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  • #44,021
  • Nov 1, 2024 11:47am Nov 1, 2024 11:47am
Who is going to beat this guy ?


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@Pipmaster , the old man missed that sentence…
  • #44,022
  • Nov 1, 2024 12:53pm Nov 1, 2024 12:53pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Who is going to beat this guy ? {image} @Pipmaster , the old man missed that sentence…
What a joke, promoting 294K payouts in 33 days from a 40K account. And then saying they don't want gamblers. Nobody can take these props serious. They deserve to be hit from all kind of degenerates.
  • #44,023
  • Nov 1, 2024 1:54pm Nov 1, 2024 1:54pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Who is going to beat this guy ? {image}
matt can beat this guy, by posting a picture with a higher number at anytime
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  • #44,024
  • Nov 1, 2024 5:35pm Nov 1, 2024 5:35pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Who is going to beat this guy ? {image} @Pipmaster , the old man missed that sentence…
Good for the guy who made this much so far….. i am not surprised highly possible he got paid…pulling these numbers of prop firms are not a new thing….
if anyone follows patrick weiland on youtube… he is killing topstep in similar way
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,025
  • Nov 1, 2024 5:53pm Nov 1, 2024 5:53pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Good for the guy who made this much so far….. i am not surprised highly possible he got paid…pulling these numbers of prop firms are not a new thing…. if anyone follows patrick weiland on youtube… he is killing topstep in similar way
This is positive mind set.

Other posts negative.
Intraday only.
  • #44,026
  • Nov 1, 2024 11:17pm Nov 1, 2024 11:17pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Good for the guy who made this much so far….. i am not surprised highly possible he got paid…pulling these numbers of prop firms are not a new thing…. if anyone follows patrick weiland on youtube… he is killing topstep in similar way
the problem with this payments is often, you dont know how much is marketing (and its in many kind possible do this as marketing trick) and how much is real.

its no problem to earn this in real private accounts (some need weeks, other months, other years for this ... depends on skill, risk appetite and account balance) and withdraw it anytime and check if its real, but in prob any of this can be easy fake because is done so often as fake (most easy marketing trick of prop companies, when money gets an influencer chance for fake is even big increasing).

is patrick weiland not a known scammer/faker? i dont follow so much of this scamming people, so dont know about anyone of this.
  • #44,027
  • Nov 1, 2024 11:23pm Nov 1, 2024 11:23pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} the problem with this payments is often, you dont know how much is marketing (and its in many kind possible do this as marketing trick) and how much is real. its no problem to earn this in real private accounts (some need weeks, other months, other years for this ... depends on skill, risk appetite and account balance) and withdraw it anytime and check if its real, but in prob any of this can be easy fake because is done so often as fake (most easy marketing trick of prop companies, when money gets an influencer chance for fake is even big...
I am agreeing to most of yours points... But now adays alot of average JOE's have 100k + payouts from prop firms specifically FUTURES (so many youtube streamers with payout proofs who have subscribers less than 1k).... I know couple of guys personally who have made surplus of 200k in last 6 months alone from props....
So i am saying not everything is FAKE there are people who killing it.
When it comes to MFFU if its true or not i dont know but atleast i dont hear any denials thats a good thing.....
When it comes to PAtrick i am not defending him at all but recently he is on topstep leaderboard top 20 which is absolutely cant be fake as he is having a beef with them. He had 100k payouts proof as well from them i guess recently.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,028
  • Nov 1, 2024 11:33pm Nov 1, 2024 11:33pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I am agreeing to most of yours points... But now adays alot of average JOE's have 100k + payouts from prop firms specifically FUTURES (so many youtube streamers with payout proofs who have subscribers less than 1k).... I know couple of guys personally who have made surplus of 200k in last 6 months alone from props.... So i am saying not everything is FAKE there are people who killing it. When it comes to MFFU if its true or not i dont know but atleast i dont hear any denials thats a good thing..... When it comes to PAtrick i am not defending...
i mean with faker, that he never traded at all. he only had paper accounts or prop maybe. so not easy calling him a trader.
but i dont know much about him, because he is not known in trading, only heard about him in the fake topics sometimes.

but a lot of prop will do good marketing just by work together with persons with some followers (dont need to be much follower, because costs for the prop are zero dollars for a lot of marketing). they just fake payments, they dont pay this in real, the "trader" just get the paper that its paid this or this amount and he can push his channel by look like a good trader and earn then from youtube, coaching, sell other parts... whatever. thats how its done often and prop look like a lot win big, best marketing without costing one cent. win win situation ....

and any company would do marketing like this, if they would be in same situation like this prop companies, because its just to easy to do and without any cost, and best marketing to bring more people to get greedy and open more challenges. what you would do when you have such a company?
  • #44,029
  • Nov 2, 2024 1:16am Nov 2, 2024 1:16am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} i mean with faker, that he never traded at all. he only had paper accounts or prop maybe. so not easy calling him a trader. but i dont know much about him, because he is not known in trading, only heard about him in the fake topics sometimes. but a lot of prop will do good marketing just by work together with persons with some followers (dont need to be much follower, because costs for the prop are zero dollars for a lot of marketing). they just fake payments, they dont pay this in real, the "trader" just get the paper that its paid this...
Yes i understand the marketing part... But its kinda opposite Patrick is having a beef with topstep guys and he is rubbing ont their faces... Like an actual fight.... The reason he is believable coz he do trades during his streams and show profit/losses...
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,030
  • Nov 2, 2024 5:53am Nov 2, 2024 5:53am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Good for the guy who made this much so far….. i am not surprised highly possible he got paid…pulling these numbers of prop firms are not a new thing…. if anyone follows patrick weiland on youtube… he is killing topstep in similar way

You are trading on Topstepx platform ?

if so , is there a way to practice on the platform before you start the combine ? How long you can practice ?

never had issue’s ?
  • #44,031
  • Nov 2, 2024 5:57am Nov 2, 2024 5:57am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} the problem with this payments is often, you dont know how much is marketing (and its in many kind possible do this as marketing trick) and how much is real. its no problem to earn this in real private accounts (some need weeks, other months, other years for this ... depends on skill, risk appetite and account balance) and withdraw it anytime and check if its real, but in prob any of this can be easy fake because is done so often as fake (most easy marketing trick of prop companies, when money gets an influencer chance for fake is even big...
I would consider this as an inspiration tome than the truth.
This helps to imrove ourselves.
If one is able to make 10 % of what is said there, he is successful person.
I see that Monty and some others thriving to come into that category.
Intraday only.
  • #44,032
  • Nov 2, 2024 5:59am Nov 2, 2024 5:59am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} You are trading on Topstepx platform ? if so , is there a way to practice on the platform before you start the combine ? How long you can practice ? never had issue’s ?
Tradeday offers 14 day practice.
I did demo first b4 jumping prop firm furures paid subscription
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  • #44,033
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:02am Nov 2, 2024 6:02am
Quoting navk
{quote} I would consider this as an inspiration tome than the truth. This helps to imrove ourselves. If one is able to make 10 % of what is said there, he is successful person. I see that Monty and some others thriving to come into that category.
Inspiration should come from real things not fake shouldn’t it?
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  • #44,034
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:07am Nov 2, 2024 6:07am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} You are trading on Topstepx platform ? if so , is there a way to practice on the platform before you start the combine ? How long you can practice ? never had issue’s ?
Hi Stoneyrocks,

With the Combine purchase comes a 150K Practice Account for you to use during the course of your time with TopStepX.
No additional cost for this.
  • #44,035
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:25am Nov 2, 2024 6:25am
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Hi Stoneyrocks, With the Combine purchase comes a 150K Practice Account for you to use during the course of your time with TopStepX. No additional cost for this.
ok, but the combine starts at the date of the purchase ? I want the combibe to start on the day when I have built up enough experience on the practice account but that does not seem the case, correct ?
  • #44,036
  • Nov 2, 2024 6:29am Nov 2, 2024 6:29am
Quoting dempire1
{quote} Inspiration should come from real things not fake shouldn’t it?
I would consider it as truth if it helps in my motivation.
I do not read much in that to carryout research.
Intraday only.
  • #44,037
  • Nov 2, 2024 8:18am Nov 2, 2024 8:18am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I am agreeing to most of yours points... But now adays alot of average JOE's have 100k + payouts from prop firms specifically FUTURES (so many youtube streamers with payout proofs who have subscribers less than 1k).... I know couple of guys personally who have made surplus of 200k in last 6 months alone from props.... So i am saying not everything is FAKE there are people who killing it. When it comes to MFFU if its true or not i dont know but atleast i dont hear any denials thats a good thing..... When it comes to PAtrick i am not defending...
I definitely lean more towards your side. While it would make sense from a marketing perspective to display these huge payouts and possibly even be paying some influencers because the ROI is there based on the traffic they bring, I also believe their are many making big payouts as well.
It also depends on the firm, there are some I believe 100%, some I'm on the fence and others I do not believe a singl thing they say.
MFFU is near the top of my list now, most likely starting with them this week.
This thread is my source for 99% of the decisions I make. To break it down further, there are 7 people in this thread I base my decisions on. You, obviously, are one of them. You and Capa provide, by far, the most "real world, real use" insight into these firms.....Capa for forex (which I do not trade any longer) and you on futures.
All of the bullshit opinions on firms from folks not actually using them is completely useless.
  • #44,038
  • Edited 11:14am Nov 2, 2024 8:52am | Edited 11:14am
Well, Monty is the only person who shares real time experience with firms. And truth.

It is because He shares profits scored, payout received, accounts lost / blown.

Most importantly, he shares his goal with positive mindset.

I would consider his experience seriously.

No comments on other posts.
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  • #44,039
  • Nov 2, 2024 8:56am Nov 2, 2024 8:56am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I definitely lean more towards your side. While it would make sense from a marketing perspective to display these huge payouts and possibly even be paying some influencers because the ROI is there based on the traffic they bring, I also believe their are many making big payouts as well. It also depends on the firm, there are some I believe 100%, some I'm on the fence and others I do not believe a singl thing they say. MFFU is near the top of my list now, most likely starting with them this week. This thread is my source for 99% of the decisions...
Why you do not believe Apex or Tradeify as good firms ?
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  • #44,040
  • Nov 2, 2024 9:03am Nov 2, 2024 9:03am
Quoting navk
{quote} Why you do not believe Apex or Tradeify as good firms ?
Did not say that at all. truly amazing how statements get taken out of context. I have 5 funded accounts with Apex. I believe that MFFU with all in pricing of $76 for 50K, EOD DD and 5 profitable days allowing withdrawal without buffer restriction simply blows everyone out of the water....plus they pay in like 24 seconds.
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