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    Volodymyr Zelenskiy finds himself in an impossible bind: risk Donald Trump’s wrath or accept a quick deal to end Russia’s war in Ukraine by paying the disastrous price of ceding territory for vague security guarantees that could see Moscow come back stronger in a few years’ time. This is the existential dilemma confronting the Ukrainian leader as he travels to Washington for talks with the US president on Monday. Fresh off a summit in Alaska with Vladimir Putin that bypassed a ceasefire, Trump has left Zelenskiy little room to maneuver. The situation is made even more tenuous by the memory of his last visit to ... (full story)

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Shadowfx010
Aug 18, 2025 11:17pm
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I can say that, in the end, Zelenskyy was nothing more than a puppet in this war. He has not only lost a large part of his male population, but also territory and possibly approval as the leader of a nation. He only has two options: cede territory and return to peace, or see Ukraine disappear along with more of its population.
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Expo33
Aug 18, 2025 11:45am
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Quoting ismailcenk
Would trump give away part of US to putin? 100% no so he can't decide on behalf of Ukraine what to do in this situation besides we saw what putin did after he took over crimea, he said he would stop and the next thing we know putin is trying to invade whole Ukraine
He might if other countries were financing our protection.

The other option would be more dead bodies with no end in sight
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Expo33
Aug 18, 2025 12:41pm
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Quoting Trader#F47D
{quote} People fighting for their homeland never give up. History has proven that. That's why the US lost Vietnam , and both the Russians and the US lost Afghanistan. This war will end only when one side is truly beaten and my bets are on the underdog Ukraine. As per funding the war it is the world's best interest that Putin doesn't get his way. A precedent must be set.
Of course people will fight for their homeland but without financing their odds of winning our ZERO.

Cut your losses or get more body bags.
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Vancarbon
Aug 18, 2025 12:29pm
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Quoting Trader#F47D
{quote} People fighting for their homeland never give up. History has proven that. That's why the US lost Vietnam , and both the Russians and the US lost Afghanistan. This war will end only when one side is truly beaten and my bets are on the underdog Ukraine. As per funding the war it is the worlds best interest that Putin doesn't get his way. A precedent must be set.
A lot of historical truths in that statement . I’m not sure I fancy your odds on said outcome , however the sentiment is admirable.

It should be noted however , that such a bold statement in setting a precedent requires great risk , tenacity and fortitude . Every scenario has been strategically planned and has consequences.
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Schultz
Aug 18, 2025 11:57am
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Quoting ismailcenk
Would trump give away part of US to putin? 100% no so he can't decide on behalf of Ukraine what to do in this situation besides we saw what putin did after he took over crimea, he said he would stop and the next thing we know putin is trying to invade whole Ukraine
Well there is the small matter of Alaska. The sign reads "Alaska is ours". From 2022.
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AJR
Aug 18, 2025 1:14pm
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Quoting Expo33
{quote} He might if other countries were financing our protection. The other option would be more dead bodies with no end in sight

Surrender like the USA did after Pearl Harbour?
How about US bodies lost in Iraq? Were they good for the nation? How much did you earned for each dead or crippled bodie?

The actual POTUS would sell to an invasor, a part of the USA territory if he could get good money for him... For sure...
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BaliBoyz80
Aug 18, 2025 11:33am
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i think almost impossible to reach peace agreement in 1x meeting. Ukraine already all out in this war, need "soft" agreement for both Ukraine and Russia. still hope miracle happen and they will reach peace.
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Trader#BAA3
Aug 18, 2025 1:20pm
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Quoting Trader#F47D
{quote} People fighting for their homeland never give up. History has proven that. That's why the US lost Vietnam , and both the Russians and the US lost Afghanistan. This war will end only when one side is truly beaten and my bets are on the underdog Ukraine. As per funding the war it is the worlds best interest that Putin doesn't get his way. A precedent must be set.
Learn history, those lands that are occupied by russian did not belong to Ukraine before. Lenin joined Donbass to Ukraine and then Khrushchev joined Crimea to Ukraine, that is why these regions wanted to be independent from Ukraine, and locals do not fight against Russians; only Ukrainians from other Ukrainian regions fight. So it is very different from Vietnam and Afghanistan there were no Americans speaking English, while in Donbass majority speaks russians and consider themselves russians. President Trump is right to end this conflict.
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Schultz
Aug 18, 2025 11:47am — Edited
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I guess Trump won't have to go back to the US from Alaska if talks fail with Zelenskiy.
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ismailcenk
Aug 18, 2025 10:53am
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Would trump give away part of US to putin? 100% no so he can't decide on behalf of Ukraine what to do in this situation besides we saw what putin did after he took over crimea, he said he would stop and the next thing we know putin is trying to invade whole Ukraine
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Trader#F47D
Aug 18, 2025 11:55am
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Quoting Expo33
{quote} He might if other countries were financing our protection. The other option would be more dead bodies with no end in sight
People fighting for their homeland never give up. History has proven that. That's why the US lost Vietnam , and both the Russians and the US lost Afghanistan. This war will end only when one side is truly beaten and my bets are on the underdog Ukraine. As per funding the war it is the worlds best interest that Putin doesn't get his way. A precedent must be set.
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Trader#9C13
Aug 18, 2025 10:54am
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taco can go suck off putin
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Trader#91CF
Aug 18, 2025 2:31pm
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Shut up, silence will help you win this dirty game, don't take unfeasible options.
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Trader#CAF8
Aug 18, 2025 9:51pm
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No cards in anyones hands but Putin
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