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  • Trump signs $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill as the US tries to prevent economic devastation

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    video President Donald Trump signed a $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill on Friday, as Washington tries to blunt economic destruction from the pandemic ripping through the United States. The House earlier passed the stimulus package, believed to be the largest in U.S. history, by voice vote, which simply measures if more lawmakers shout for “aye” or “nay” on whether to support it. The chamber scrambled Friday to block an effort to delay its passage. Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., tried to force a full yes or no vote on the measure, which could have pushed back its approval by hours. Irritated House members ... (full story)

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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 7:21am — Edited
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First -wheres your heart don't you have parents
Second- it doesn't have to stay that way just like Spanish flu on the second wave, it gets you next maybe.
Third- unhindered 500 thousand becomes 1 million in 3+ days then carry on with that formula to get the final number -only limited by population in a short time. Length of immunity is unknown. Expansion gets worse the less you intervene.
Fourth -recovered isn't 100% necessarily forever or a long time. The higher the infection rate the high chance of random mutation -roll the dice which way.
Finally, there are methods that could make this go away right now. Lockdown is part of that, then high testing.
also Time =development of drugs, or other means to stop it or help. Maybe the weather.

Just leave the ill at home basically is your policy, hope you make it guys...my job and income are ok.

That's the logic in a nutshell against silly skimming of statistics like that.
BTW the death rate goes much higher when medical is overrun or as you propose would be non-existent very fast.
20% of everyone infected are critical care patients, you draw down on resources for weeks when in hospital.

*From September through November of 1918, the death rate from the Spanish flu skyrocketed. In the United States alone, 195,000 Americans died from the Spanish flu in just a month October And unlike a normal seasonal flu, which mostly claims victims among the very young and very old, the second wave of the Spanish flu exhibited what’s called a “W curve”—high numbers of deaths among the young and old, but also a huge spike in the middle composed of otherwise healthy 25- to 35-year-olds in the prime of their life.
“That really freaked out the medical establishment, that there was this atypical spike in the middle of the W,” says Harris




Quoting michaelpelly
People got really into this. Official death statistics from Italy (attached). Under 20 deaths (60+ million population) of people under 40. 85% are above 70 and 80 with 2, 3 or 4 prior serious medical conditions. Only 3 (three) persons died under 40 with no previous pathology. These are the dry facts. The word “pandemic” is not appropriate - this is not a plague or cholera with 30-40% mortality rate. As cynical as it might sounds - in order to save some old pals that barely breath in normal conditions - I have to endure 3-5 years economy stagnation....
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 7:54am — Edited
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the virus-docks to the ACE2 receptor which are in other areas of the body including the heart & liver.
the ideal virus home is the
*Lung alveoli
Alveoli are tiny air sacs in your lungs that take up the oxygen you breathe in and keep your body going. ... You have about 480 million alveoli, located at the end of bronchial tubes. When you breathe in, the alveoli expand to take in oxygen. When you breathe out, the alveoli shrink to expel carbon dioxide

*4 Mar 2020 - Liver impairment has been reported in up to 60% of patients with SARS ... Given the expression of the ACE2 receptor

Quoting TraderTero
The coronavirus can damage the heart, even in people with no history of heart disease, new research suggests — showing it doesn't affect only the lungs: https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...213100488.html
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 8:51am
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Quoting Bones
Make the invisible enemy visible by super high testing is my answer, test everyone in a short space of time....

We're talking peanut $ compared to what's happening.
Respect.
Your humanity and foresight is great Bones

But in normal (that means very crooked world) you are wrong.

They (our masters political animals) don't care.
Oh yes, think about it. Empty pension funds?? Yes...
OLD People dying....OLD PEOPLE....

Second - not enough test kits. No gloves, no tents...

And expensive. Big pharma 🤔💰💰  Duhhhhhh?

Sooooo not very good prospects. If you think about all aspects.🐒
And never, ever, believe these television monkey liars!
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 9:16am — Edited
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They're not prepared when you take what was happening in China in January.
It's mind-boggling they never locked down flights from China despite what we witnessed with the sleight of hand many diggers in row pictures and withholding information; when its the actions that spoke so loudly.
If China locks down the equivalent to the Uk population overnight, then logic says China has to be lockdown until proven otherwise. Later that's what will happen in any country.
That's, not hindsight.
Trump was right about blocking China flights, but that needed the worldwide lockdown of China. I'm not sure of the timeline of that restriction to its effectiveness now...all I know is at that time he claimed 15 would go to zero infection and it would go away like a miracle.
He failed so many other pieces of the puzzle. His failures far outweigh that one action which will be seen in the real world as disease development. They continue to this day talking about opening-up for Easter when he hasn't even completed the main policy 14 days to stop the spread. You can't have that level of mixed messaging at all. Obviously that 14-day policy won't work out already, come due date.

I think you're probably right in some quarters.

Quoting Not-KPMG
{quote} Respect. Your humanity and foresight is great Bones But in normal (that means very crooked world) you are wrong. They (our masters political animals) don't care. Oh yes, think about it. Empty pension funds?? Yes... OLD People dying....OLD PEOPLE.... Second - not enough test kits. No gloves, no tents... And expensive. Big pharma  Duhhhhhh?...
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 7:24pm — Edited
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When hospitals overrun, let us say it takes 7 days to kill on average.

Note -
The other variables are
How many have been actually infected=death rate down. Who thinks you have it and not know?
Could take longer to kill than 7 days from the test on average.=death rate up.
There's a time lag to lockdown benefits up to 4 weeks due to illness length.
It could be a worse stain.
You won't get this 20% number down anywhere near 2.5% however you juggle it in all reality.
Add the collateral damage to others in need of medical care in a stretched system.

*Spanish flu had a 2.5% death rate killing 50-100 million worldwide on a much lower population.

Conclusion =this is a very dangerous virus with plenty of potential to be worse later.
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michaelpelly
Mar 28, 2020 1:29am
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People got really into this.

Official death statistics from Italy (attached).

Under 20 deaths (60+ million population) of people under 40.

85% are above 70 and 80 with 2, 3 or 4 prior serious medical conditions.

Only 3 (three) persons died under 40 with no previous pathology.

These are the dry facts.

The word “pandemic” is not appropriate - this is not a plague or cholera with 30-40% mortality rate.

As cynical as it might sounds - in order to save some old pals that barely breath in normal conditions - I have to endure 3-5 years economy stagnation.

And the irony is - even more elderly people will die from the fallout produced by this economic misery.

Where is the logic for the world to shutdown?!
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 8:16am
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it can only dock to the receptor but there are many other co conditions caused by the initial infection.
It's powerless if it doesn't meet the ace2

Quoting afevir
{quote} all the body
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 8:38am — Edited
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Make the invisible enemy visible by super high testing is my answer, test everyone in a short space of time.

You can carry this thing for many days without even knowing you're infected while spreading is a major issue.
{infectous incubation is comparably very long to other viruses}

We're talking peanut $ compared to what's happening.

Send n95 masks to everyone as back up should you feel any risk.

Get an accurate app out there,{WHO -centralised ?} monitor my movements during this outbreak. Let me know where it is.
Uk's not even giving locations to date.
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 8:18am
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Many viruses are out there and pass through human but there not designed for human.
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afevir
Mar 28, 2020 8:47am
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We are going to see how the markets collapse as soon as the cases of those infected by COVID-19 soar.
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 6:49am
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Why market red???

Because big holders sell... Because pension funds empty....

Because RICH know they can buy at 50% lower.
Dow Jones 10000.

Just saying
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 10:01am
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It's true... People... Politicians.... Didn't act as fast as should be.

Even us, little people were slow...

I knew stocks will crash-trash but never sold them.

I didn't buy few dozens hand-sanitizers....
Small errors.

But damn political animals should NOT make big errors....
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 10:02am
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Money paper topic

Think of it

According to a recent government news ...

A billion seconds ago Bush was president.

A billion minutes ago was about the time of Christ.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A billion dollars ago was yesterday at the U.S. Treasury.
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Bones
Mar 28, 2020 7:13pm
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So Italy's been shut for a few weeks, could you imagine how ugly this gets with no intervention whatsoever.
You need to forward think the risks to consider if the action has gone too far & not be so narrow-minded.
They lost 46 doctors already.
How high would it peak? if you carried on as before.
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Mingary
Mar 28, 2020 3:02am
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Quoting michaelpelly
People got really into this. Official death statistics from Italy (attached). Under 20 deaths (60+ million population) of people under 40. 85% are above 70 and 80 with 2, 3 or 4 prior serious medical conditions. Only 3 (three) persons died under 40 with no previous pathology. These are the dry facts. The word “pandemic” is not appropriate - this is not a plague or cholera with 30-40% mortality rate. As cynical as it might sounds - in order to save some old pals that barely breath in normal conditions - I have to endure 3-5 years economy stagnation....
It's as if the whole world decided to press the "reset" button.
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afevir
Mar 28, 2020 5:04am
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wow.
We are following in the footsteps of China, the great difference is that today despite what they are publishing, their economy is very bad, sir.
Trump does not seem to know that after his calculation of money to grant, it is very possible that he will have to increase it because nobody knows the exact period that this crisis will last, do they have so much money for this unforeseen situation?
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afevir
Mar 28, 2020 8:11am
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Quoting TraderTero
The coronavirus can damage the heart, even in people with no history of heart disease, new research suggests — showing it doesn't affect only the lungs: https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-damage-heart-even-people-213100488.html
all the body
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Banditten
Mar 28, 2020 1:38pm
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Quoting Bones
First -wheres your heart don't you have parents Second- it doesn't have to stay that way just like Spanish flu on the second wave, it gets you next maybe. Third- unhindered 500 thousand becomes 1 million in 3+ days then carry on with that formula to get the final number -only limited by population in a short time. Length of immunity is unknown. Expansion gets worse the less you intervene. Fourth -recovered isn't 100% necessarily forever or a long time. The higher the infection rate the high chance of random mutation -roll the dice which way. Finally,...
I can only speak for myself as a danish citizen. We were one of the first countries to close down. We are all isolated more or less. But we ære
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diky
Mar 28, 2020 8:02am
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But djia index already gap down, and we see more down side on moday. Lets we see it
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BiteFX
Mar 28, 2020 4:26am
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Dollar weakens the more....
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 6:47am
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Red stocks.

Obviously

Wait next crash..... Next disgusting free money....

I did this "bill poster" months ago.....
Who's laughing now? 👏👏👏
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 6:51am
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This


I did this "bull poster" months ago.....
Who's laughing now?
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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 7:02am — Edited
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And the monkey 🤔👏👏

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Not-KPMG
Mar 28, 2020 8:54am
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The Sheeple
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Not-KPMG
Mar 29, 2020 1:34pm
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Quoting asmadi78
Eurusd ,Gbpusd big gap down tomorrow
Pound obviously.

Why Euro???
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Bones
Mar 29, 2020 2:44pm
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eur gbp weekly
Quoting Not-KPMG
{quote} Pound obviously. Why Euro???
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Bones
Mar 29, 2020 2:45pm — Edited
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he's wrong, hasn't even provided any reasoning, stupid post
look cable weekly omg
maybe a gap down ,maybe retrace
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Bones
Mar 29, 2020 2:57pm
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bearish ,double top
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asmadi78
Mar 28, 2020 8:39pm
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Eurusd ,Gbpusd big gap down tomorrow
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TraderTero
Mar 28, 2020 7:48am
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The coronavirus can damage the heart, even in people with no history of heart disease, new research suggests — showing it doesn't affect only the lungs: https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-damage-heart-even-people-213100488.html
Trader#3471
Mar 28, 2020 3:44am
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Italy
Coronavirus Cases:
86,498
Deaths:
9,134
Recovered:
10,950
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
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