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DaJoWaBa
Oct 10, 2025 3:56am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} That’s a fair comment Daj . He’s a real marmite character is Donald , not your stereotypical politician, that appears to be his draw to a good percentage of Americans . Unorthodox and the rule book goes out the window . Not sure about Nobel Peace prize but if there was a global accolade for “ disrupter “ he’d be in a league of his own. Sometimes his linguistic skills and press interviews make me smile at the awkwardness, other times he’s a total fruit loop totally out of his depth . Then sporadically he...
Quite, I agree.
He and the world are complex bodies and people/critics/observers/supporters or opponents seek always to bring everything down to one right or wrong, one problem and one solution.

Currently, I am listening to a radio phone-in and nearly every individual comes at this with an agenda and prejudice, unable to consider what has to come together to achieve a result.

The result is key and the route to get there can be messy.

There's lots I dislike about Trump the individual, there's lots of policies I think are wrong but I can put those aside for a brief moment if this Ceasefire/Peace Deal results in a long-term solution, with a genuine peace the ultimate target and prize.
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DaJoWaBa
Oct 10, 2025 4:02am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}. I think you're missing the bigger picture. Too eager for the past missed calls on Trump. I believe it is the international backlash and the fact that the whole world started to turn on Israel, including all diplomats walking out on Netanyahu at the UN and the fact that Western countries accepted the Palestinian State that put pressure on Trump and Netanyahu to come to the table and halt the pointless bombing. It was Macron and Starmer who persuaded Trump he's on the wrong track and needs to adopt a different position. Trump merely seeks...
I get your point and I don't disagree that what you say will be a factor in all this.
However, I can't agree that it comes down to any one factor.
Time and a number of factors have to come together, including over-reach and exhaustion.

My great grandfather became Chief Administrator of Palestine after WW1, before Israel existed, and he was sacked after 6 months by the British Government for being too pro-palestinian. So, my family know full well how long this disastrous area of conflict has been going on.
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Vancarbon
Oct 9, 2025 4:21pm
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Congratulations Donald , genuinely , you got it done .

It’s a half way mark but you achieved what many others couldn’t . Let’s get Ukraine done now .

I’ll call Trump out for his BS and I’ll praise him for his achievements . Let’s hope this peace holds for all the Middle East
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Vancarbon
Oct 10, 2025 3:36am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}. I think you're missing the bigger picture. Too eager for the past missed calls on Trump. I believe it is the international backlash and the fact that the whole world started to turn on Israel, including all diplomats walking out on Netanyahu at the UN and the fact that Western countries accepted the Palestinian State that put pressure on Trump and Netanyahu to come to the table and halt the pointless bombing. It was Macron and Starmer who persuaded Trump he's on the wrong track and needs to adopt a different position. Trump merely seeks...
Well we’re all entitled to an opinion Nick and I respect yours .

All valid points and the rationale behind them is logical , however his MO is generally to come in hardball style and use leverage , be that in business or politics .

I gave him credit because he got it over the line and applied pressure to both sides , particularly Netanyahu , actually swearing at him ( by all accounts) . The US being the main backer of Israel militarily is the only one Israel listens to, not the UK or Europe.

I’m always an impartial observer and commentator on most subjects , adhering to one ( prefixed) standard blurs the lines. There’s elements of good and bad on most occasions nothing ( quite literally) is black and white .

Have a good day
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Vancarbon
Oct 10, 2025 3:43am
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Quoting DaJoWaBa
{quote} Pretty much my thoughts. Although his personal motive for a Nobel Peace Prize just feels wrong, I couldn't care less if it means there's genuine peace. It's a shame that it's taken another 9 months or so to get back close to what was on the table at the end of the last Presidency but then I guess it takes time to get to the point of exhaustion or for King Don to realise that he has actually to use the stick occasionally and is almost singularly in a position to do so.
That’s a fair comment Daj . He’s a real marmite character is Donald , not your stereotypical politician, that appears to be his draw to a good percentage of Americans .

Unorthodox and the rule book goes out the window . Not sure about Nobel Peace prize but if there was a global accolade for “ disrupter “ he’d be in a league of his own.

Sometimes his linguistic skills and press interviews make me smile at the awkwardness, other times he’s a total fruit loop totally out of his depth . Then sporadically he nails it and says what everyone’s thinking and knows to be true .

Absolutely no TDS syndrome from me, I’m free to comment on the side of common sense and truth ( as I see it )

Have a good day
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Vancarbon
Oct 10, 2025 4:09am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}I didn't say you're not entitled to you're opinion. I said your opinion is wrong.
“ I’m wrong “ in your opinion Nick .

That’s your opinion , which you’re entitled to .

“ People like me “ is a broad based generalisation. I’m as malleable as they come , a pragmatist in all walks of life. I’m no supporter of one side or another, the lines are blurred on every level .
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Vancarbon
Oct 10, 2025 4:44am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}That's the problem is that you're malleable (easily influenced). You go wherever the wind blows. You need to stand for something and stick to a set of principles; otherwise, the wind will carry you everywhere.
Well you’re not influencing me to change my mind, so that’s one wrong presumption .

Not sure anyone has ever said that to me before ( easily influenced ) , maybe the opposite, I’ll log it and take it as a reminder.

The alternate stance is there’s always different angles to perception, varying narratives and interpretations.
I’ll let you dwell on that .

Ponder and absorb.
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DaJoWaBa
Oct 10, 2025 1:11am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Congratulations Donald , genuinely , you got it done . It’s a half way mark but you achieved what many others couldn’t . Let’s get Ukraine done now . I’ll call Trump out for his BS and I’ll praise him for his achievements . Let’s hope this peace holds for all the Middle East
Pretty much my thoughts. Although his personal motive for a Nobel Peace Prize just feels wrong, I couldn't care less if it means there's genuine peace.

It's a shame that it's taken another 9 months or so to get back close to what was on the table at the end of the last Presidency but then I guess it takes time to get to the point of exhaustion or for King Don to realise that he has actually to use the stick occasionally and is almost singularly in a position to do so.
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Nick.
Oct 10, 2025 2:54am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Congratulations Donald , genuinely , you got it done . It’s a half way mark but you achieved what many others couldn’t . Let’s get Ukraine done now . I’ll call Trump out for his BS and I’ll praise him for his achievements . Let’s hope this peace holds for all the Middle East
. I think you're missing the bigger picture. Too eager for the past missed calls on Trump. I believe it is the international backlash and the fact that the whole world started to turn on Israel, including all diplomats walking out on Netanyahu at the UN and the fact that Western countries accepted the Palestinian State that put pressure on Trump and Netanyahu to come to the table and halt the pointless bombing. It was Macron and Starmer who persuaded Trump he's on the wrong track and needs to adopt a different position. Trump merely seeks to be the one claiming credit. Also, read the headline again. It doesn't mention Trump anywhere. This should have been resolved nine months ago if that was truly his aim. We all know what his original intention was. He stated it publicly with Netanyahu beside him. You don't give the aggressor credit for stopping the aggression. You're wrong on Trump again, and I just don't understand why people are so eager to jump on his wiener like that every chance they get. Is beyond me.
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Nick.
Oct 10, 2025 3:53am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Well we’re all entitled to an opinion Nick and I respect yours . All valid points and the rationale behind them is logical , however his MO is generally to come in hardball style and use leverage , be that in business or politics . I gave him credit because he got it over the line and applied pressure to both sides , particularly Netanyahu , actually swearing at him ( by all accounts) . The US being the main backer of Israel militarily is the only one Israel listens to, not the UK or Europe. I’m always an impartial observer and...
I didn't say you're not entitled to you're opinion. I said your opinion is wrong.
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Nick.
Oct 10, 2025 4:00am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Well we’re all entitled to an opinion Nick and I respect yours . All valid points and the rationale behind them is logical , however his MO is generally to come in hardball style and use leverage , be that in business or politics . I gave him credit because he got it over the line and applied pressure to both sides , particularly Netanyahu , actually swearing at him ( by all accounts) . The US being the main backer of Israel militarily is the only one Israel listens to, not the UK or Europe. I’m always an impartial observer and...
And don't you think the day is a bit sceptical?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1l80g1qe4gt

A con will always be a con, and people like you will always fall for him. I don't think you've figured him out yet, that's all.
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Nick.
Oct 10, 2025 4:30am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} “ I’m wrong “ in your opinion Nick . That’s your opinion , which you’re entitled to . “ People like me “ is a broad based generalisation. I’m as malleable as they come , a pragmatist in all walks of life. I’m no supporter of one side or another, the lines are blurred on every level .
That's the problem is that you're malleable (easily influenced). You go wherever the wind blows. You need to stand for something and stick to a set of principles; otherwise, the wind will carry you everywhere.
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Trader#C192
Oct 9, 2025 1:18pm
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... Pro-Palestinian Terrorists on social and news media outlets seem to want more blood, however. Pitiful excuses for human-beings, really...
Yup. That's always been pretty clear to all of us in da middle.

You watch, now we see:

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Same shit, different day.
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Schultz
Oct 10, 2025 6:44am
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I guess that the word surrender no longer exists.
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Trader#4758
Oct 9, 2025 1:12pm
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Errrrrrrrr, this is fucking...... Great News.

Pro-Palestinian Terrorists on social and news media outlets seem to want more blood, however. Pitiful excuses for human-beings, really.

Muchas trepidation. But a surprising win for The Big Don if it holds.
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Brilliantly
Oct 9, 2025 6:38pm
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Not so bad for the US President. let see if this will ACTUALLY be a cease fire or one of those BS talk about wanting peace but not really.
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dotzac007
Oct 9, 2025 1:17pm
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Kudos to JP Dr president professor Donald Trump
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Trader#FA5C
Oct 9, 2025 1:10pm
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congrats!!!
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Trader#0BB6
Oct 9, 2025 1:36pm
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Okay. What about Iran though? Also, Ukraine. EU seems eager to go to war against Russia.
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