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  • #50,861
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:01am Aug 30, 2025 11:01am
Quoting navk
Trader191 is new. He is fresher in trading. But has loud mouth. Just ignore him. Wasting energy and time.
Ya I noticed. Most likely his dad gave him some oil money to go start a business and he ended up here bullshitting his way with cheap talk.
  • #50,862
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:06am Aug 30, 2025 11:06am
Quoting Satreveritas
{quote} Is that a true Martingale? Can't trade using Martingale (it goes by a few different names) w some prop firms. Why is that so?
I define martingale by the most noticeable trait of it of 'adding to a losing trade'.
The usual definition is when your trade is a loser, instead of closing it and restarting a new trade, you double down and make a new trade in the same losing direction and continue so until the tides turn.
So, yes this account is a true martingale.
  • #50,863
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:11am Aug 30, 2025 11:11am
BTW, I have no idea if Navk martingales or not.
Whatever I am doing is not what Navk is doing and in fact may be far from what he is doing.
I only got inspirations from the samples of his trading that he posted to go and try making consistent profits using a small account.
There is no way one can duplicate someone else's trading from a screenshot of a dozen trades they have posted.
  • #50,864
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:26am Aug 30, 2025 11:26am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I define martingale by the most noticeable trait of it of 'adding to a losing trade'. The usual definition is when your trade is a loser, instead of closing it and restarting a new trade, you double down and make a new trade in the same losing direction and continue so until the tides turn. So, yes this account is a true martingale.
I understand, thank you.

You'd therefore double a losing position size using a Martingale system, with a risk of catastrophic draw downs in a counter-trend set of positions, as I understand it.
In a trending market you could only leverage so much, so there is a line that exists somewhere depending on account size. And the market will test that line at some point.
I personally will scale in on a high probability setup even when timing is not perfect, but I don't call it a Martingale per se, more like "sloppy entries".
Fading out of losing trades using the regression to the mean works also, that isn't a Martingale as defined, but using probabilities to one's advantage as a Martingale attempts to.

I've personally seen anti-Martingale/reverse-Martingale type setups/systems used in range-bound market conditions with success. I don't know many using Martingale. Be interesting to see some long-term results 1-6 months out. What are the hard stops/risk management components of your Martingale EA to prevent account from blowing? Afterthought edit: this would be needed in any event, but esp. trading with a prop firm or Darwin.
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works"
  • #50,865
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:31am Aug 30, 2025 11:31am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I see you have no balls. No surprise there. Why don't you put up your 20 billion dollar account then? We will just go by %. Real account vs. real account. Come on, what is your excuse now?
its so difficult that you are such a beginner trader who cant answer this question alone? you dont even try to get intelligent or try to find the answer?

i mean yes, you are bad trader, you are a gambler, you are unexperienced... but come on.. but even with all your problems you cant answer the question why i dont want a challenge with a bad trader who fakes with his martingale endless open and deleting accounts, who i have on ignore list because of his faking ...??
and this would be a challenge over 1 or 2 years to say something as result. i really have no time to invest for this, you are no trader... you are simple joke gambler ... so you have 100% the time to invest in such useless things again and again... and you always think anybody is at your low experience level and has time for your beginner problems or beginner challenges (you only hear from beginner such words)

so i hope i helped you a little bid with this, because you was not smart enough to find this easy answer for yourself.. thank me later.... if you need more help tell me.... but i dont have so much time like you, so wait for an answer patiently
  • #50,866
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:34am Aug 30, 2025 11:34am
out of 666 by 191, 665 is big BS.

Intraday only.
  • #50,868
  • Aug 30, 2025 11:52am Aug 30, 2025 11:52am
Quoting Satreveritas
{quote} I understand, thank you. You'd therefore double a losing position size using a Martingale system, with a risk of catastrophic draw downs in a counter-trend set of positions, as I understand it. In a trending market you could only leverage so much, so there is a line that exists somewhere depending on account size. And the market will test that line at some point. I personally will scale in on a high probability setup even when timing is not perfect, but I don't call it a Martingale per se, more like "sloppy entries". Fading out of losing...
You are also welcome to accept my 1K challenge for any term you like. 1 month, 6 month, eternity...whatever TF suits you.
  • #50,869
  • Edited 12:17pm Aug 30, 2025 11:57am | Edited 12:17pm
Any trader on this forum or others, any blogger/influencer, any author or mathematician, quant, professor of trading or genius or savants of any type is welcome to accept my 1K challenge any time.
I am eagerly waiting.

PS: I do however hope for someone kinda better known and prominent cause it'd be nice to prove their high status wrong.
Any big names in the world of finance that has dissed martingale?
Please refer me to them. Thanks.
Oh man...if I could only get one of them 'Wizards of the Wall street' type to take me on this...
  • #50,870
  • Aug 30, 2025 12:53pm Aug 30, 2025 12:53pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You are also welcome to accept my 1K challenge for any term you like. 1 month, 6 month, eternity...whatever TF suits you.
My query was central to using the Martingale with any success and was made in good faith and politely, as obviously you do use some form of risk management based on the account screenshot/equity curve that you posted, otherwise you'd have it drawn down significantly (more than you did, that is). Esp. given the context (prop firms) I felt it a relevant question that didn't presuppose that it can't be profitable, but it seems it was taken as a challenge.

TLDR: Throwing down the gauntlet didn't address the question of risk management, but it does speak to your mindset, goals, and motivation.
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works"
  • #50,871
  • Aug 30, 2025 1:36pm Aug 30, 2025 1:36pm
Quoting Satreveritas
{quote} My query was central to using the Martingale with any success and was made in good faith and politely, as obviously you do use some form of risk management based on the account screenshot/equity curve that you posted, otherwise you'd have it drawn down significantly (more than you did, that is). Esp. given the context (prop firms) I felt it a relevant question that didn't presuppose that it can't be profitable, but it seems it was taken as a challenge. TLDR: Throwing down the gauntlet didn't address the question of risk management, but it...
Well, I don't really feel that I am responsible to educate people how martingale works in order for it to work.
Surely, those who go on rants about it not working have done their fair share of trying to be able to make their assertions already.
If I claim that aliens exist and produce one and put in front of you, I don't have to also come up with their particulars of their reason for existence. Do I? The proof is in the pudding as they say.

There are tons and tons of martingale based systems around. Some automated and some manual. Have you tried them all? I doubt it.

Speaking of mindset, goals, and motivation, I'm not here to do your homework for you and asking a question on a forum isn't going to prepare the results of your homework and put it in front of you.

Best of luck in your trading endeavors.
  • #50,872
  • Aug 30, 2025 2:05pm Aug 30, 2025 2:05pm
Quoting Satreveritas
{quote} My query was central to using the Martingale with any success and was made in good faith and politely, as obviously you do use some form of risk management based on the account screenshot/equity curve that you posted, otherwise you'd have it drawn down significantly (more than you did, that is). Esp. given the context (prop firms) I felt it a relevant question that didn't presuppose that it can't be profitable, but it seems it was taken as a challenge. TLDR: Throwing down the gauntlet didn't address the question of risk management, but it...
you cant argue with such beginner traders.
outthere lost so many accounts again and again and again because of his martingale, that all together he should be very big loser in trading.. so he proofed extrem easy how bad martingale is for him, but same time in any new attempt he is doing he will post how good it work until this attempt fail like the others... and then circle repeats.... endless story with such unexperienced traders.... navk, outthere,.... nothing you dont see in in any forum many hundred times ... standard beginners.

when you see them talking about theory you can already see where they have problems and why they are still in this loser area and beginner topics..... but nobody wants help such arrogant fakers.... at least they earn what they got... they need at least fake they are good to have at least little self respect for losing time and money and hope. but by this faking they bring other beginners in this loser circle too, who cant judge this gambling - thats the unfair part of their faking... if not because of this ,this could be at least a trading comedy show .
  • #50,874
  • Aug 30, 2025 2:15pm Aug 30, 2025 2:15pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Well, I don't really feel that I am responsible to educate people how martingale works in order for it to work. Surely, those who go on rants about it not working have done their fair share of trying to be able to make their assertions already. If I claim that aliens exist and produce one and put in front of you, I don't have to also come up with their particulars of their reason for existence. Do I? The proof is in the pudding as they say. There are tons and tons of martingale based systems around. Some automated and some manual. Have you...
TLDR: Still cannot or will not answer I'm left wondering, who hurt you?

I don't need luck, and will add that I never disparaged your system nor ranted, (having used Martingale and anti-Martingale in the past and being genuinely curious how you managed to navigate a prop firm risk rules environment) and in fact payed you some low-key compliments- in return, I note your condescension and disrespect in our thankfully brief conversation, and in others, vulgarity and aggression, all combined with a hefty dose of approval seeking on the internet. I'll review this instead https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...ngale-strategy -at least this is mostly on-topic, if older content on the topic. Enjoy your thread, looks like it will be all yours soon.
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works"
  • #50,875
  • Aug 30, 2025 2:17pm Aug 30, 2025 2:17pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you cant argue with such beginner traders. ... if not because of this ,this could be at least a trading comedy show .
We actually have one of those here: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...gh-bonus-learn
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works"
  • #50,876
  • Aug 30, 2025 3:49pm Aug 30, 2025 3:49pm
Quoting OutThere
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because i did set you on my ignore list years ago because you was big talker when your martingale did not crash fast, and after was crashing after some time you deleted account and restartet. (again with big mouth , like nothing happened).. i did see you do this again and again.. same like navk.

maybe you are extrem loser, maybe big loser... whats the difference... all the time you presented yourself as a loser on the end and restarted.... just like a standard martingale trader with big mouth until busted, small aggressive child when busted - ignore list candidate.

funny that such a loser like you even dream about make a challenge with other (looks like you have time for this, losers dont have much to do in trading of course and can so make challenges all the day .... such a funny fact)... its like you create a comedy show and want price for biggest clown. nobody will accept a challenge from a gambler and loser (result always same with you one the end) - become a trader some day, maybe after this someone take you serious.
  • #50,877
  • Aug 30, 2025 4:32pm Aug 30, 2025 4:32pm
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  • #50,878
  • Aug 30, 2025 5:03pm Aug 30, 2025 5:03pm
Seriously want to lose your money in prop firm?

Goto prop firm 2 thread. plsssssssssssss.
Intraday only.
  • #50,879
  • Aug 30, 2025 5:05pm Aug 30, 2025 5:05pm
Quoting OutThere
Any trader on this forum or others, any blogger/influencer, any author or mathematician, quant, professor of trading or genius or savants of any type is welcome to accept my 1K challenge any time. I am eagerly waiting. PS: I do however hope for someone kinda better known and prominent cause it'd be nice to prove their high status wrong. Any big names in the world of finance that has dissed martingale? Please refer me to them. Thanks. Oh man...if I could only get one of them 'Wizards of the Wall street' type to take me on this...
None of the 14 guys in my ignore list will be ready for your challenge.

They are top I****TS.

Intraday only.
  • #50,880
  • Aug 30, 2025 5:45pm Aug 30, 2025 5:45pm
Quoting Satreveritas
{quote} TLDR: Still cannot or will not answer I'm left wondering, who hurt you? I don't need luck, and will add that I never disparaged your system nor ranted, (having used Martingale and anti-Martingale in the past and being genuinely curious how you managed to navigate a prop firm risk rules environment) and in fact payed you some low-key compliments- in return, I note your condescension and disrespect in our thankfully brief conversation, and in others, vulgarity and aggression, all combined with a hefty dose of approval seeking on...
Sorry to see you come up empty handed for your inquary of how to to navigate a prop firm risk rules environment.
I didn't aim to fullfil such questions about trading.
Enjoy your life.
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