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  • #39,381
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:04pm Jul 16, 2024 8:04pm
Quoting hayseed
don't hold me to it, but looks like apex is going to reset negative balances again today...... meaning negative balances for the 7 /16/24 new york close......
apex said tradovate trades will be halted for several hours after the markets opening..... this so they can make good on the resetting of accounts.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #39,382
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:13pm Jul 16, 2024 8:13pm
Karl incoming in 3,2,1.........
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  • #39,383
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:26pm Jul 16, 2024 8:26pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I think that is only for countries that are accepted by Darwin the broker.
Yes, us third world citizens here in the USA can only do zero.
  • #39,384
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:30pm Jul 16, 2024 8:30pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} apex said tradovate trades will be halted for several hours after the markets opening..... this so they can make good on the resetting of accounts.....h
My orders are not even going through....
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  • #39,385
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:39pm Jul 16, 2024 8:39pm
Apparently Tradovate has really ganked it up.

Via MFFU discord

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  • #39,386
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:41pm Jul 16, 2024 8:41pm
I started respecting MT4 more, no matter how people think about MT4 but it is most stable platform out there in the market tested for years without any major issues.....
  • #39,387
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:45pm Jul 16, 2024 8:45pm
Quoting sampat
I started respecting MT4 more, no matter how people think about MT4 but it is most stable platform out there in the market tested for years without any major issues.....
No doubt. MT4 is the goat. Still dumbfounded that they couldn’t have made it 64 bit, handle futures feeds, etc. Rather push MT5 which in comparison is still a heaping pile of dog .
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  • #39,388
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:57pm Jul 16, 2024 8:57pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} No doubt. MT4 is the goat. Still dumbfounded that they couldn’t have made it 64 bit, handle futures feeds, etc. Rather push MT5 which in comparison is still a heaping pile of dog .
They actually did convert MT4 to 64-bit last year. 32-bit installers stopped working on January 1, 2024.
  • #39,389
  • Jul 16, 2024 8:58pm Jul 16, 2024 8:58pm
Quoting hayseed
don't hold me to it, but looks like apex is going to reset negative balances again today...... meaning negative balances for the 7 /16/24 new york close...... so if your the tidy type that cancels accounts that were blown today, you might want to hold off a bit...... those balances might be reinstated.....i don't know what will happen if the accounts were canceled to avoid be rebilled..... they might be goners...... apex says the issues are tradovates..... i do appreciate apex taking ownership of the problem...... and btw, have had all my apex orders...
Had no issues at all today with apex on rithmic.
  • #39,390
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:02pm Jul 16, 2024 9:02pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} No doubt. MT4 is the goat. Still dumbfounded that they couldn’t have made it 64 bit, handle futures feeds, etc. Rather push MT5 which in comparison is still a heaping pile of dog .
Not sure either regarding futures and MT4. I trade futures on MT5 wherever possible (amp and Darwinex). I use rithmic feed with quantower for my apex accounts. Haven't done so yet, but my understanding is I can have Topstep, TakeProfit, etc and copy all within quantower.
  • #39,391
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:05pm Jul 16, 2024 9:05pm
Quoting procrude
{quote} My orders are not even going through....
//-----

they reset all mine that ended negative for the day back to sunday open a few minutes ago.....

they even reset the ones i cancelled this afternoon before knowing they were doing this...... should have drug my feet a few days before cancelling...... those are likely goners even if i pass...

live and learn.......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #39,392
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:18pm Jul 16, 2024 9:18pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Had no issues at all today with apex on rithmic.
//------

it seems so random...... one thing that has me concerned is in group trading...... some accounts might get orders rejected and others go thru......

then when you go to close sells as a group, it can place a buy on the account that had the sell rejected......

this has happened to me twice lately and i never new the buy was there...... which of course violates the same direction rule.....

closed it for a loss as soon as i noticed it...... hopefully apex will understand....

now i watch all accounts open p/l constantly..... if one is different i look to see why......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #39,393
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:32pm Jul 16, 2024 9:32pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Not sure either regarding futures and MT4. I trade futures on MT5 wherever possible (amp and Darwinex). I use rithmic feed with quantower for my apex accounts. Haven't done so yet, but my understanding is I can have Topstep, TakeProfit, etc and copy all within quantower.
Yeah I still use MT5 with AMP as well.
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  • #39,394
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:37pm Jul 16, 2024 9:37pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, us third world citizens here in the USA can only do zero.
You're lucky pm77, the Spaniards can't though I see. Interesting how they can't with the spanish firm and I cant with AXI an Aussie firm. Weird.

Did you pay the sign up fee at inception or is that after going to silver?
  • #39,395
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:51pm Jul 16, 2024 9:51pm
Quoting pipmaster77
DarwinIA update, rating for first allocation hit. {image} {image}
Congratz!
How many months are needed from the calibration phase and the silver phase until allocation? 2 months?
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  • #39,396
  • Jul 16, 2024 9:53pm Jul 16, 2024 9:53pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ it seems so random...... one thing that has me concerned is in group trading...... some accounts might get orders rejected and others go thru...... then when you go to close sells as a group, it can place a buy on the account that had the sell rejected...... this has happened to me twice lately and i never new the buy was there...... which of course violates the same direction rule..... closed it for a loss as soon as i noticed it...... hopefully apex will understand.... now i watch all accounts open p/l constantly..... if one is...
Yes, on quantower, there is a positions tab and a working orders tab. I always check when entering at market or if a limit order gets triggered. I do the same when they close...check to be sure all working orders were cancelled. It is a PITA, but what can you do.
  • #39,397
  • Jul 16, 2024 10:02pm Jul 16, 2024 10:02pm
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} You're lucky pm77, the Spaniards can't though I see. Interesting how they can't with the spanish firm and I cant with AXI an Aussie firm. Weird. Did you pay the sign up fee at inception or is that after going to silver?
So you pay to start calibration and then same date every month. I (unintentionally) started like 2nd week of June, so got lucky the 15 days ended end of month and my DarwinIA was created right on July 1 giving me a full month to max out my rating and get higher allocation.
Silver starts when DarwinIA is created after 15 day calibration. DarwinIA is only created on Mondays. However, if your 15 days is up on a Tuesday, you may trade and it will all all count towards your DarwinIA quote
If you end calibration towards end of month, not as much time to get the rating to minimum 75 before end of that month as Silver and Gold run on calendar months regardeless of when you start.
However, with that being said, you could have an extra week and the entire following month or you could have a great 1 week or perhaps your score was good from calibration as that all counts as well.
  • #39,398
  • Jul 16, 2024 10:08pm Jul 16, 2024 10:08pm
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Congratz! How many months are needed from the calibration phase and the silver phase until allocation? 2 months?
So Silver and Gold run on calendar months. As stated above, I luckily started 2nd week of June, so 15 days lined up with end of month. This gives me all of July to max out rating and allocation. I will get allocation end of month so I begin earning in August. Each allocation lasts 3 months and you can manage 3 simultaneously.
So, for example, you qualify for 30k euro each month, by 4th month you are actually managing 90k euro. I believe, 8th month, you qualify for gold and these allocations last 6 months and you are opened up to investors for additional capital.
It is a long term project, but I'm pretty confident I can hit 4% monthly, which should lead to 100K euro, so I'm planning on managing 300K euro by 4th month. Once gold, if I can keep DD under control, I would imagine I would see some investor interest as well.
  • #39,399
  • Jul 16, 2024 10:10pm Jul 16, 2024 10:10pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So you pay to start calibration and then same date every month. I (unintentionally) started like 2nd week of June, so got lucky the 15 days ended end of month and my DarwinIA was created right on July 1 giving me a full month to max out my rating and get higher allocation. Silver starts when DarwinIA is created after 15 day calibration. DarwinIA is only created on Mondays. However, if your 15 days is up on a Tuesday, you may trade and it will all all count towards your DarwinIA quote If you end calibration towards end of month, not as much...
No worries, thanks for the clear explanation. Much appreciated. Will do a zero soon, by month end most likely. Will keep that Monday creation rule in mind.
Cheers...
  • #39,400
  • Jul 16, 2024 10:15pm Jul 16, 2024 10:15pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So Silver and Gold run on calendar months. As stated above, I luckily started 2nd week of June, so 15 days lined up with end of month. This gives me all of July to max out rating and allocation. I will get allocation end of month so I begin earning in August. Each allocation lasts 3 months and you can manage 3 simultaneously. So, for example, you qualify for 30k euro each month, by 4th month you are actually managing 90k euro. I believe, 8th month, you qualify for gold and these allocations last 6 months and you are opened up to investors...
Here is an example of the top silver, he is projected to get 375K euro this month (until I take him out). He got 375k in May and 65k last month, so he currently is managing 440K euro, if he stays number 1 this month, he will manage 815K euro in August.
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