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  • #1
  • First Post: Mar 20, 2020 7:25am Mar 20, 2020 7:25am
so now is the time to buy or maybe a month or two more so might jump back into stocks.. US stocks? which ones though.. any going to the moon?

why are influencers so in love with tesla? my guess is they don't 'advertise' they just pay for mentions and work in ways like the cult of Apple. You don't like Telsla? well then we can not be friends!
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  • #2
  • Mar 20, 2020 1:07pm Mar 20, 2020 1:07pm
Quoting JackJones
so now is the time to buy or maybe a month or two more so might jump back into stocks.. US stocks? which ones though.. any going to the moon? why are influencers so in love with tesla? my guess is they don't 'advertise' they just pay for mentions and work in ways like the cult of Apple. You don't like Telsla? well then we can not be friends!
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hey jack.... i'm bidding low on quite a few now..... along with leaps.....

as examples, have orders in on 5 of the oil services etf's..... those have been crushed.... very likely their dividends will be cut, but should be reinstated in the future.... that dividend cut should push the price lower which should be a windfall for a buyer.....

at some point, with low enough initial entry, the dividends alone will double your money 4 times a year.....

i started pulling out forex earnings out this week.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #3
  • Mar 20, 2020 7:46pm Mar 20, 2020 7:46pm
I don't buy stocks unless it's something that has liquid options, so I can at least sell covered calls while I'm waiting for the share price to explode.

All over the oil sector there are individual names that have been crushed in the last year, and as oil falls further, and stays low, many of those companies will fail. So picking winners is dicey, and you can spread your risk by picking thru the ETF's. XLE is one but I use USO since it's cheap enough for me to buy good multiples of 100, so I can trade options against the holdings.
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  • #4
  • Mar 20, 2020 7:57pm Mar 20, 2020 7:57pm
I think the stock market is going to be dead for quite some time.

But people are living like its 2008 and there was something to throw out there to get the world liquid again. I don't think the bullets exist to get things going again and for sure not to the highs we have seen recently.

10 trillion just went poof. Where is the replacement for that coming from? The only reason the markets got to those highs was because people had the money to toss in to create the high valuations. And valuations were high. https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe

Do we end up at the mean for the SP 500 PE? Or do we overshoot and go lower?

And no matter what. No one and I mean no one right now knows when this will end in the short term.

So I think there are absolutely no stocks to buy. But great volatility in the currencies to profit from.
  • #5
  • Mar 20, 2020 8:50pm Mar 20, 2020 8:50pm
It's tempting to grab some of the stocks that have been (and will be) hurt the most in this extreme demand shock - airlines, travel related, hospitality etc is one general sector that is bleeding bad.

AAL looks like it will trade under $10 soon but it was trading at $2.50-$5 from 2008-2011, so it could easily be cut in half again from here. The cheaper airline stocks are not immune from getting killed off, so choose wisely.
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  • #6
  • Mar 20, 2020 9:02pm Mar 20, 2020 9:02pm
Quoting enarco
And no matter what. No one and I mean no one right now knows when this will end in the short term. So I think there are absolutely no stocks to buy.
No one ever knows with absolute certainty what the future holds. A speculator looks at what has happened in past, similar situations, thinks about what could happen, and trades accordingly. The stock market will still exist after the virus is gone and so will greedy traders hungry for yield. The markets will be a leading indicator for the real economy and will rise while unemployment and gdp numbers are still ghastly.
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  • #7
  • Mar 20, 2020 9:52pm Mar 20, 2020 9:52pm
I have third party advisors about how to diversify in stock holdings. Yeah, I ignore all of that. 70% of my portfolio dealings with stock is all in TSLA. It literally can’t go tits up. I would borrow, friends, family, bank money and put it down on TSLA. If there was an easy path to being rich, it’s to be bullish on Tesla. I think their market cap is at 90 bil as an auto manufacture. But when the space stuff starts reeling in. I can see it easily go past apple. Easy. Book mark this. Musk is always proactive in solving problems, and he has a higher vision to lead the way to the purest form of profit. If I blew up all of my assets and cash holdings. And I had to start from scratch. I would take a shark loan out to buy TSLA. S&P500 doesn’t even give out TSLA yield.
  • #8
  • Mar 20, 2020 10:10pm Mar 20, 2020 10:10pm
the oil field has my interest at this point.....

all it would take is a little progress on whatever started the price war.....

i'll start next week on halliburton ....... 1000 shares ties roughly the same capital as 2 standard lots.... i'm aiming at 4$.... easy to see it at 3..... hard to see it at 1.....

maybe schlumberger later....... not sure but maybe.....

october 1st will be here before we know it.....h
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https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=hal

https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SLB
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #9
  • Mar 20, 2020 10:29pm Mar 20, 2020 10:29pm
Quoting hayseed
the oil field has my interest at this point..... all it would take is a little progress on whatever started the price war..... i'll start next week on halliburton ....... 1000 shares ties roughly the same capital as 2 standard lots.... i'm aiming at 4$.... easy to see it at 3..... hard to see it at 1..... maybe schlumberger later....... not sure but maybe..... october 1st will be here before we know it.....h //------ https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=hal https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SLB
both those are good picks. Maybe less so but one I trade often is PBR - de facto state run Brazil oil. dipped under $5 now might go as low as $3 soon if there is no relief.
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  • #10
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:06am Mar 21, 2020 7:06am
oil eh, interesting .. im think 60% blue chip income stocks, a couple of discounted companies with p/e values and then a maybe some spec options.

will average in over 6 months

Quoting Swisse
I have third party advisors about how to diversify in stock holdings. Yeah, I ignore all of that. 70% of my portfolio dealings with stock is all in TSLA. It literally can’t go tits up. I would borrow, friends, family, bank money and put it down on TSLA. If there was an easy path to being rich, it’s to be bullish on Tesla. I think their market cap is at 90 bil as an auto manufacture. But when the space stuff starts reeling in. I can see it easily go past apple. Easy. Book mark this. Musk is always proactive in solving problems, and he has a higher...
this is gold. ( tesla) made my week
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  • #11
  • Mar 21, 2020 11:42am Mar 21, 2020 11:42am
Quoting The Fool
Maybe less so but one I trade often is PBR - de facto state run Brazil oil. dipped under $5 now might go as low as $3 soon if there is no relief.
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i have never been brave enough to buy specific foreign stocks.....

but speaking of foreign, one thing i have never lost a single penny on was overseas etf's ..... on several i have tripled my money within a year.....

for me, it's too early yet but i'll be biddin on low on several before long..... it will be a one time purchase per etf at a single price.....

local stocks like hal and the oil patch etf's, i'll be buying on the $ down...... h
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  • #12
  • Mar 23, 2020 5:00am Mar 23, 2020 5:00am
both ewa and ewc...... buyer at 10..... have a ways to go.....

ewa should return better......h
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  • #13
  • Mar 23, 2020 5:24am Mar 23, 2020 5:24am
ews and ewi...... buyer at 7.5 and 10......h
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  • #14
  • Mar 23, 2020 12:40pm Mar 23, 2020 12:40pm
6 million polish people died in ww2..... last time i checked poland was still on the map......

epol.....buyer at 9.....

don't sell sell people short.....h
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  • #15
  • Mar 23, 2020 12:41pm Mar 23, 2020 12:41pm
there are stocks and stocks... I focus on blue chip to avoid low liquidity / wide spreads.


I trade long term and i don't care about short term fluctations. momentum must be on my side.

But the temptation to buy the dips sometiems is too high.. so I bought silver yesterday, NOT physical but ETF, precisely wisdomtree.
  • #16
  • Mar 23, 2020 2:32pm Mar 23, 2020 2:32pm
Quoting HeyYou
I focus on blue chip to avoid low liquidity / wide spreads. .
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that's a good plan..... quite the opposite of what i do but yours is still an excellent plan.....

i buy at the bid or below...... and sell at the ask or above..... so for me spreads don't exist.....

low liquidity is very much a positive for me.....

high liquidity is very much a negative for me....

todays 0 commissions opens more doors than can be counted...... h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #17
  • Mar 23, 2020 2:43pm Mar 23, 2020 2:43pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- that's a good plan..... quite the opposite of what i do but yours is still an excellent plan..... i buy at the bid or below...... and sell at the ask or above..... so for me spreads don't exist..... low liquidity is very much a positive for me..... high liquidity is very much a negative for me.... todays 0 commissions opens more doors than can be counted...... h
wow, that sounds like some stat arb, high frequency, complex stochastic models mean reversion stuff.. well, not everyone has the technology / knowledge to do that. nobody actually...

just kidding mate ;P
  • #18
  • Edited 6:52am Mar 25, 2020 4:02am | Edited 6:52am
Quoting dkrock
On the other hand, if you want to short, and your broker allows it, airlines, hospitals, movie productions, sports
airlines eh/

Warren Buffett (Trades, Portfolio) recently disclosed that Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) (NYSE:BRK.B) has invested an additional $45.3 million in Delta Air Lines Inc. (NYSEAL).

down 50% in 3 weeks.. too early Buffy too early!.. maybe betting on a govt bailout??

a company servicing 14 billion in debt, wow
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  • #19
  • Mar 25, 2020 6:11am Mar 25, 2020 6:11am
Seems the markets globally are in green for the last couple of days.

What do you guys reckon? sign of actual recovery or just a Dead cat bounce?
  • #20
  • Mar 25, 2020 6:36am Mar 25, 2020 6:36am
Quoting Jlrobert
Seems the markets globally are in green for the last couple of days. What do you guys reckon? sign of actual recovery or just a Dead cat bounce?
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hey j.... just the the occasional sun poking thru on a cloudy day.... the true thunder has yet to be upon us.....

bid low.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
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