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  • #23,241
  • Sep 29, 2023 8:59pm Sep 29, 2023 8:59pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I don't need to look @ that thread, I know the requirements & what I'm getting into... as I mentioned, the system avoids their main trap.
Agreed, Aptero also has a 30 day minimum trading days. That. Fugg that.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #23,242
  • Sep 29, 2023 10:09pm Sep 29, 2023 10:09pm
Anyone used Smart Prop trading.. any satisfied customer here. There challenge prices are cheap i want to buy one now. Need some confidence boast from here. Whats the consensus?????
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #23,243
  • Sep 29, 2023 11:02pm Sep 29, 2023 11:02pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} “On-Demand Payouts Your money, when you want it. With Apteros, request your profits whenever you deem fit. It's all about giving you control over your finances.”
probably recent update welcome that.
But mandatory meeting every day, trade review need to be submitted every day and monthly goal meeting with Merrit ..all these sounds kinda school environment.
Maybe for a developing trader apteros can be good option.
Monthly fees 500 involved as well.
on a postive roll...
  • #23,244
  • Sep 30, 2023 12:14am Sep 30, 2023 12:14am
Quoting montygoldy
Anyone used Smart Prop trading.. any satisfied customer here. There challenge prices are cheap i want to buy one now. Need some confidence boast from here. Whats the consensus?????
avoid its blakes
  • #23,245
  • Sep 30, 2023 12:25am Sep 30, 2023 12:25am
Quoting Rmg
{quote} probably recent update welcome that. But mandatory meeting every day, trade review need to be submitted every day and monthly goal meeting with Merrit ..all these sounds kinda school environment. Maybe for a developing trader apteros can be good option. Monthly fees 500 involved as well.
Have to attend daily meeting, have to write daily review, pay MONTHLY fees 500$ to get a drawdown of 2400$.

Apteros is looking for idiots to buy their challenge.
  • #23,246
  • Sep 30, 2023 12:40am Sep 30, 2023 12:40am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} 1. Yes it works. I use ImDisk app. I dedicate 12 gigs total, Im running 64gb on my rig. {image} 2. I have the RamDisk synced using the FreeFileSync application. Supposedly the ImDisk can backup automatically but not certain of the reliability. I need more control to move Instances in and out. {image} 3. Every boot I load from Backup to RamDisk, periodically thru the day will sync Ramdisk to backup folder.
even though the metatrader is installed in RAM DISK but still its data installing, reading and writing on local disk
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  • #23,247
  • Sep 30, 2023 12:53am Sep 30, 2023 12:53am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} even though the metatrader is installed in RAM DISK but still its data installing, reading and writing on local disk {image}
okay.. to do that, you have to create shortcut of the terminal and change its properties and in "target" set "
"RAM DISK DRIVE:\MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe" /portable
and boom.. problem resolved
  • #23,248
  • Sep 30, 2023 2:29am Sep 30, 2023 2:29am
Quoting Rmg
Ignored me, so quickly. How you can become a trader with such a fragile ego. Sorry for you TrAndy.
His behavior in this thread is in big contrast with the character someone would expect to have after achieving those things he claimed.

The dissonance is there to observe and I don't blame you all for noticing.
  • #23,249
  • Sep 30, 2023 2:41am Sep 30, 2023 2:41am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Nah. But I'm scum so I'll fit in with Maven BTW, what's this all about? Never noticed that before {image}
just another child under estimating their tax residence status and the over arching laws that discuss operation of a business location before the domicile of that company. But it’s part and parcel of these idiots.

I have some information I wish was public but promised not to share. But most of these prop firms should be avoided like the plague. Stick to ftmo and 5ers if you want to trade props. Ignore the rest, literally all of them.
  • #23,250
  • Sep 30, 2023 3:52am Sep 30, 2023 3:52am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} just another child under estimating their tax residence status and the over arching laws that discuss operation of a business location before the domicile of that company. But it’s part and parcel of these idiots. I have some information I wish was public but promised not to share. But most of these prop firms should be avoided like the plague. Stick to ftmo and 5ers if you want to trade props. Ignore the rest, literally all of them.
ACG too? We talked about the good ones being ftmo, ,5ers, acg, fxify and trading pit (tho fxify seems to have some problems rn with payouts if I understand correctly)
  • #23,251
  • Sep 30, 2023 3:52am Sep 30, 2023 3:52am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, I still have an account there. I've never had an issue, but they have done some shady things and everyone says they deny larger payouts. I still have a TFTP account and FTMO as well. The TFTP i stopped trading as I feel it's pointless at this time if I'm going to have to chase my payouts.
A possible strategy for TFT would be a an high risk one in a few trades so that it doesn't take you much time. The worse scenario is not being paid if you get to a payout (which is not much worse than not using the account)
  • #23,252
  • Sep 30, 2023 3:56am Sep 30, 2023 3:56am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} before you signup , have look at this thread https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threa...unding.368122/ better options www.earn2trade.com and the REAL DEAL in futures prop : https://www.apterostrading.com/prop-desk
People not US residents be careful to check tax stuff with www.earn2trade.com
It's not as easy as in other props.
  • #23,253
  • Sep 30, 2023 3:58am Sep 30, 2023 3:58am
Quoting Rmg
This is not just about fees vs DD. just my opinion.
It's not just fees vs DD but that's the starting point (and disqualifies any further analysis if it's low)
  • #23,254
  • Sep 30, 2023 4:03am Sep 30, 2023 4:03am
Quoting Tobiazzek
{quote} ACG too? We talked about the good ones being ftmo, ,5ers, acg, fxify and trading pit (tho fxify seems to have some problems rn with payouts if I understand correctly)
If you max out the other two then you have enough money to waste elsewhere
  • #23,255
  • Sep 30, 2023 4:11am Sep 30, 2023 4:11am
Just to clarify, props with trailing stop need a completely different approach. We are not just trading but also gaming their rules.

The right way to approach them is to have high risk bets and withdraw all when succeeding (causing the account to be violated because we hit the trailed stop).
Doing this once, twice, three times will lead people to be banned.
Not doing this means that trailing stop will trail until the starting point. From that moment people are only trading their own profits but not getting 100% of that.
  • #23,256
  • Sep 30, 2023 4:15am Sep 30, 2023 4:15am
From a layman perspective, the5ers looks solid, and the facts that they are an old player in the industry. But why not so many people flocks to buy their programs? What's avoiding them?
  • #23,257
  • Edited 4:43am Sep 30, 2023 4:21am | Edited 4:43am
Quoting ladder
{quote} Have to attend daily meeting, have to write daily review, pay MONTHLY fees 500$ to get a drawdown of 2400$. Apteros is looking for idiots to buy their challenge.

drawdown of $4000 , not $2400 ..

every pro trader reviews his trades , has a logbook to pinpoint errors that should not be repeated

$500 montly fees ( apteros does NOT make money on those ) to get pro commissions of $1.2 instead of $4

you can also start out with normal retail commisions and lower monthly fees but still have to pay for pro exchange fees of about $100/exchange
  • #23,258
  • Sep 30, 2023 4:48am Sep 30, 2023 4:48am
Quoting Jay3ast
From a layman perspective, the5ers looks solid, and the facts that they are an old player in the industry. But why not so many people flocks to buy their programs? What's avoiding them?
program sucks. I am not interested in them because I find the owner to be a big liar and I’d rather not trade prop than give money to them
  • #23,259
  • Sep 30, 2023 4:58am Sep 30, 2023 4:58am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} drawdown of $4000 , not $2400 .. $500 montly fees ( apteros does NOT make money on those ) to get pro commissions of $1.2 instead of $4 you can also start out with normal retail commisions and lower monthly fees but still have to pay for pro exchange fees of about $100/exchange
60% profit split, 4000*60%=2400

'$500 montly fees ( apteros does NOT make money on those )'
Seriously？For 100K account with only 4k total drawdown, you have to trade very small (max 2 futures contracts, I suggest only 1 contract), how much would you save on commissions per month？

You need to earn 250% to pass the challenge(10K target versus 4k drawdown). How long would it take for you to earn 250%? One year? Then you need to pay 500*12=6000$. And with all the effort, time and 6000$, you finally get a drawdown of 2400$.

This thread becomes so hot that many garbage prop firms come here to promote their firms.
  • #23,260
  • Sep 30, 2023 5:22am Sep 30, 2023 5:22am
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I don't need to look @ that thread, I know the requirements & what I'm getting into... as I mentioned, the system avoids their main trap.
let me guess, you like the payout system of Apex..

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