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  • #701
  • Dec 31, 2014 5:08pm Dec 31, 2014 5:08pm
http://www.kitco.com/images/live/nyg...07787682455684

Happy New Year everybody....I will be back on the 2nd.
Too close for pips, switching to points.
  • #702
  • Jan 2, 2015 12:53am Jan 2, 2015 12:53am
Quoting dambuster
@ dgodfrey: thanks for the latest version which I have now started running. Do you know if it has the same issues as the original one viz: Do not change timeframes? Possible random closing of entire cycle whijlst in DD?
Hey dambuster, I think I have this problem solved, as well as some others. Got the orphan trade thing fixed, too, at least I hope so. Testing it now on a couple of platforms from different brokers, no problems so far. I did turn the mt4 off and back on, switched timeframes, opened up the input box and changed things - it stays stable right through all that.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #703
  • Jan 2, 2015 1:53am Jan 2, 2015 1:53am
Quoting dgodfrey
{quote} @ fxtrader08 - I'm not even sure what your screen is showing, but those are definitely not the right numbers for BE and Targets. I suspect something in your settings is way off. I would suggest sticking to the defaults on most of the stuff and increasing the buffer and giving it another shot.
Hello - thanks for your message. I didn't change any of the settings. Does the attached look right now?

Many thanks for your help with this. How mathematically could this EA go wrong? I guess there could be a big range and it could tag each of the buys and sells thus causing heavy DD.
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  • #704
  • Jan 2, 2015 4:19am Jan 2, 2015 4:19am
Quoting dgodfrey
{quote} Hey dambuster, I think I have this problem solved, as well as some others. Got the orphan trade thing fixed, too, at least I hope so. Testing it now on a couple of platforms from different brokers, no problems so far. I did turn the mt4 off and back on, switched timeframes, opened up the input box and changed things - it stays stable right through all that.
Excellent, just what the doctoer orderd, thanks!
  • #705
  • Jan 2, 2015 4:20am Jan 2, 2015 4:20am
Quoting fxtrader08
{quote} Hello - thanks for your message. I didn't change any of the settings. Does the attached look right now? Many thanks for your help with this. How mathematically could this EA go wrong? I guess there could be a big range and it could tag each of the buys and sells thus causing heavy DD. {image}
WCS = all trades opened = hedged DD of approx. 30%

The solution, adding orders to the grid, is being worked on
  • #706
  • Edited Jan 3, 2015 12:55am Jan 2, 2015 4:28am | Edited Jan 3, 2015 12:55am
Hi Pipsters,

Here's my trade explorer http://www.forexfactory.com/jstan#67.
  • #707
  • Jan 2, 2015 5:53am Jan 2, 2015 5:53am
Dear sir :
Test the ver2 SL just not work .... please check or somebody can help me to setup
  • #708
  • Jan 2, 2015 6:10am Jan 2, 2015 6:10am
Quoting dambuster
{quote} WCS = all trades opened = hedged DD of approx. 30% The solution, adding orders to the grid, is being worked on
Does it appear to be setup correctly based on my chart?

Also how much RAM do you think we need for this EA? I ask because it took an awfully long time for my trades to close and the pending orders to be cancelled. I also noticed that the orders are cancelled from the furthest away from the price down to the order close to the price.

I am worried that during the process of closing the trades, the price actually touches on one of the pending orders and so this gets opened. What would happen with this trade? I assume the EA wouldn't manage it as the cycle should be closed.
  • #709
  • Jan 2, 2015 7:47am Jan 2, 2015 7:47am
@ fxtrader08 I found that for certain brokers the time it took to close the trades was much longer than others. Slippage numbers will cause orphan trades at times, that's being fixed but for now setting slippage to 0 should take care of that. The program prioritizes open trades first then pending ones. It has redundancy to try to close the trades left open but only a couple of times. That's also being fixed.

@gimin, I'm not around today much, got my day job lol. I'm putting in a lot of error trapping to try to make it easier to do the setup, it varies a lot by broker. I'll try to help tho when I get back. Crazy morning so far in gold. Got a bunch of movement but it was slippage city on my accounts.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #710
  • Jan 2, 2015 7:50am Jan 2, 2015 7:50am
Got one issue with the one I'm testing though - it didn't cycle at all Of course that's not bad because it took out all the sells and the price was out of the box, so the gain was substantial lol. But looks like a little more tweaking is in order.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #711
  • Jan 2, 2015 7:58am Jan 2, 2015 7:58am
Quoting dgodfrey
@ fxtrader08 I found that for certain brokers the time it took to close the trades was much longer than others. Slippage numbers will cause orphan trades at times, that's being fixed but for now setting slippage to 0 should take care of that. The program prioritizes open trades first then pending ones. It has redundancy to try to close the trades left open but only a couple of times. That's also being fixed. @gimin, I'm not around today much, got my day job lol. I'm putting in a lot of error trapping to try to make it easier to do the setup, it...
I'm almost at 10% DD on a cycle. Would be great have a feature that says stop after this cycle or something.

I hope it recovers - it tagged a few sells and is now well on the buy side at the moment but I think it might range a little!
  • #712
  • Jan 2, 2015 8:14am Jan 2, 2015 8:14am
If you want it to stop after a cyles simply put the start time at say 12.45 and the stop time at 12.46.
  • #713
  • Jan 2, 2015 8:17am Jan 2, 2015 8:17am
Yeah, ranging is what gold does best
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #714
  • Jan 2, 2015 8:23am Jan 2, 2015 8:23am
Quoting dgodfrey
Yeah, ranging is what gold does best
Thanks - Should it be on M5 or M15 TF? I see some showing it on M5 and some on M15.
  • #715
  • Jan 2, 2015 9:48am Jan 2, 2015 9:48am
Timeframe is unimportant, just dont change it once the EA starts to trade
  • #716
  • Jan 2, 2015 10:37am Jan 2, 2015 10:37am
Quoting dgodfrey
Here's the code for the updated version of Steady Gold BET which adds dynamic lines to the chart that should display what is shown in the comment block.
Thanks for the latest version, dgodfrey. I'll load it and see how it goes. For now, some observations as for the first BET release:

- timeframe: I had a cycle open and well in the negative on the M5; changed timeframes to higher a few times, and when back to the M5, it closed the cycle in the negative. Once a new cycle opened, I started changing the timeframes again, and this time it was stable. Strange, isn't it?

- settings: changing the settings while a cycle is open doesn't cause a closure

- restarting the terminal: restarted the terminal while a cycle was open; it didn't close the cycle, but soon after restarting the terminal the target was reached, and then it failed to open a new cycle.
mind over matter
  • #717
  • Jan 2, 2015 11:34am Jan 2, 2015 11:34am
Just to be clear, the version that will clear up the stability issues hasn't been released yet, it's BET v2.1. For now, just be careful about doing anything that causes the program to re-initialize (turning off MT4, changing parameters, changing timeframes, etc). Those things may cause an inadvertent cycling at a loss.

Also, because of the coding in the older versions, it would be best to only run one program on one MT4 platform. Running more than one instance probably will cause conflicts, and the program may cycle randomly. That would be per computer, of course.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #718
  • Jan 2, 2015 12:32pm Jan 2, 2015 12:32pm
The cycling issue is fixed! So this should work much better. I'll post the code later today when I have some time to explain the changes and the rationale. I've reworked the inputs a good bit. Maybe we can give it a shot next week. It should also account for the different lot sizes between brokers automatically, as well as 3 digit vs 2 digit brokers, so that will be good feedback to get from the group.

It's looking good! One interesting thing - I have three accounts running the code and because the price of gold ran away from that low where I started the program, completely beyond the box, profits were over 25%, and that wasn't even at the max. This could be useful to try some swing trades if gold ever gets really moving.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #719
  • Jan 2, 2015 12:53pm Jan 2, 2015 12:53pm
Over 30% gain today in the test accounts with the new version Just saw it cycle on cue, right when it hit the target line. Nice day in the gold!
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #720
  • Jan 2, 2015 1:16pm Jan 2, 2015 1:16pm
Quoting dgodfrey
Over 30% gain today in the test accounts with the new version Just saw it cycle on cue, right when it hit the target line. Nice day in the gold!
I´m down heavily today....thats the thing with this EA - you cannot compare with eachother because it all depends when you load it up on the chart. None of us will have the same results.

I've been caught in the heavy swing up and now the downward turn.......

I think the DD needs to be looked at in detail to avoid such high DD.

I have 12 buys and 12 sells open.
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