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  • #45,921
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:21am Jan 3, 2025 7:21am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} You are not losing money due to the brokers or prop firms though. Have you ever been due money and been denied? From any company?
Never because I have never been able to make profits, when I made I lost all back to the market. I have taken tiny tiny profit withdrawal but just for the name sake. I don't think any broker will create problem to pay small when loss too big. Problem may occur when you make big with very small investment,
  • #45,922
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:58am Jan 3, 2025 7:58am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Never because I have never been able to make profits, when I made I lost all back to the market. I have taken tiny tiny profit withdrawal but just for the name sake. I don't think any broker will create problem to pay small when loss too big. Problem may occur when you make big with very small investment,
Exactly, so I would say step 1 is to become profitable. Right now, you are worried about issues that do not pertain to you. Worry and stress is the most useless emotion humans have. I always tell folks to journal for a year everything that they lose sleep over and go back and review and you will see 90% of these things never occurred.......complete waste of time and shortens your lifespan.
  • #45,923
  • Jan 3, 2025 8:16am Jan 3, 2025 8:16am
1k done in my 150 k account with ticktick today.

Highest day of profit. Still maintaining consistenct 20 %.

Now stopped trading for today.

Testing my system , best opportunity to test live ( in mt4 ) on gold, so that i can implement on futures.
Intraday only.
  • #45,924
  • Jan 3, 2025 8:39am Jan 3, 2025 8:39am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Never because I have never been able to make profits, when I made I lost all back to the market. I have taken tiny tiny profit withdrawal but just for the name sake. I don't think any broker will create problem to pay small when loss too big. Problem may occur when you make big with very small investment,
style 1: when you win and same time your broker wins (in general when broker dont hold opposite position), all brokers want to see you win in trades more often....
style 2: when you win and same time your broker lose (in general when broker hold opposite position), all brokers want to see lose in trades more often....

so when you earn bigger and bigger, there will always come the time you need to switch the broker to style 1 if you not started with this already (or you need to use little accounts over a lot of brokers).
  • #45,925
  • Jan 3, 2025 8:40am Jan 3, 2025 8:40am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Well, except in the US, where, of course, they claim to have the best regulation........you can ONLY trade with market makers with ridiculous spreads and deceptive practices. You would think it would be the opposite, but we all know how the game is played.
you are right, i have only knowledge about European market, i should have add this.
  • #45,926
  • Edited 9:46am Jan 3, 2025 8:51am | Edited 9:46am
Some Pro's n Con's of new Futures firms.....

Pro''s
Futureselite
1. Bes tof the bunch.
2. Live Dashboard updates and looks good as well with alot of features
3. Create your own evals and cheap as well.
4. Support is fast as well no matter whats the time (discord)
5. Fast to receive funded account like in 15 mins everything seems automated i.e pass the evals --> do kyc --> receive contract n sign --> funded SIM no need to wait till the end of the day
5. Seeing decent payout proofs in discord

Blueguardian, Aqua
1. Cheapest as hell prices
2. Same trading n payout rules like mffu

Con's
Futureselite
1. Scalping rules and flagging of trades alot of crying about it in discord

Blueguardian, Aqua
1. Slowest to get funded account as whole business day has passed no news yet.
2. 40% consistency on evals
3. DLL hard breach
4. Website is still messed up at alot of places.

Overall anyone wants to risk go with FUTURESELITE for now
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #45,927
  • Jan 3, 2025 10:34am Jan 3, 2025 10:34am
Quoting montygoldy
Some Pro's n Con's of new Futures firms..... Pro''s Futureselite 1. Bes tof the bunch. 2. Live Dashboard updates and looks good as well with alot of features 3. Create your own evals and cheap as well. 4. Support is fast as well no matter whats the time (discord) 5. Fast to receive funded account like in 15 mins everything seems automated i.e pass the evals --> do kyc --> receive contract n sign --> funded SIM no need to wait till the end of the day 5. Seeing decent payout proofs in discord Blueguardian, Aqua 1. Cheapest as hell prices 2. Same trading...
futureselite : Lots of discussions going on about micro scalping. Account flag... and so on.
Intraday only.
  • #45,928
  • Jan 3, 2025 11:32am Jan 3, 2025 11:32am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Never because I have never been able to make profits, when I made I lost all back to the market. I have taken tiny tiny profit withdrawal but just for the name sake. I don't think any broker will create problem to pay small when loss too big. Problem may occur when you make big with very small investment,
Every time, i see your post. I lose money. I guess you are always talking negative and depressing things.
  • #45,929
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:07pm Jan 3, 2025 12:07pm
Quoting jonesmiami
{quote} Every time, i see your post. I lose money. I guess you are always talking negative and depressing things.
haaaa
  • #45,930
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:42pm Jan 3, 2025 12:42pm
Quoting jonesmiami
{quote} Every time, i see your post. I lose money. I guess you are always talking negative and depressing things.
LOL, that's your cognitive bias "self-serving"
Self-Serving Bias is a cognitive bias where people attribute their successes to internal factors (like their own skills or effort) and their failures to external factors (like bad luck or unfair circumstances or outside people). This bias helps protect self-esteem but can also distort reality and hinder personal growth.
  • #45,931
  • Jan 3, 2025 1:00pm Jan 3, 2025 1:00pm
Yesterday was a crazy day of trading.
Blew through 40 APEX Evals in groups of 5 each.
Now sitting on $2.25M in PA accounts.
Total cost $1,518 and 12 hours of continuous non stop gamble/trading.
Total drawdown available not counting all of the excessive rules $62,500.
Still have one $300K eval alive currently at $6K profit.
May go through the entire process again in a month if I let them evals renew.

Having a hard time believing it really.
Studying every rule in detail and making a bulleted list if anyone is interest I can post it. Watching payout denial vids. These new rules are very tough, I am probably going to have to adapt my trading style or use another system. the 1/5 rule and 30% consistency combined really affect my trading style the most.
Don't matter I can follow rules to make big bucks. This year I am going to KILL IT and hope you guys do to!!!
  • #45,932
  • Jan 3, 2025 1:19pm Jan 3, 2025 1:19pm
Quoting josh1111
Yesterday was a crazy day of trading. Blew through 40 APEX Evals in groups of 5 each. Now sitting on $2.25M in PA accounts. Total cost $1,518 and 12 hours of continuous non stop gamble/trading. Total drawdown available not counting all of the excessive rules $62,500. Still have one $300K eval alive currently at $6K profit. May go through the entire process again in a month if I let them evals renew. Having a hard time believing it really. Studying every rule in detail and making a bulleted list if anyone is interest I can post it. Watching payout...

What about the 10 accounts you passed yesterday?

So bought 50 accounts - Passed 10 and Blew 40?
  • #45,933
  • Jan 3, 2025 1:30pm Jan 3, 2025 1:30pm
Quoting Evasparkling
{quote} What about the 10 accounts you passed yesterday? So bought 50 accounts - Passed 10 and Blew 40?
Bought 40 passed 10.
1 300K Eval still going.
  • #45,934
  • Jan 3, 2025 2:25pm Jan 3, 2025 2:25pm
Quoting josh1111
Yesterday was a crazy day of trading. Blew through 40 APEX Evals in groups of 5 each. Now sitting on $2.25M in PA accounts. Total cost $1,518 and 12 hours of continuous non stop gamble/trading. Total drawdown available not counting all of the excessive rules $62,500. Still have one $300K eval alive currently at $6K profit. May go through the entire process again in a month if I let them evals renew. Having a hard time believing it really. Studying every rule in detail and making a bulleted list if anyone is interest I can post it. Watching payout...
This was a fantastic experiment and great job. $1,518 for 62.5K DD is awesome. Those 300K accounts allow $3,500 max, so with 10 accounts, $35,000 payout potential every 8 days.......potential for a 100K month.
The math point here is, even though you only passed 20%, you still obtained more than double the DD for the approximate cost of 4 STF with Tradeify or TickTick and I'm sure had a great adrenaline rush doing it
  • #45,935
  • Edited 8:50pm Jan 3, 2025 5:45pm | Edited 8:50pm
Quoting navk
{quote} futureselite : Lots of discussions going on about micro scalping. Account flag... and so on.
yep thats what i mentioned in the con.. if you want micro scalping then create a custom plan, pay extra for scalping(meaning 5 or less point and trades)… for me doesnot matter as my minimum is 10 points
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #45,936
  • Edited 2:23am Jan 4, 2025 2:09am | Edited 2:23am
Was surveying some prop firms and noticed uprofit has been flagged as a scam.
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There's a uprofit trader on trust pilot that's been closed: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/uprofittrader.com

And there's a new https://uprofit.com/ website that seems to refer to the trust pilot that's been closed. There's a new trustpilot review of the new website that has very low ratings https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.uprofit.com.

Was looking at some traffic table shared here and thought I'd take a look at them. Their prices seemed very attractive, but details on their FAQ were inconsistent, so I went searching around and found that they turned rogue. Surprising since they had 6k+ reviews averaging 4.8 stars.
  • #45,937
  • Jan 4, 2025 3:10am Jan 4, 2025 3:10am
Quoting maltrader
Was surveying some prop firms and noticed uprofit has been flagged as a scam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtJY3QWYh44 There's a uprofit trader on trust pilot that's been closed: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/uprofittrader.com And there's a new https://uprofit.com/ website that seems to refer to the trust pilot that's been closed. There's a new trustpilot review of the new website that has very low ratings https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.uprofit.com. Was looking at some traffic table shared...
Is it the one with the website that looks like a NYC taxi ?
  • #45,938
  • Jan 4, 2025 5:52am Jan 4, 2025 5:52am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Its because if they didnt do that they will go bankrupt
Really, why is that? The 5ers have been at it since 2016 and they're still very much around.

I think I'll have to wait around some more to find what I'm looking for this year: a prop firm that lives up to the real definition of the term. If regulation is to come in the near future as predicted, my wish is that any broker that offers prop services would provide their funded traders real capital instead of using them as mere signal providers.
Amor Fati--F. Nietzsche
  • #45,939
  • Jan 4, 2025 5:58am Jan 4, 2025 5:58am
Quoting maltrader
Was surveying some prop firms and noticed uprofit has been flagged as a scam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtJY3QWYh44 There's a uprofit trader on trust pilot that's been closed: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/uprofittrader.com And there's a new https://uprofit.com/ website that seems to refer to the trust pilot that's been closed. There's a new trustpilot review of the new website that has very low ratings https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.uprofit.com. Was looking at some traffic table shared...
Yeah I saw they had some weird payout denials. Do you already trade with the major ones ? if not probably be safer and stick with the topstep, takeprofittrader, MFFU and so on
  • #45,940
  • Jan 4, 2025 6:51am Jan 4, 2025 6:51am
Quoting doji
{quote} Really, why is that? The 5ers have been at it since 2016 and they're still very much around. I think I'll have to wait around some more to find what I'm looking for this year: a prop firm that lives up to the real definition of the term. If regulation is to come in the near future as predicted, my wish is that any broker that offers prop services would provide their funded traders real capital instead of using them as mere signal providers.
I think you might want to try the futures route instead.

I think most CFD brokers act as the market maker most of the time and bet against you. Doesn't make a difference if you trade a "real" or "sim" account, since it's the same thing. I don't think any DMA brokers offer prop trading at the moment.
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