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TMA Real NRP HAX
TMA Half NRP HAX
TMA Divided NRP HAX

September month: new school year has begun.. so it's good time to destroy another myth about TMA [Triangular Moving Average]...

Triangular Moving Average [TMA]:
this is a twice-smoothed Price using Simple Moving Average [SMA] method:
TMA = SMA1(Price,N) --> SMA2(SMA1,N)
where are:
Price - starting Price.
SMA1 - simple moving average, first smoothing stage.
SMA2 - simple moving average, second smoothing stage.
N - period or number of candles for calculating TMA.

but at same time, one brainless baby coder aka mladen takes standard LWMA, sticks there half-period crutch & calls his "wonderful masterpiece" TMA
why did brainless coder deceive everyone? there are several reasons.. but let's not delve into conspiracy theories.

so then:
TMA Real = formula from some article.. this is original TMA = SMA1(Price,N) --> SMA2(SMA1,N)
TMA Half = formula from TradingView, i took it from some induk.. for each stage of SMA smoothing its own half-period formula.
TMA Divided = also formula from some article, but with my corrections.. therefore, in some places, TMA turned out to be more sensitive..

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Quoting mladen

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Of the rest of the "qualities" of such "wonder" stuff (like, God forbid, trying to use that from an EA) is out of the scope of this post - I leave it to the pundit(s)

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Quoting mladen

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And the wonder indicators keep piling up. Here are some (newest) examples - 3 "wonder" indicators at a same post :
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Those are 4 different instances of new, "improved", self-bragging "wonder" indicators
For some "strange" reason they have all the qualities of wonder indicators made by a famous wonder indicator creator (posting the original tested indicators in original package here - for your joy of testing - but in order to avoid any misunderstanding or allegations that I did not use the originals - the originals are here https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post15009752)
So : one is having exactly the same values when the period is odd and when the period is that same odd + 1
example above : period 17 tmadv is exactly the same as tmadv period 18
the other is having exactly the same values when the period is odd and when the period is that same odd - 1
example above : tmahf period 17 is exactly the same as tmahf period 16
settings file attached (for the ease of testing)

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Quoting mladen

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PPS: as of TMA "real" (from the above examples)
it does not calculate even tma periods at all so :
when period is set to 17 it calculates real TMA period 33
when period is set to 18 it calculates real TMA period 35
when period is set to 19 it calculates real TMA period 37
... and so on and on and on ...

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Quoting mladen

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Well, since his majesty, the "creator" of "wonder indicators" has answered : https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post15014746 it is fair that his "colossal" "effort" to re-educate all of us gets at least some answer
Will keep it simple so that (maybe) the newfound math and coding prodigy understands it too

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Quoting mladen

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Hi durak Frankly I can not decide if your stupidity is greater than your ignorance or it is your ignorance that is greater than your stupidity.

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Quoting mladen

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Erudite comments like this :
Quote = and??? i know about this effect, that 17 = 18 and so on... or do you think, that you opened America? again?
Quote = when i was writing & testing these induks: i saw this effect.. but i don't care about it.
are always a pleasure to read and I frankly am thanking you for presenting to all of us :

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Quoting mladen

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that calculating wrong is actually a "proof" that it calculates correctly
discovering that new kind of "math" that you have been so kind to gift to all of us.

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Quoting mladen

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For those less familiar with triangular moving average :
The triangular moving average (TMA) is a weighted average of the last n values where weights are biased towards the center of the desired sample
The general formula is : (value 1 * weight 1 + value 2 * weight 2 ... value n * weight n ) / sum of all n weights
examples (on prices p using specified triangular weights):
period 1 : (p1 * 1) / 1
period 2 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 1) / 2
period 3 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 1) / 4
period 4 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 2 + p4 * 1) / 6
period 5 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 3 + p4 * 2 + p5 * 1) / 9
... and so on and on ...

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Quoting Tankk

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you have to think with your head, which is empty.

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Quoting Tankk

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you are clinical idiot, aren't you?

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Quoting Tankk

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dummy scarecrow

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Quoting Tankk

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this is another your stupidity

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Quoting Tankk

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knock-knock on your wooden empty head dummy-scarecrow = your avatar suits you ideally!!

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Quoting Tankk

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at same time, one brainless baby coder aka mladen takes standard LWMA, sticks there half-period crutch & calls his "wonderful masterpiece" TMA why did brainless coder deceive everyone?

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Quoting Tankk

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but if you didn't understand or forgot, i remind you: there is only one formula of original TMA = SMA1(Price,N) --> SMA2(SMA1,N)

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Quoting yoriz

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Your mother must be proud of you... {quote} Have you even wondered why it is called TRIANGULAR moving average? Do you know what one side of a triangle is? That looks a lot like an LWMA, right? Add a second mirrored LWMA and you have a TMA.

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Quoting yoriz

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No, that is incorrect. The Triangular Moving Average was first introduced by John Ehlers in the 1990s, and it is the triangular weights I have drawn above. You spent two whole pages belittling a well respected coder while apparently you haven't even read John Ehlers' book that defines the TMA...
Surely you will now focus your god-complex on me. Ok, bring it on!

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Quoting mrtools

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Ehlers relative vigor index (rvi) uses a TMA like calculation, Mladen made a version using TMA and it is the same, so now guess metaquotes is wrong too.

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Quoting Tankk

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{quote} MA2 Cross ASA 2MTF'RP TT MA2 Cross ASA 2MTF'RP TT sw SolidArrows=true/false {image} {file} {file}

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Quoting mladen

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For those less familiar with triangular moving average :
The triangular moving average (TMA) is a weighted average of the last n values where weights are biased towards the center of the desired sample
The general formula is : (value 1 * weight 1 + value 2 * weight 2 ... value n * weight n ) / sum of all n weights
examples (on prices p using specified triangular weights):
period 1 : (p1 * 1) / 1
period 2 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 1) / 2
period 3 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 1) / 4
period 4 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 2 + p4 * 1) / 6
period 5 : (p1 * 1 + p2 * 2 + p3 * 3 + p4 * 2 + p5 * 1) / 9
... and so on and on ...

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Quoting Tankk

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and by the way.. this is another your stupidity, to think that other people don't know about these coefficients.
for example.. here is such induk = DWLWMA = https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post14148315
russian coders & mathmen also taught me something.
and yes, this DWLWMA algorithm is much better & accurate than simple SMA, LWMA, TMA & etc.
and yes, following your stupid logic = mathmen should have called this induk Double TMA {image} {file}

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Quoting mladen

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Since triangular moving average was talked about in previous posts : here are correct triangular moving average

1. both versions are calculating the values as they should, meaning :
   1. when it says period 14 it is period 14
   2. when it says period 15 it is period 15
   3. when it says period 16 it is period 16
   4. when it says period 17 it is period 17
   5. and so on....

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Quoting ahmedaminwor

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Hello, can you make this indicator MTF please? {file} {file}

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