US still awaiting Iran response as of early afternoon Sat: Axios

Yes, to you nothing is worse than US and you fully support the evil empire of the mullahs.

If you can't read, I can see how you might think that.

Never read anything negative about the regime by you but 100% negative about US. You might as well be an Ayatollah regime representative.

Probably because I don't know anything about the regime except that the US put them in power and they thrive on instability.

So those who support US actions are obviously supportive of the regime. You can talk bad of them all you want, but they have you to thank for their power.

You make martyrs of them to be revered, cause the people to rally around the regime and against the great satan, cause the people to blame all hardship on the great satan. You may as well send them a box of AKs and fruit basket with card saying "with love from canada".

"because I don't know anything about the regime"

Then I guess you should refrain from commenting on the current war because you are missing at least half the picture as per your confession.

I don't know what the regime does or does not do, but I know the US gov put them in power because declassified documents say so. And I know instability empowers them because the University of Maryland says so via their extensive research in Iran, and because it's just human nature to not cave to coercion, but rally about a government when it's being attacked by a foreign power.

you should let him speak to himself as he typically does

I don't know what tangent you are forcing the conversation to go towards.

Everything just gets deflected to how badly you think of US and how much you disapprove of US and in particular Trump and added no less all the history of how bad US has been.

Ok, so that's your schtick here on the forum. I get it.

At the same time, you know all about the history of the US badness with other countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc. You recall at times exact events and turns and twists and details all sorts of historical conflicts involving US.....

BUT suddenly, you just don't know anything about this regime in Iran? You just don't know what it does? Like it's a mystery that's best to stay away from unless it help bash US on its head....

I think you are pro level.

It does what it does, the same thing when you toppled Allende for a dictator that used to load up planes of students that opposed and had “dangerous” ideals to then throw them out of the airplane… when it’s your guys you don’t say nothing. The same thing when the shah executed people via SAVAK, that too. America’s resume is filled with toppling and instability, now enjoy that in your own country.

The irony is incredible too, how much do you get paid per post? You only appear when irans topic is afloat… you ungrateful mossad controlled bloodthirsty unhuman piece of filth

I thought I had been very consistent with my claim that the US causes instability, funds and arms rebels to overthrow legit governments to install puppet regimes all over the world to either control oil or prevent communism.

You blame the instability on the puppet regime that the US put in place. You have it backwards like when I was 5 and looking out the window and thinking the angry trees where making the wind blow.

After the Persians conquered Greek citystates, they picked a Greek to be a puppet king, and the Greeks called such leaders tyrants (tyrannos). Now we are doing the same to the Persians.

This is not a righteous war. It is a selfish war to cause instability to install a puppet government to secure oil under the pretense of helping the poor Iranians to sell it to the masses.

Bla blah blah US is bad, terrorists are good. Got anything new to say?

Ya poor Iranians that are stuck with some asshole cultists stealing all their money to fund their stupid religious wars. You one don't give a shit about poor Iranians especially that by your own admission you don't have a clue what the Iran's terrorists are doing.

His argument always equates to him agreeing that the US is bad. He’s wasted breath.

Iran have relied on the US/Israel not taking decisive action while they manage or control instability for its own survival.

This war is Iran's bridge too far....

What's more, Iran now knows this action can be repeated.

Yes, unfortunately the hammer has softened it's blow. Someday regret will set upon those too complacent to actively uproot the invasive species of Iran's Mullahs

What action can be repeated? In November everything comes to a screeching halt.

This war is analogous to Hitler attacking Russia before winter because he couldn't delay another year lest Russia get too powerful (they already were too powerful, as it turned out). Trump, er, I mean, Yahu knew that only so much time remained until the midterms when his puppet's presidency effectively ends, so if he were ever going to attack Iran, he knew he'd better hurry. Hence the sudden war.

Once dems take congress, and then a dem president, Yahu won't have another chance to attack Iran in his lifetime. So he has a few months to wrap it up, and Iran knows all they need to do is wait.

Another attack can be launched later without congress approval

Trump doesn’t lose the presidency if the Republicans lose the mid terms

Trump loses the money when he loses midterms, so unless bombs and troops are free, they can pull the plug.

And the 60 days is up, so he has 30 days to get out or get congress approval. He can argue the clock is paused, but he can only pause it a few times before he runs out of days.

He'll be mired in impeachment again, none of his appointments will be confirmed, no funding for anything. Yeah, his presidency is essentially over next year.

What is a Democrat President going to do if Iran continues its nuclear enrichment and refuses inspections and continues its hypersonic ballistic missiles program?

Same thing they do when anyone else does it.

So ignore it?

Same thing I do when my neighbors is stockpiling guns. Maybe I shouldn't trust him. Maybe the government should bust his door down and take all his guns and make him submit to inspections so I can breath easier.

So you think they might bust Iran's door down and force them to submit to inspections?

No. That seems to be what you want.

Ok, that's 3 replies you've given me and yet not 1 straight answer.

Then what did you mean by this:
"Same thing I do when my neighbors is stockpiling guns. Maybe I shouldn't trust him. Maybe the government should bust his door down and take all his guns and make him submit to inspections so I can breath easier".

Give me a straight question without leading me. What exactly do you want to know?

When my neighbors get guns I don't do anything, so yeah, I ignore it. It's ridiculous to unilaterally invade someone else's sovereignty to disarm them. The best thing is to make mutually beneficial relationships and be good neighbors.

How much more straight and direct question can you get than below?

“ What is a Democrat President going to do if Iran continues its nuclear enrichment and refuses inspections and continues its hypersonic ballistic missiles program?”

Where’s the ambiguity?

Be good neighbours while Iran states it wants to destroy Israel.

Yeah ok, that’s a major trick I’d like to see.

I directly answered it. What did Biden do? Nothing that I know of. Whatever Biden did is probably what a dem president will do. Why ask such a simple question?

Is Iran willing to destroy itself to destroy Israel?

Then When I asked “So ignore it?” why didn’t you simply say yes?

You do know that all democrat presidents have said they will never allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon right?

So what do you think they would do if Iran keeps enriching its uranium while preventing inspections?

Which was my original question

Did you miss this part of my reply "Whatever Biden did is probably what a dem president will do. Why ask such a simple question?"

We've never had a war with Iran before, so whatever dems did is probably what they'd do again. Israel has been claiming Iran is on the verge of nukes for decades and Trump is the first to go along with it. The implication is there is no credible threat and Trump was just suckered.

It's a high bar to claim Iran would destroy itself to destroy Israel, and they can't destroy Israel without destroying themselves. If they get nukes the big fear is that the US can't push them around anymore, and the hysteria about Israel is propaganda for the masses.

Ok fair enough.
I guess They were just talking tough when they said they would do whatever it takes to stop Iran from attaining nuclear weapons.

Who? Biden? No, Biden never lies lol

So you're posting and arguing because you've nothing to sell?

It's as if you're walking with your fly unzipped, and when people point and laugh, you say "why should I care if people are too blind to see that this is the new fashion."

You're right. If you don't care, then it doesn't matter.

Correction:
I post my analysis, Dumb asses see my post and start an argument.

Big difference.
In this case people walking with fly unzipped are laughing at mine being decent.

I don't give a damn what people think. Because I'm not a baby, I'm an adult who don't seek validations or "upvotes"



For example, have I replied to any of your independent post since our first argument? but you keep chasing me around Forexfactory. Baby move.
Talking About Upvote
s all the time.

Oh my, I'm not chasing you around, Narcissus. I've never once visited your profile to know where you go, and I couldn't care less.

I simply scroll through the posts for the day and there you are: selling the same baloney as 2 weeks ago, and still no one is buying. Yet somehow you still think it's the best baloney around!

You have no validation: neither in reason nor popularity. You evidently create your own little world where you're the only genius who can see. Classic narcissism.

Just today Trump rejected Iran's proposal because they have not conceded anything. 80 factories destroyed yada yada means nothing. Just like Vietnam and Korea: the US destroyed lots of stuffed and lost both wars.

What you're claiming has never been demonstrated in history, is not even sound in principle, and no one else agrees with you. It's as if you're arguing 2+2=5 and the problem is no one else can see it.

Why bro,

You're still proving my point, and trying to twist it to fit yours


"80 factories destroyed means nothing" my God!!

Okay, I agree

The only point you're making is you're likely not old enough to use this site.

It amazes me that all this information is at our finger tips and stupid people just go with what they are told. No idea how much MORE hatred they have caused by their actions. Like if it was them they would just cave? lol

Yeah, really, no one caves to ultimatums or coercion. Not even the god of the bible, in his own book, can make people repent.

"And the rest of the men, who were not killed by these plagues, yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold and silver, and brass and stone and of wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk;"

"And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God, who hath power over these plagues; and they repented not to give Him glory."

"and they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds."

Turtle if you were born in Cambodia you would be Buddhist. Think about that. God is the problem. I am sure you will not see it but if you were born in a different part of the world your religion would most likely be...different.

Actually, I'm probably closer to being Buddhist than anything. I am just what the universe is doing.

And Jesus, if he existed (but probably didn't), had a lot of Buddhist influence.

But my point was, in the bible where god can literally do anything (because he's a literary device, totally made up), he still couldn't make people surrender through punishment.

Cool thanks for sharing the texts. And explaining.

Are you for real? How have they been doing for the past 50 years? Selling oil. You think they will not sell oil now? China, Russia, N Korea will not support Iran? Do you actually think?

And for sure 110% every country on the planet wants a nuclear weapon now. Aggressor nations with Nuclear Weapons are Bombing the shit out of a country. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

The US gave Poland, Estonia, Finland, Hungary (Russia bordering enemies) Nukes.

You guys have been screaming your pants off about China Russia helping Iran.
Where were they during Venezuela?
What has they tangibly done for Iran apart from words?

Check Putin's speech last year, and this year Match, when he was asked why he haven't helped Iran.

His response will help You wake up from your slumber. Or maybe not.

Well done with just deflecting a bunch of bullshit my way. Again how will Iran not sell Oil? You say they will not have money. And you want to tell me about a slumber? You want to answer my question or just be a belligerent person?

You guys? Venzuela? Putin's speech? A corrupt leaders speech is the truth we need to follow? Is that like the ballroom will be paid for by me and my friends? Which you will deflect with that as well.

How will Iran never be able to sell oil? Enjoy your slumber oh ignorant belligerent one.

Oh my God,
Your brain didn't process any of that

Wow that is your retort? Are you emotionally still 12? Well done thanks for the heads up on the ignorance.