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  • #41
  • Feb 21, 2021 11:37pm Feb 21, 2021 11:37pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} For starters I am not anti-prop. My 2 posts illustrates the math. One step back, The5ers is not the prop shop you think they are. It's a pyramid system company and traders are not prop traders. Imv. Does it matter though if you actually trade real investors funds? No, so long as you got paid more than you pay. When you claim you can attain 1175% returns within 14 month, thats got nothing to do with The5ers. It's a cocky claim that try to put down other members to show your superior standing, the same imaginary superior stand you have as...
Can you point to the post where I ever claimed to be a great trader? Unless you consider 2-3% monthly great? Once again, I will be making returns of 7,10,10,10,10, approx 47% to attain what I said I will do, a far cry from 1175%. Once again, you are comparing the DD of the 5%ers with THE ENTIRE BALANCE of the personal account. What is not clear here? Taking a 20K account with the 5%ers to 1.28 million requires 47% gain. I do not care about anything else, other than the simple task of 47% gain to acquire a 1.28 million dollar asset which I am capable of making 2-3% monthly without exceeding 4% DD. This will pay me 12-18K per month. Period. End of story.
  • #42
  • Feb 22, 2021 12:24am Feb 22, 2021 12:24am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Can you point to the post where I ever claimed to be a great trader? Unless you consider 2-3% monthly great? Once again, I will be making returns of 7,10,10,10,10, approx 47% to attain what I said I will do, a far cry from 1175%. Once again, you are comparing the DD of the 5%ers with THE ENTIRE BALANCE of the personal account. What is not clear here? Taking a 20K account with the 5%ers to 1.28 million requires 47% gain. I do not care about anything else, other than the simple task of 47% gain to acquire a 1.28 million dollar asset which...
In order to earn 100% yearly with own money it requiires to expierence DD 20-30% at least once. That means risk/reward ratio (not for 1 trade but for whole trading journey) 1:5 in best case or 1:3 in normal case.

Target 47% yearly means to expierence 9% to 15% drawdown at least once in 1 year. You can qualify at prop firm for several months. But eventualy such restrictions/expectations is not realistic in long run. It is not a simple task to earn yearly 47% with dd no more than 4%. If that would be simple then we could see a lot TEs with examples.
  • #43
  • Feb 22, 2021 12:52am Feb 22, 2021 12:52am
Quoting OutThere
The usual methods of fundraising for a trader are as follows: 1- Use your own funds. You may have save up from working, from other investments or basically from mom and dad (inheritance). 2- Bank loans or any other loans. 3- Friends and family. 4- A prop firm with all sorts of entry requirements and rules. 5- Got hired as a trader with a salary and clauses on profit sharing and bounces. 6- Advertisements attracting investors (very risky). Any more ways? That's all I can think of right now. There is one more way and that's what I am going to discuss...
This is what i call logical reasoning
  • #44
  • Feb 23, 2021 1:32am Feb 23, 2021 1:32am
Alright Nice Stuff OutThere

Would like to know Is this Thread regarding providing funds to trade to a proven trader. Because I can prove it. I have accounts of Clients --- currently I have 3 Clients but I want to increase my Clientele so that I can Trade larger sums. I have my own account too but last time I published it to draw customers/clients--- the idea got leaked so I removed everything from all sites --- my own that is and it was hard to block that person from reselling/reusing/duplicating the idea but I managed to do it.

Anyway I can post the Accounts here --- the links of it I mean and also I can put up a Demo on ForexFactory showing the Startegy Performance for 3 months or more. I dont want to put the real account on FF because there are some smart people where the idea gets leaked.

Anyway if this is a fund trading thing for traders then I can prove some.

Haha Alright See You

Nice Thread OutThere

Ok See You
  • #45
  • Last Post: Feb 23, 2021 4:04am Feb 23, 2021 4:04am
Quoting TrTT
Alright Nice Stuff OutThere Would like to know Is this Thread regarding providing funds to trade to a proven trader. Because I can prove it. I have accounts of Clients --- currently I have 3 Clients but I want to increase my Clientele so that I can Trade larger sums. I have my own account too but last time I published it to draw customers/clients--- the idea got leaked so I removed everything from all sites --- my own that is and it was hard to block that person from reselling/reusing/duplicating the idea but I managed to do it. Anyway I can post...
Thanks.
Not really. It is not about providing funds to trade to a proven trader.
It is about a fun and creative way of raising funds for yourself to trade with.
The only person you have to prove your trading skills to, is yourself.
I don't know what good would posting your account results do.

In this thread, the way I have talked about raising funds, the clients (the ones buying the paintings) don't even know you are a trader. let alone know about your trading record. The trading and the selling paintings are 2 separate things. You could be a painter for your hobby side and a businessman who imports goods for example or you could be a surgeon. The buyer of your painting does not need to know about your job or how you earn your money. They just need to make sure that they get paid the extra sum upon returning your painting.

If the client gets what is promised, I am sure everything will be alright but if they get stiffed, then the law will in fact connect the trading to the selling of the paintings and most likely you will be called a scammer selling worthless items in order to fund your habit of trading/gambling.

Now, if you can come up with other creative ways to raise funds (without breaking the law) then that is a contribution.
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