Trump's envoy to Greenland Landry: I don't think Trump is ready to seize Greenland | Metals Mine
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Nordling
Jan 6, 2026 2:49pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Let’s cut to the chase here : The US is absolutely petrified ( think sh*t scared )of China overtaking it as the global world power . NB : - It already has , they just haven’t received the memo yet
Production and exports wise, USA can never compete with China. Trying to compete in manufacturing against China is a lost cause.

However, USA still has the clear advantage of having a trusted financial market, banking system, democracy and individual rights. So even if a company prefers to open a factory in China, they still prefer to move their money and HQs to USA, for safety and stability. Bc in countries like China, tomorrow is never a guarantee. You'll probably remember the time Jack Ma disappeared for a few years after saying things China didn't wanna hear.

The path to success for USA and the West lies in the values that made them this advanced and strong in the first place. Democracy, individual rights and freedoms, stability, safety. These are the values that made USA and other big Western countries "appealing" for the rest of the world. They should stick with it, ensure they are still stable and safe, so they keep attracting the capital.

If they go Trump's way tho, like dreaming of becoming like China and turning into a fuckass dictatorship, the capital will leave the country fast for sure. And i doubt anyone will want to produce stuff in the US, considering there are cheaper options like China and India.

You just can't strong arm companies, corporates all the time. Putin tried that stuff and ended up losing billionaires like Abramovic. What happens if US stops being a safe haven, turns into a partizan country like Russia and China, and loses it's appeal for the billionaires and multi billion dollar companies? Well that would be a disaster.

It's better for Trump admin to accept the fact that China will stay as the manufacturing hub of the world, and the world's biggest exporter. And US on the other hand should preserve the values that made it a success and stay as the world's biggest finance & banking hub.

Otherwise US will be in big trouble. Not only losing at the manufacturing aspect but in the financial & banking aspect too. Which would be the actual downfall.
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Riziq-Cap
Jan 6, 2026 1:56pm
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What is the logic of seizing nato territory? China have expanded economic relations world wide without shooting one bullet, why cant yankeestan do the same?

The only logic I can think of is book imbalance, Greenland becoming US territory will save the dollar, it will add assets to the book-sheet, avoiding insolvency - partnership cant solve this, only seizure/theft.

I guess the crypto scam including stable coins are not buying enough treasuries.
The Fool
Jan 6, 2026 1:36pm
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Quoting Jr123
{quote} That's why we have Nukes. Even Canada could have nukes in a few weeks if we need them. Lots of nuclear material laying around. Get ready for Armageddon.
the lesson of the 20th century: you ain't no kind of country if you don't have nukes.
The Fool
Jan 6, 2026 3:19pm
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Quoting Nordling
{quote}USA still has the clear advantage of having a trusted financial market, banking system, democracy and individual rights. ...
All of that could be erased if the USA continues to embrace fascism. Zoom out and you can see it happening in real time, slow-mo. On my list of shocking new developments to watch for is the US defaulting on its massive debt.
Vancarbon
Jan 6, 2026 10:44am
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Quoting Trader#7BF0
I’d hate to live in countries incapable of defending themselves in the new world order. China, India, Russia, and US can just walk in and take over. They can just split up the rest of the world between them. Say goodbye to Australia, UK, EU, Canada, it was a mistake to spend all your money on immigration instead of defense.
Yeah , you’re on the ball . I mean what good are nuclear weapons as deterrents in the UK and France , with your intellectual prowess .

I bet you voted for Trump , call it a hunch
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Vancarbon
Jan 6, 2026 2:04pm — Edited
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Let’s cut to the chase here :

The US is absolutely petrified ( think sh*t scared )of China overtaking it as the global world power .

NB : - It already has , they just haven’t received the memo yet
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Nordling
Jan 6, 2026 7:41am
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Drumpff is playing the Danzig or War card like it's 1938. He is determined to start the ww3
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Nordling
Jan 6, 2026 3:40pm
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Quoting Riziq-Cap
{quote} Jack ma got inspired by US billionaires and wanted political power due to his wealth, he got fairly put in place. China is 1.3 billion population with 50 million bureaucrats - its a big line for political power. Abromovich made all his "billions" through distressed soviet assets that were sold basically free after its collapse, but he and Putin had pretty good relationship, Chelsea was sponsoring Gazprom until UK forced him to sell, due to his close relationship with Russian government. You are probably mixing the names, because...
Abramovich also got pushed out after Russia-Ukraine war broke out, they are not close with Putin anymore. They used to tho, like u mentioned. Abramovich is in Türkiye for a couple of years now, he is not returning to Russia since he stated that he is not supportive of the invasion of Ukraine.

It's telling a story how all these oligarchs and billionaires who used to side with Putin either fled the country or fled the world altogether If Trump madness keeps going on, probably a similar scenario awaits US and it's billionaires
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The Fool
Jan 6, 2026 2:19pm
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The U.S. operates around 750 military bases in roughly 80 foreign countries and territories. China has 1 (one) foreign military base, in Djibouti.
Vancarbon
Jan 6, 2026 2:23pm
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Quoting The Fool
The U.S. operates around 750 military bases in roughly 80 foreign countries and territories. China has 1 (one) foreign military base, in Djibouti.
That’s military outposts .

Look at the economic strategy and manufacturing capabilities of China in comparison to the US . Look at the strategic initiatives, the geopolitical strategy and links .

China is the manufacturing hub of the world .

It’s a multi polar world ,not a unipolar world as the US would like it to stay
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Riziq-Cap
Jan 6, 2026 2:56pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Does anyone seriously think for a minute that when China invade Taiwan , the US is going to intervene ? Not a chance . China played hardball on tariffs , who folded ?
US hope to do the same as they are doing in Ukraine, through Philippines or Japan, but an Island is more difficult to support.

China played the 2019 Hong Kong episode pretty good, now they have sovereignty over Hong Kong, while its being "own system" which the Chinese gov uses to its advantage, even Macau was captured, until China regained it back, it also have special status now, with Chinese sovereignty.

Chinese historians and politicians are drawing parallels between izrahell and Taiwan, they called them both foreign military bases, one in the Arab world, the other in south China sea. Before Kissinger's re-rapprochement in the 80s, China was one of the biggest supporter of the Palestinians in arms!
MRjakel87
Jan 6, 2026 3:19pm
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Quoting Ferna
{quote} Donald Trump is the Wayne Gretzky of politicians! Truly the greatest of all time!!! You guys are just jealous he is going to the Hall of Fame as the greatest President in human history! The guy literally started with almost nothing and built an empire! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sb5jPsNPOg
Why do you support, that USA should invade another country that did nothing to USA and did nothing to their own citizen??

Trump says that USA needs Greenland for military security. Well...USA still have - and had for many years - a deal with Denmark, so that USA can do whatever ever they want with their military on Greenland. Trump just wanna invade Greenland for money or ego, or whatever. Invading another country, just because you can, is without any honour.
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Riziq-Cap
Jan 6, 2026 3:27pm
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Quoting Nordling
{quote} Production and exports wise, USA can never compete with China. Trying to compete in manufacturing against China is a lost cause. However, USA still has the clear advantage of having a trusted financial market, banking system, democracy and individual rights. So even if a company prefers to open a factory in China, they still prefer to move their money and HQs to USA, for safety and stability. Bc in countries like China, tomorrow is never a guarantee. You'll probably remember the time Jack Ma disappeared for a few years after saying things...
Jack ma got inspired by US billionaires and wanted political power due to his wealth, he got fairly put in place. China is 1.3 billion population with 50 million bureaucrats - its a big line for political power.

Abromovich made all his "billions" through distressed soviet assets that were sold basically free after its collapse, but he and Putin had pretty good relationship, Chelsea was sponsoring Gazprom until UK forced him to sell, due to his close relationship with Russian government.

You are probably mixing the names, because there were other billionaires that were pushed out by Putin, even killed, because they also wanted political power, so Putin seized/nationalized their stolen assets when they refused to play ball - all of them had basically stolen soviet assets when it collapsed. The assets were natural resources.

Western banking system have seized aka stolen so much money, its impossible to name every seizure here without writing 3-4 pages, heck even I have had my money seized by western banks, I am a nobody, no political affiliation and the money stolen from me are peanuts, not millions.

London still have tons of Libyan, Venezuelan +++ gold in its vaults, which it refuses to give back, US have Iraqi, Afghani, Iranian, North Korean, Russian +++ , EU have Iranian, Syrian, Libyan, Russian +++

This is the reason BRICS have traction, because western capitals have started stealing assets of governments and companies all over the world.

The competition is not some ideological thing, democracy vs authoritarianism. Its made up rules to justify theft.

Russia have had 300 billion now "frozen" since 2022, EU is taking up loans and using the frozen billions as guarantee and buying weapons to send to Ukraine - this is called legal theft.
Nordling
Jan 6, 2026 3:26pm
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}All of that could be erased if the USA continues to embrace fascism. Zoom out and you can see it happening in real time, slow-mo. On my list of shocking new developments to watch for is the US defaulting on its massive debt.
Yep sadly they are turning their backs to the values that got em here, it's a dangerous game they are playing, and it's a no brainer as well. Taking risks just to gain nothing
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Vancarbon
Jan 6, 2026 7:33am — Edited
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“ TRUMP'S ENVOY TO GREENLAND LANDRY: I DON'T THINK TRUMP IS READY TO SEIZE GREENLAND “

Not yet , too soon after Venezuela . However, make no mistake his intention is clear .

One country at a time, let the fog settle first and the media spotlight dim .
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Jr123
Jan 6, 2026 1:40pm
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}the lesson of the 20th century: you ain't no kind of country if you don't have nukes.
So sad, I had hoped the world was getting more civilized.
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Trader#7BF0
Jan 6, 2026 8:46am
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I’d hate to live in countries incapable of defending themselves in the new world order. China, India, Russia, and US can just walk in and take over. They can just split up the rest of the world between them. Say goodbye to Australia, UK, EU, Canada, it was a mistake to spend all your money on immigration instead of defense.
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Vancarbon
Jan 6, 2026 2:25pm
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Does anyone seriously think for a minute that when China invade Taiwan , the US is going to intervene ?

Not a chance .

China played hardball on tariffs , who folded ?
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Jr123
Jan 6, 2026 2:37pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Does anyone seriously think for a minute that when China invade Taiwan , the US is going to intervene ? Not a chance . China played hardball on tariffs , who folded ?
Taiwan supplies the world with semi conductors. The U.S. needs them desperately. China can wipe it all out before the first U.S. ships could arrive.

I doubt China has that as a plan unless they decide the U.S. is screwing up all there trade partnerships around the world.
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Trader#2978
Jan 6, 2026 10:36am
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Quoting Trader#7BF0
I’d hate to live in countries incapable of defending themselves in the new world order. China, India, Russia, and US can just walk in and take over. They can just split up the rest of the world between them. Say goodbye to Australia, UK, EU, Canada, it was a mistake to spend all your money on immigration instead of defense.
How's that going for Russia in Ukraine right now? Poohole Putin should be done in 100x lifetimes

China's cheap high-tech (hahahaha) military hardware was uber effective in protecting Venezuela.

Trump is picking on the weakest.

World is full of gutless wannabe hacks
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Jr123
Jan 6, 2026 12:08pm
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Quoting Trader#7BF0
I’d hate to live in countries incapable of defending themselves in the new world order. China, India, Russia, and US can just walk in and take over. They can just split up the rest of the world between them. Say goodbye to Australia, UK, EU, Canada, it was a mistake to spend all your money on immigration instead of defense.
That's why we have Nukes. Even Canada could have nukes in a few weeks if we need them. Lots of nuclear material laying around. Get ready for Armageddon.
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Trader#AAFC
Jan 6, 2026 7:02am
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Hear that? It’s all clear. It’s safe to come out now. There is nothing to worry about. No one wants to invade. It was all a joke. We didn’t mean it. We come in peace.

We were always at war with Greenland.
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