a snake may offer.

Australia continues to deal with the snake on many levels, but increasingly with rules that little CCP cry-babies in the lolly aisle don't like much.
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Exodus
Jun 27, 2021 6:27am
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Quoting aquavox
…”Most of China’s trade routes involve crossing the Pacific Ocean, which in the case of any escalation of conflict with the USA would make them vulnerable. ...
China is securing access to the important bits of ocean by building islands by means of which they secure ownership of the shipping lanes. Soon they will own every bit of water up to the Australian territorial waters, and therefore have secure access for iron ore and sheep.
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mallee
May 8, 2021 4:40am
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Speak for yourself jmn. The West has woken up. The planning and rearming is underway. China has no allies. It bullies its neighbors. If Vietnam and India ally with the West and Japan the cost to China of military action will be horrific.
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aquavox
May 11, 2021 6:49pm
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a couple of things :
i heard yesterday that iron ore is up around $200-250 /mt and that China is buying as much as Australia can produce - so much for the media sabre rattling? - just china continuing its stockpiling policy
and...
So is this the real reason why the Chinese are killing off the Uyghurs ?
…”Most of China’s trade routes involve crossing the Pacific Ocean, which in the case of any escalation of conflict with the USA would make them vulnerable. So the Russian land route would appear to be the best bet.
In this situation, Beijing’s need for a secure and reliable supply line can be best met by two overland routes, through Russia and Central Asia. The latter route, however, enters China through the troubled Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, where the local population could cut it off, were relations with the West to deteriorate. So the Russian route would appear to be the best bet.
courtesy
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/fable-of-eagle-dragon-and-bear/
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NotBoris
May 6, 2021 9:16am
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Quoting LloydOz
Always remember one salient feature in this - China needs Australia much more than Australia needs China. China is playing a game of cards, and is bluffing. Poorly. For all the world to see and learn. Australia is playing chess.
Unfortunately Australia did not invented chess.....
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Schweet
May 6, 2021 1:11am
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Sadly its Australia that is feeling the pinch now but it shows the world, what and who to be aware of.
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harcos
May 7, 2021 7:40am
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Quoting Mingary
The tide has changed. China's (the chinese government not her people) "marketing sails' are now getting favorable winds. Mostly thanks to sniffy joe and his gang and the fake news industry. Propaganda says: "Australia bad" now be on the look out for negative news about Australia. It just happened to India. Play ball with China or else ... The Marxist Apologists are CCP Cry-Babies for a reason it is in their "DNA" to support totalitarian oppressive regimes with all the best intentions and sensible rationalizations
The only fake news industry are dingbats who cry foul whenever anything disagrees with them. May I remind you that for the first 3 years of the previous administration ( not going to count the pandemic year) China's economy grew an average 6.6% per year while the US grew 2.4% per year. (source macrotrends.net) Seems the wind was already in their sails. If you think Chinas growth is being promoted by the current admin but not by the redneck party you are delusional. Read your keyboard son. Most if not all of the parts were likely made in China and have been for decades now. That is the wind in their sails . Sure China has a nasty government but the rest of the world still deals with them so what are you gonna do? Punitive tariffs are the tantrum of a spoiled child and they never did a thing to curb Chinese growth and did more harm than good to the western economy so if you have a solution then lets hear it. It's easy to talk tough and complain about things that are wrong but to have a realistic solution isn't so easy, everybody has to play ball.
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Mingary
May 12, 2021 6:19am
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Looks like the "thoughtcrime"patrol is making its rounds again ..
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foto
May 6, 2021 5:24am
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West needs rebuilding of infrastructure. Australia will have ready market for its goods.
Ships can carry freight to West as well as Asia. Just a few more days of Transit via Oceans.

Good for India and many other countries who are unable to compete with China State supported industry.
Big world it is, certainly much Bigger then China.

Just means low rates will continue for somewhat longer beyond Covid recovery. CB's now have another reason to keep it that way as China finds itself getting isolated.
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Bicarus
May 5, 2021 10:44pm
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Quoting mallee
Winnie the Poo is really pissed off with us Aussies. Go Fxxx yourself Xi.
Fact of the matter is that ever since Turnbull, Australia willingly got in bed with the Devil. that's how Australia came out unscathed from the 08 crisis. getting angry at chyna is akin to falling in love with a one night stand and she not loving you back
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Mingary
May 11, 2021 11:46pm
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Quoting aquavox
a couple of things : i heard yesterday that iron ore is up around $200-250 /mt and that China is buying as much as Australia can produce - so much for the media sabre rattling? - just china continuing its stockpiling policy and... So is this the real reason why the Chinese are killing off the Uyghurs ? …”Most of China’s trade routes involve crossing the Pacific Ocean, which in the case of any escalation of conflict with the USA would make them vulnerable. So the Russian land route would appear to be the best bet. In this situation, Beijing’s need...
China is re-opening the Silk Road. It's an enormous, ambitious, strategic and very expensive project.
The Uyghurs are in the way.
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barkie
May 6, 2021 6:41am — Edited
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Quoting LloydOz
Always remember one salient feature in this - China needs Australia much more than Australia needs China.
HAAAAAAA hahahahahahahaha
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NotBoris
May 6, 2021 12:26am
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Why are the friendly common sense Aussie that I once knew?

Now calling for patriotism while conveniently forgetting they voted in a populist, rings a bell? Remember that???? What did and has that populist done so far? Holiday while the county was on fire, jumping on every bandwagon that donald trump was on.

Now, the possible populist loner left on the stage, has to retort to a crying baby to blame everyone else apart from his poor management.

Doh....the mentality of some here is incredible!!
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NotBoris
May 7, 2021 4:53am
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Quoting LloydOz
{quote} It is abundantly clear that the popular narrative from softies and Marxist apologists is that it it somehow stupid to sell your sovereign values and freedoms and liberties for ephemeral materialism that dealing with a snake may offer. Australia continues to deal with the snake on many levels, but increasingly with rules that little CCP cry-babies in the lolly aisle don't like much.
So you would classed all people who do not agree with your views and support for populist leaders such as your current scott, as softies and Marxist. Just goes to show what populism leadership support had bled individual brains in the size of of a dried peanut - a tunnelled vision.

Same to that for your likeable buddies on FF who holds the same views as yours.

Just another day, looking forward to the day of riddance of populist leaders - they come and go, you know....ROFL

Have a good weekend!
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Sean1224
May 5, 2021 10:02pm
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Now I'm wondering whether they'll remove all the kangaroos from their zoos....
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k3nshinz3139
May 5, 2021 10:01pm
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but they still love the Iron Ore ? 0.77 tank
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Brle110
May 6, 2021 1:56am
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And all of us whant smartphone which are produce in China hahahahah what a srcasam
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grandia
May 6, 2021 12:42am
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AUD is still going strong though (at least for now)
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Salvo
May 5, 2021 9:44pm
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What???
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MahdiKhalilN
May 6, 2021 5:21am
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Is there any news from the Australian authorities? Didn't they say anything?
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Trader#5090
May 5, 2021 9:53pm
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AUD go down
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Trader#1903
May 5, 2021 9:56pm
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pound wil be next
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Trader#5090
May 5, 2021 10:12pm
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Coal and Iron from Aussie suspend too??? How come China fill the demands? Hope Xi will not regret this
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