Nat Gas market is just boring. Daily range is decreased significantly as well. The market hardly moves until regular market open. At this time of the year, people are not very interested in nat gas trading...... https://youtu.be/yBtONa6T39U
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{quote} Strong resistance ahead......... {image}
Watch crude oil price carefully.......
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{quote} I agree 100% with you. The ATR of Natural Gas has an average of 8.9 ticks for the last 10 days, 12.1 for the last 100 days and only 9.2 for the last 1,000 days. These ATR statistics indicate that trading Natural Gas is not only boring at this time of the year but is always boring
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{quote} {image} Watch crude oil price carefully.......
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https://www.fxstreet.com/news/natura...y-202103180638
Perhaps not a good timing to open new sell positions. Open interest is decreasing and some technical pull-back is expected due to oversold condition.........
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The latest WCU. Commodity currencies are heading into final peak. Wait until you don't see much commodity headline news from Bloomberg or CNBC before you start shorting them. {image}
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{quote} No matter what you say, I love /NG. I don't need to trade each and everyday. When price is condensed, it's sure ready to explode in either side like today. To measure this I use 200 EMA bollinger bands. IMHO, /NG's price action is rather clear and honest compared to forex or stock indices which have full of noise and manipulations.
1. It's much less sensitive to economic headline news such as NFP, Fed speech, Fed rates, employment data, ... etc. Weekly storage report is virtually the only headline news event which can move the market big.
2. Trading is centralized in NYMEX exchange. Unlike Forex or other OTC products, due to the regulations, market participants are now mostly trading nat gas with NYMEX futures market. As a result, it has higher transparency.
3. /NG is a real market with real supply and demand. For details read this: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post12608271
4. Less screen time. It usually moves from about an hour before regular market session (9:30 ET). I only need to focus on about 4-5 hours maximum. Occasionally, there are times when it can move big during European session but it's rare. This is a pattern and you know when this pattern changes.
5. It has decent liquidity and volatility. Spread is almost always 1 tick (or pip in forex term) and its ADR exceeds most forex major/minor pairs. Forex's volatility is up and down on yearly basis. It's no coincidence that Forex breakout traders usually trade high volatile minor pairs such as GBPAUD, EURNZD, EURAUD, GBPJPY, ...etc. Any serious traders ever trade such garbage products with tiny volumes?
6. Technicals works nice on /NG. Especially, it respects 50 & 200 EMA religiously. Actually, most conventional technical indicators are designed for commodity markets. Also, price action is more clear and honest in my opinion.
7. Strong seasonality. Nat gas is usually used in Winter heating demand and Summer electricity generation demand. Fundamentals is relatively simpler and easier to understand.
I don't like /NG because:
1. No mini or micro lot. The minimum size of /NG is one contract (1 lot in forex term). /QG is 1/4 sized of /NG but its minimum tick size is 0.005 (instead of 0.001 in /NG). You need more capital to trade as a result compared to forex, especially when you're a swing trader. By the way, when you trade 0.01 or 0.1 lot in forex, your counter party is your broker. ECN works only when you trade normal 1 lot at minimum.
2. One tick spread. At least nominal spread is bigger than major forex pairs which are usually below 0.5 pips. However, it's acceptable and slippage is more important than spread. /NG's spread and slippage is often better than /NQ (Nasdaq futures).
3. Charting is somewhat tricky. Due to monthly roll-over, continuous chart often looks inconsistent platform by platform especially on Daily or Weekly timeframes. It makes gauging historical support/resistance properly difficult.
4. Platform/data is not free. CME data is not free and can be expensive. I usually run +8 MT4 applications at the same time. This is not doable to average futures traders because of cost.
I glad I found /NG (thanks to Ricky) and hope this market continues to prosper in the future. Although I mostly trade /NG spread these days, I started enjoying /NG day trading as well.
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{quote} I like /NG (NYMEX Futures. I don't recommend trading CFD) because: 1. It's much less sensitive to economic headline news such as NFP, Fed speech, Fed rates, employment data, ... etc. Weekly storage report is virtually the only headline news event which can move the market big. 2. Trading is centralized in NYMEX exchange. Unlike Forex or other OTC products, due to the regulations, market participants are now mostly trading nat gas with NYMEX futures market. As a result, it has higher transparency. 3. /NG is a real market with real supply...
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{quote} My broker has a 0.4 to 0.5 ticks for NG so this is acceptable. If your spread is 1 tick it's way too high since the 10-day ATR is only 8.5 at the moment. On the other hand his swap rates are atrocious as you can see on the first chart which is my source chart for Renko. This chart is ideal to identify when to enter the market since I can see exactly where the price is as compared to the Renko brick. On that chart each aqua/red line represents 1 minute. The second chart represents last week and as you can see the difference between high and...
I prefer ADR to gauge daily volatility. As CFD terms are different broker by broker, it's confusing sometimes. The following is from my forex broker IC Markets. The first one is Nat Gas, and the second one for GBPNZD: (Theses numbers may different broker by broker because brokers have different calculation methods and different server time. It looks my broker calculate ADR of nat gas about 10 times bigger than forex.)
The following is last Friday's ADR of each pairs: (source: myfxbook.com)
EURUSD (pip value = $10) had about $820 move while /NG had $1000 move (tick/pip value = $10) and GBPNZD had $1380 move (pip value = $6.62).
Last Friday, /NG moved about $1000 range. Recent /NG daily high/low move is about $1000. (One tick spread is $10). It's generally low at this time of the year due to seasonality. During Summer or Winder time however, it's generally $1200 - $1500 range. Although GBPNZD has nominal higher ADR, considering U.S. dollar nominated pip value of GBPNZD (which is currently $6.6) and its higher spread/slippage, I'd rather prefer /NG. Lastly, as you may know, high ADR pairs are notorious for their wild price actions with sudden spikes all around.
As you can see below, high ADR pairs have tiny volumes:
(The following is from myfxbook.com. It's from their users data.)
Also, /NG doesn't charge ridiculous daily swap. In addition, many discount futures brokers provide reduced margin, so if you're a scalper, you don't need big account. The following is from my futures broker AMP Futures:
Considering all of these, to be honest, I have no idea why you prefer CFD to Futures at least in terms of nat gas trading.....
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{quote} I was also always curious why he mostly focuses on UGAZ or DGAZ..... Here he answers. https://youtu.be/KYMu4aRRIlw
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{quote} {quote} https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics...rs-lose-money/ Scientist Discovered Why Most Traders Lose Money – 24 Surprising Statistics “95% of all traders fail” is the most commonly used trading related statistic around the internet. But no research paper exists that proves this number right. Research even suggests that the actual figure is much, much higher. In the following article we’ll show you 24 very surprising statistics economic scientists discovered by analyzing actual broker data and the performance of...
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{quote} I think I've found cost-effective alternative to Advantage Futures. Sierra Futures (aka Stage5 Trading) can clear /HH via Gain Capital as clearing. They have much lower minimum deposit requirement compared to Advantage which requires $10K as minimum. However, they are still working on exchange recognized spread trading. I expect they're ready by next month.....{image} By the way, /NGJ21-/HHJ21 is also quite boring so far..... {image}
Anyway, if I bought it at 0.00500, I would be able to bail out by now. It looks like a safe bet.
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- Edited 7:36am Mar 22, 2021 6:23am | Edited 7:36am
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Natural Gas Futures vs. CFD (15M chart) {image} {image} There are clear reasons why U.S. government banned CFD trading......
Edit: Other user reported the same spike: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13463116
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- Mar 22, 2021 6:28am Mar 22, 2021 6:28am
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{quote} It finally starts moving..... Lazy boy......
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- Mar 22, 2021 6:36am Mar 22, 2021 6:36am
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{quote} With NG's low ATR it's almost impossible to lose money unless the broker is like mine and charges huge swaps. I was going to try hedging but the swaps would double kill my account.
By the way, /HH is not available to CFD. Why don't you try some free demo of /NG. I think you like it. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
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