Trump: Today we're doing 50% tariff on copper

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A good article on Trump's constant sense of "Victimcould". https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...id=hpmsn&ei=16

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Here's your left wing propagandist article writer. More excrement from the legacy media.

Jul 8, 2025 12:30pm

In 2023, the USA was a net importer of copper, with imports exceeding exports. Refined copper accounted for a significant portion of both imports and exports. Chile, Canada, and Peru were the primary sources of U.S. copper imports, while Mexico, Canada, and China were key destinations for U.S. copper exports.
Imports:
Major Sources:
In 2023, Chile, Canada, and Peru were the top three sources of U.S. copper imports, with Chile alone accounting for 51% of the total.
Types of Imports:
Refined copper constitutes the majority of imports, followed by copper wire and copper scrap.
Specific Products:
Refined copper is used in electrical wiring, plumbing, and electronics. Copper wire is used in power transmission, generation, and telecommunications, while copper scrap is recycled.
Exports:
Major Destinations: In 2023, Mexico, Canada, and China were the leading recipients of U.S. refined copper exports.
Types of Exports: The U.S. also exports copper ore and copper articles, with Mexico, Canada, and Japan being major destinations for copper ore.
Example: In 2023, Mexico received the largest share of U.S. copper ore exports.
Overall Trade Balance:
Net Importer:
The U.S. is a net importer of copper, meaning it brings in more than it ships out.
2023 Data:
In 2023, the U.S. exported $863 million of refined copper and imported $6.91 billion.

so we export the dirt and ore so other countries smelt it and pollute themselves while sending back wire and plumbing procucts back to us

hope this imbecile doesnt want america smelting and polluting our own country but who knows with the MAGATURD universe

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Jul 9, 2025 2:08am

Quoting OutThere

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{quote} Ya I got a kick out of the guy wanted by ICC for war crimes nominating his arms dealer for the Nobel peace prize. Comedy at it's best.

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Best of the day....

MisterWho

Jul 9, 2025 4:27am

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{quote} {image}Here's your left wing propagandist article writer. More excrement from the legacy media.

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Just by the looks, I already know how it moves its hands when talking

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Jul 8, 2025 12:09pm

United States' bilateral trade balance in copper ores and concentrates (HS260300) with key partner countries for calendar 2024, based on the most recent data from UN COMTRADE via WITS:

U.S. Copper Trade — 2024 (Copper Ores & Concentrates)
Exports from U.S. to countries (gross values, in thousands USD)

Mexico: 1,639,512.21

Canada: 542,659.92

China: 465,469.51

Other Asia (nes): 65,464.15

Spain: 46,081.59

Imports into U.S. from countries (gross values, in thousands USD) :
Mexico: 1,077,080.60

China: 1,067,301.76

Japan: 720,835.11

Canada: 538,504.74

European Union (aggregate): 79,354.68

Additional Context on Refined Copper
When considering refined copper imports into the U.S., the main sources for 2024 were Chile, Canada, and Peru:

Chile supplied approximately 51–65 % of overall U.S. copper imports depending on whether copper ores or refined copper is referenced

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Canada typically contributes around 17 %,

Peru about 6–7 %

Chile’s total export value to the U.S. in copper-related products was roughly USD 6.09 billion in refined copper alone for 2024

Summary
Mexico is the largest net export partner for U.S. copper ores and concentrates, with a surplus of approximately USD 562 million.

Canada is nearly balanced (+ USD 4 million).

The U.S. runs a deficit with China (~USD 602 million), Japan (~USD 721 million), and the European Union (~USD 79 million).

For refined copper imports, Chile, Canada, and Peru dominate the supply, with Chile alone accounting for over half of U.S. imports.

A Section 232 investigation is underway, potentially leading to tariffs on copper imports, which could reshape trade flows and partner balances in coming months

As domestic copper smelting capacity remains limited, any tariffs could drive both industrial costs and strategic shifts toward U.S. sourcing or recycling

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future911

Jul 8, 2025 12:18pm

Pumping and dumping markets like its a meme coin

Jotunnonus5

Jul 8, 2025 12:03pm

Quoting Luxyus

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bad news for top exporters like Chile and Peru, Indonesia, Brazil, Australia, Mexico and Canada

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Let's not forget Australia

Trader#A155

Jul 8, 2025 12:01pm

Man how come this pussy became president

Jul 8, 2025 12:59pm

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{quote} Absolute bull*hit. It is difficult but not as hard as you claim. Learn fundamentals, technicals and sentiment. Follow the data, and try to take the best trades possible. It is a difficult career but not that hard. It is a job just like any.

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Please don’t anyone listen to fake posts from fake people like this one. The firms at which people try to trade know exactly how many people try and how many fail. If you don’t have access to this data, you wouldn’t know.

If you are not making over $150k a year, every year, in net profit you are failing as a full time trader. Why? Because you could go get a job for $100k with benefits and security and that’s a much better deal for you and your family.

Anyone anywhere that says trading for yourself with your own money and making an actual good living, long term, isn’t really really hard, then they are ignorant or selling something.

Jul 8, 2025 2:20pm

Quoting Trader#833D

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{quote} Blah, blah, blah. Why would I go get a degree, when I can put $50,000 of my own money and make good income on that from my own home, in my own home office, and have been doing it for years. You are not guaranteed a good job with CPA anymore as AI is taking over, and in order for you to be in that field you must have some computer programming skills to be able to use AI. Stop spreading bull*hit here, and your attorney and opening accounts, and whatever nonsense you are spreading. I can show my portfolio, but I will not show it. I know that...

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When you have been in the professional trading industry for over 35 years, like me, then I’ll take your rambling nonsense with some sort of seriousness. Right now you sound exactly like the thousands of traders I’ve watched try and fail. Trading is fine for some people, I do it, I know others who do. But for everyone who makes a living trading, hundreds tried and failed. You would know all of this if you ever actually worked in the industry. If you are honestly successful, I can say without hesitation I’m happy for you. I like when people succeed. But stating false information for new traders like you do doesn’t help.

Jul 8, 2025 3:05pm

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{quote} I can say if Trump lowers the short end, the long end of the yield will go up; also, even though the Fed lowered rates, the long end went up. You know, where you would borrow money on the longer end. You, as a trader, don't think copper is an important commodity for inflation? or negative real rates =inflation? {image}

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When tnx goes over 4.6 I’ll pay attention, if it goes over and stays over 5 we have problems no doubt. Until then I can’t worry about something that might happen. Apart from protecting myself from devaluation as I’ve stated, but that’s an investment not a trade. I’ll always miss tops and bottoms because I wait for confirmation, but I also avoid the mistake of thinking I’m smart and the market isn’t. Made that mistake before.

Jul 8, 2025 4:11pm

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{quote} bones...i dont think i like u muscling in on my territory...im the original trump hating gangster.......i liked you better when you cheered for him to win the election LOL so take your medicine the only good thing is hes gona fuk up the foreign trumptards that cheered for him more than the domestic ones in usa they already dying in texas flooding cause him and musky gutted the national weather service that could have warned those people

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You are cheering on the death of innocent small children and using the proven lies of far left fake news outlets?

Seriously one of the most disgusting posts I’ve ever seen.

Anyone else here an inbred sociopath like Zebi who is happy about children dying?

Jul 8, 2025 1:13pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} I honestly wish I knew, I could definitely make money off of it if I did. Which tariffs , including copper, will actually be enacted long term, on whom, at what rate, who has exemptions, etc. But the markets are 100% clear in the their opinion. Maybe some slight inflation but no big deal. Other than copper nothing moved much on this. Not stocks, bonds, or currencies.

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Who knows what's coming down the line???

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Jul 8, 2025 1:24pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} No one knows, that’s what makes a market. Anyone who claims to know what any market will do is a billionaire or a liar lol. One tweet the other way and copper crashes. Have to be prepared for anything.

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copper went up 40% already this year, gold over 30%, silver 25%
and your talking like everything is normal.
How can you tell from bonds and stocks when they're being so manipulated?
Trump's talking about forcing negative real rates...
you're bellwether is not reliable

Jul 8, 2025 1:40pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Everything is normal in my life, finances, job, neighborhood, city, state, etc. I know you are predicting a big bad thing to hurt the US significantly. Maybe it will happen, maybe it won’t. It’s impossible to bet on black swan events. I watched traders go bankrupt in 1998 and 1999 telling everyone the nasdaq had to crash. They were eventually right, but they went bankrupt so who cares? Trading is timing, not general calls. If you are correct, then many indicators will shift, currently today, there is nothing to react to. Go sell everything...

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im not guessing anything, im talking facts

Jul 8, 2025 2:03pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} I see market prices as facts. Opinions of general issues like inflation, currency devaluations, tariffs, etc. are just that, opinions. If your opinions are in conflict with actual prices, that’s fine, you might someday be correct. However I base my decisions on actual prices. In the last 20 years how many days has the S&P 500 been above 6200? Drawn a downtrend in stocks or real estate, you can’t. Everything is fine today, everything was fine yesterday. Something big will have to occur for your prediction of very bad things...

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yeah but youre going to see very high inflation for a fact.

Jul 8, 2025 2:05pm — Edited

The stock market isn't the market to tell anything,
it's a totally fake market, especially under Trump.
How it ends is with a major crash, or it carries on because the US doesn't do enough to stop whatever caused the crash, kicking it into the long grass for another generation's job.
price is going to crash! real terms

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Quoting 35T

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{quote} How much and when? Show me your option trade on that fact. You will make a ridiculous amount of money on that option trade since no one in the world is pricing that in.

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Looking at the yearly price is very high and has a major wick to the downside, but nothing's real...
What's real is copper, which has gone straight up 40%; that's what you should be worried about.

Jul 8, 2025 2:58pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} As I’ve said here before, let me know when treasury yields spike, until then there is no trade on your opinion. You can’t name a time, just inflation will go higher than it ever has at some unknown date in the future, isn’t a tradable opinion. But I’ve also said we agree on fiat, it’s not something to ever hold. Own real things, not fiat currency. Then if inflation happens you are hedged against it. Most professionals in the US have most all their money in real things, real estate, stocks, commodities. These all go up as the dollar falls....

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I can say if Trump lowers the short end, the long end of the yield will go up; also, even though the Fed lowered rates, the long end went up. You know, where you would borrow money on the longer end.
You, as a trader, don't think copper is an important commodity for inflation?
or negative real rates =inflation?

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Jul 8, 2025 3:20pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} When tnx goes over 4.6 I’ll pay attention, if it goes over and stays over 5 we have problems no doubt. Until then I can’t worry about something that might happen. Apart from protecting myself from devaluation as I’ve stated, but that’s an investment not a trade. I’ll always miss tops and bottoms because I wait for confirmation, but I also avoid the mistake of thinking I’m smart and the market isn’t. Made that mistake before.

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only more QE can stop it

Jul 8, 2025 3:59pm — Edited

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Trump manipulated chart, slightly down this year, but probably bullish {image}

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bones...i dont think i like u muscling in on my territory...im the original trump hating gangster.......i liked you better when you cheered for him to win the election LOL

so take your medicine

the only good thing is hes gona fuk up the foreign trumptards that cheered for him more than the domestic ones in usa

they already dying in texas flooding cause him and musky gutted the national weather service that could have warned those people of all that rain

Jul 8, 2025 4:22pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} You are cheering on the death of innocent small children and using the proven lies of far left fake news outlets? Seriously one of the most disgusting posts I’ve ever seen. Anyone else here an inbred sociopath like Zebi who is happy about children dying?

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i never said i was happy....i dont blame the kids just their stupid ass parents that voted for trump...theyre the ones with their kids blood on their hands

the more retards that voted for him he gets killed especially during this hurricane season approaching will be better for us liberals

people wont know which direction the hurricane gona go and when their house gets destroyed FEMA wont be there to provide shelter or cleanup LOL

i hope you live in florida or texas 35T to enjoy what trump is gona do to you LOL

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Jul 8, 2025 4:33pm

A good article on Trump's constant sense of "Victimcould".
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...id=hpmsn&ei=16

Jul 8, 2025 4:48pm

Quoting OutThere

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A good article on Trump's constant sense of "Victimcould". https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...id=hpmsn&ei=16

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they so funny OT

these dickheads threatened civil war all of bidens term and now they crying and pissing their pants dems want one too LOL

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...aring-violence

Jul 8, 2025 5:18pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Which side all lives in big cities together with no guaranteed access to fresh water and food? Which side doesn’t own firearms and most are actually afraid of them. The military and leo will be at best, split on each side. It won’t be a war, it will be an extermination of one side without much effort. If that’s what you want, feel free.

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that food and fresh water in the rural south really worked for you last time in 1861 didnt it LOL

the south still a bunch of inbred ignorant farmers inxtead of like the indiustrialised liberal north

Jul 8, 2025 5:34pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Ask any military expert. Dems all live in the same place, with no access to essentials. Also they can leave anytime they want and go live in their choice of dozens of socialist countries. The right literally has nowhere to go. You would have to murder 175 million Americans to win. It’s a childish and stupid thing to even bring up. But I’m not surprised since you are an uneducated child that believes every lie you are told. The right would never start it because we believe in law and order unlike dems. But if you start it, you will be ended...

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hold on...theres a couple points i want to make about this post but i have to take a shit first so give me 20 minutes

Jul 8, 2025 5:49pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Ask any military expert. Dems all live in the same place, with no access to essentials. Also they can leave anytime they want and go live in their choice of dozens of socialist countries. The right literally has nowhere to go. You would have to murder 175 million Americans to win. It’s a childish and stupid thing to even bring up. But I’m not surprised since you are an uneducated child that believes every lie you are told. The right would never start it because we believe...

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you mean the military experts that havent won a war since 1946? oh wait...they did beat up an island called grenada in 1983 LOL

you believe in law and order you say?...you mean like you all demonstrated in your half ass putsch on Jan6th?

you would never start it?... than why did your side threaten civil war all of bidens term or was that just the same kind of bullshit you spew on these threads here?

Jul 8, 2025 5:57pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Ask any military expert. Dems all live in the same place, with no access to essentials. Also they can leave anytime they want and go live in their choice of dozens of socialist countries. The right literally has nowhere to go. You would have to murder 175 million Americans to win. It’s a childish and stupid thing to even bring up. But I’m not surprised since you are an uneducated child that believes every lie you are told. The right would never start it because we believe in law and order unlike dems. But if you start it, you will be ended...

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one more thing...

You are falling under the influence of social media curated by countries that hate you.

the reason the whole world hates us is because of outr continued support of a murderous genocidal ashkenazi zionist regime...they have about as much right to that land as my polish catholic ass does....the most wanted war criminal in the world is at the trump white house while there arrest warrents waiting to be served on his ass....the palestinian children jews are starving to death arent hamas members

Jul 8, 2025 9:59pm

Quoting Trader#833D

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{quote} Than you were never a trader, you were always a gambler. You are not sure at trading career, so it is best for you to go and do something else. I do this full time, there are some losses, but I manage to make money all the time. You have to control risk, emotion, and you have to wait for the right data and move. Once you catch that, you start loading either sell or longs, and you hold and add more to make more money. If you can't turn $30,000 into $300,000+ within 3 months or more, you do not belong in this business. Yes it is possible to...

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I don't think you are helping anyone with the claims of 1000% in 3 months bs.

Jul 8, 2025 10:02pm

Quoting aldonin

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{quote} TACO is a laughing stock / no one takes you seriously because you are not trustworthy

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This TACO chump's actions are similar to the 'pharma bro' who just jacked up prices out of the blue. All his actions are just making prices of everything go up.

Jul 8, 2025 10:05pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Please don’t anyone listen to fake posts from fake people like this one. The firms at which people try to trade know exactly how many people try and how many fail. If you don’t have access to this data, you wouldn’t know. If you are not making over $150k a year, every year, in net profit you are failing as a full time trader. Why? Because you could go get a job for $100k with benefits and security and that’s a much better deal for you and your family. Anyone anywhere that says trading for yourself with your own money and making an actual...

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Finally you said something I kinda agree with.

Jul 9, 2025 8:29am — Edited

Quoting Eurorally

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{quote} I think this decadent and false nonsense that "Trump caused the deaths of innocents by firing 600 newly hired and probational employees of NOAA-NWS" should finally end. This is because if you believe that firing of 600 new hires impaired the ability of NOAA-NWS to forecast weather, then you must ponder the following question: WHAT WAS THE ABILITY TO FORECAST WEATHER BEFORE THE NEW HIRES? Was it impaired and the new hires were supposed to fix it? Hardly! Such nonsensical political bias is not moving us any further, but Trump was...

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did you forget to watch the video i added to that post?

i think that professional weatherman knows more about the cuts and what they mean to the national weather service than either of us

ill post the longer version just for you

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Jul 10, 2025 8:46pm

Quoting Zebi

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{quote} did you forget to watch the video i added to that post? i think that professional weatherman knows more about the cuts and what they mean to the national weather service than either of us ill post the longer version just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4alvxm2Xxk https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VsGfu4ycyDY

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I wonder what that guy has to say about the floods.

Luxyus

Jul 8, 2025 12:01pm

bad news for top exporters like Chile and Peru, Indonesia, Brazil, Australia, Mexico and Canada

Trader191

Jul 8, 2025 2:50pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} lol, that’s a bet I would take. Have your attorney send me a message. We will set up an escrow account and bet each 100k that you can’t show net profits in excess of 150k every year for decades. I know profitable traders, been in the business forever, but I also know the actual probability of it. Get a CPA and you are guaranteed a good job that pays well. You have a 99% chance of success. Talk to anyone who access to traders p/l at big firms. They will tell you almost all who try, fail. Anyone can get lucky for a few years. A...

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i would take this bet. but would not be fair, because i know the result already and you would gamble in this case.

Jul 8, 2025 4:02pm

Quoting Trader#A155

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Man how come this pussy became president

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Could you please expain yourself, unless you are still stuck in the left's mantra that "idiot Trump wants to destroy the national economy by tariffs and the American consumers will pay for them" that ahas been discredited by the economic data to date.

I know, I know: Wait for the next week, next month or the next decade when the negative effect of tariffs on prices and therefore inflation will occur. But for how long do you want us to wait for your misguided godma, the price elasticity, the US market share for foreign companies, and the price discounts offered by foreign companies left and right notwithstanding?

Jul 9, 2025 8:15am

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{quote} i never said i was happy....i dont blame the kids just their stupid ass parents that voted for trump...theyre the ones with their kids blood on their hands the more retards that voted for him he gets killed especially during this hurricane season approaching will be better for us liberals people wont know which direction the hurricane gona go and when their house gets destroyed FEMA wont be there to provide shelter or cleanup LOL i hope you live in florida or texas 35T to enjoy what trump is gona do to you LOL https://youtu.be/pIJTJNR0478...

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I think this decadent and false nonsense that "Trump caused the deaths of innocents by firing 600 newly hired and probational employees of NOAA-NWS" should finally end.

This is because if you believe that firing of 600 new hires impaired the ability of NOAA-NWS to forecast weather, then you must ponder the following question: WHAT WAS THE ABILITY TO FORECAST WEATHER BEFORE THE NEW HIRES? Was it impaired and the new hires were supposed to fix it? Hardly!

Such nonsensical political bias is not moving us any further, but Trump was right.

Jul 9, 2025 10:50pm

You should know that Trump caused firing of 600 new hires and probationary employess plus some small number of early retirements.

Thus, can anybody say in his right mind that NOAA-NWS was not able to perform its duties BEFORE and this is WHY it had to hire the 600 engineers who were now fired? Or, that the 600 new hires were supposed to save the $6 billion a year NOAA-NWS from a continuing failure?

That is a logical nonsense entirely devoid of understanding the time sequence of the events in question,
the complaints about 600 newly hired firings from the inside of NOAA-NWS notwithstanding.

Now, keep in mind that any organization such as NOAA-NWS would toot its own horn just to preserve its fiefdom.

Jul 10, 2025 6:18pm

Every time we feel that "Trump caused the deaths in Texas by firing 600 newly hired from NOAA-NWS,
every time that we feel under pressure from those who use the "Emperor's New Clothes" on us,
every time we feel that there may be newspaper readers who believe Trump caused the deaths in Texas
by firing 600 newly hired people from NOAA-NWS,

we should pause and ponder why in this country of ours there are those who use untruth, political bias
and outright lies as a legitimate manner of a political struggle.

For this AP article below exposes all the lies which are so shamelessly used to the detriment of all:

1. The region of Texas where the flash flood occured is called the "Flood Alley."
2. Floods there happen regularly, notably in 1978 - 47 years ago - when 33 people died.
3. Thus, the charges by the disciples of the Church of Global warming and Climate Change to the effect
that this unfortunate event was an "Extreme Weather" caused by "Climate Change" are obviously false
and are without any scientific basis that remains unsupported by any scientific data whatsoever.
4. It is absolutely not true that the residents were not warned of the approaching flood: Every cellphone
received a warning message about the approaching flood. Firemen were going door to door to warn
those who may have overlooked the warning message on their phone. The sirens were sounding alarm
in those communities that had the good sense of installing such an inexpensive warning device based
on the experience of the previous floods and the flood of 1978.
5. It is also a boldfaced lie that the National Weather Service could not warn the residents because the
function of the NOAA-NWS was impaired by the fact that president Trump caused the firing of the 600
of the new hires who were hired by the NOAA-NWS only recently. Those who propound such
a boldfaced lie should ponder the question whether the ability of the NOAA-NWS to forecast weather
was ever impaired before the 600 new employees were hired.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...em/ar-AA1ImZec

Haks

Jul 8, 2025 12:34pm

Every single time I’m in a winning trade, Trump comes out and says something to destroy my trade. Every single time it’s happened and account has been blown. I don’t understand how unlucky someone can be.

Haks

Jul 8, 2025 12:46pm

Quoting Trader#9AEE

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{quote} I’ve worked with thousands of traders. I lost track of how many times I had to take over accounts and shut them down. Trading is one the hardest jobs in the world, exceedingly few actually make a living. It’s like trying to be a pro athlete, it’s possible but very unlikely. Same thing I tell everyone who is or wants to trade, go get a real job with security, retirement and health benefits. Gambling is a real addiction it will destroy you. Trading is a full time very hard job, pick something else, then you can do small no leverage trades...

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I completely agree. At this point, trading isn’t too much different from gambling. Only positive is that at least you can use stop loss to minimise your losses but to me it’s technically a form of gambling. I wanted to go into it full time but realised it’s impossible for me. I could have 100 days straight of wins but lose everything in one single day. I’d rather go back to full time work than concentrate on trading now. It’s emotionally draining

MisterWho

Jul 9, 2025 4:36am

Quoting 35T

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{quote} You are cheering on the death of innocent small children and using the proven lies of far left fake news outlets? Seriously one of the most disgusting posts I’ve ever seen. Anyone else here an inbred sociopath like Zebi who is happy about children dying?

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There are quite a few of those around here... They thrive on attention, so I suggest ignoring them.
I still can't understand how the admins allow these sick individuals to stay here.

wizzytech100

Jul 8, 2025 11:19pm

Quoting Zebi

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{quote} one more thing... You are falling under the influence of social media curated by countries that hate you. the reason the whole world hates us is because of outr continued support of a murderous genocidal ashkenazi zionist regime...they have about as much right to that land as my polish catholic ass does....the most wanted war criminal in the world is at the trump white house while there arrest warrents waiting to be served on his ass....the palestinian children jews are starving to death arent hamas members

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It's amazing how history always repeats,it's like dejavu Musolini story before the big fireworks

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Jul 8, 2025 12:49pm

Quoting 35T

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That’s a big move in copper. Highest price in history it looks like.

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very strange

Jul 8, 2025 12:58pm

We have to second-guess if this path is inflationary

Jul 8, 2025 1:39pm

Trump manipulated chart, slightly down this year, but probably bullish

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Jul 8, 2025 2:17pm

gold went up 60-70% in 2 years

Jul 8, 2025 2:19pm

thats the real inflation outlook leading indicator.

Jul 8, 2025 3:19pm

therefore this is an absolute lie and would 100% take the short term real rates negative

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Jul 8, 2025 6:36pm

So much internal hatred in US that they made a map for it.
https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map/

AonRaza

Jul 8, 2025 4:13pm

I think he loves trading more than presidency.

Luxyus

Jul 8, 2025 12:10pm

copper skyrocketin +11% on daily

goldru

Jul 8, 2025 12:05pm

Hahahahahaha this is brilliant circus

aldonin

Jul 8, 2025 12:51pm

any tariffs will hurt the US the most, which is dependent on imports of everything. It always affects consumers the most, never miners or importers to such an extent.

aldonin

Jul 8, 2025 12:56pm

Quoting aliforexnews

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{quote} What is Taco? i'm newbie

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TACO is a laughing stock / no one takes you seriously because you are not trustworthy

Trader#9EEF

Jul 8, 2025 12:10pm

good that china has cheaper replacement... good luck, higher prices, lower production, less workplaces, less export.. genius of the economy has spoken...

Killercam1

Jul 8, 2025 12:37pm

Quoting Zebi

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In 2023, the USA was a net importer of copper, with imports exceeding exports. Refined copper accounted for a significant portion of both imports and exports. Chile, Canada, and Peru were the primary sources of U.S. copper imports, while Mexico, Canada, and China were key destinations for U.S. copper exports. Imports: Major Sources: In 2023, Chile, Canada, and Peru were the top three sources of U.S. copper imports, with Chile alone accounting for 51% of the total. Types of Imports: Refined copper constitutes the majority of imports, followed by...

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I didnt understand the tweet until i read this ty

Jul 8, 2025 1:09pm

Quoting Bones

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We have to second-guess if this path is inflationary

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I honestly wish I knew, I could definitely make money off of it if I did.
Which tariffs , including copper, will actually be enacted long term, on whom, at what rate, who has exemptions, etc.

But the markets are 100% clear in the their opinion. Maybe some slight inflation but no big deal. Other than copper nothing moved much on this. Not stocks, bonds, or currencies.

Jul 8, 2025 1:21pm

Quoting Bones

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{quote} Who knows what's coming down the line??? {image}

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No one knows, that’s what makes a market. Anyone who claims to know what any market will do is a billionaire or a liar lol.

One tweet the other way and copper crashes. Have to be prepared for anything.

Jul 8, 2025 1:36pm

Quoting Bones

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{quote} copper went up 40% already this year, gold over 30%, silver 25% and your talking like everything is normal. How can you tell from bonds and stocks when they're being so manipulated? Trump's talking about forcing negative real rates... you're bellwether is not reliable

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Everything is normal in my life, finances, job, neighborhood, city, state, etc. I know you are predicting a big bad thing to hurt the US significantly. Maybe it will happen, maybe it won’t. It’s impossible to bet on black swan events. I watched traders go bankrupt in 1998 and 1999 telling everyone the nasdaq had to crash. They were eventually right, but they went bankrupt so who cares?

Trading is timing, not general calls. If you are correct, then many indicators will shift, currently today, there is nothing to react to. Go sell everything you own to buy puts. You will literally be a billionaire if correct. That’s not a trade I’m willing to do.

Jul 8, 2025 1:51pm

Quoting Bones

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{quote} im not guessing anything, im talking facts

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I see market prices as facts. Opinions of general issues like inflation, currency devaluations, tariffs, etc. are just that, opinions.

If your opinions are in conflict with actual prices, that’s fine, you might someday be correct. However I base my decisions on actual prices. In the last 20 years how many days has the S&P 500 been above 6200? Drawn a downtrend in stocks or real estate, you can’t.

Everything is fine today, everything was fine yesterday. Something big will have to occur for your prediction of very bad things to come to pass. I can’t bet on something that might happen someday. Even if you are 100% convinced the US is going bankrupt you can’t give me a date, or even a month, or even a part of a year that the market will price that in. Therefore it’s untrable.

Jul 8, 2025 2:05pm

Quoting Trader#833D

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{quote} Like I said it is difficult but not impossible. Just another job, just because you can't make it in trading full time, does not mean others like me can't. It is possible and people do it. Not selling anything.

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lol, that’s a bet I would take. Have your attorney send me a message. We will set up an escrow account and bet each 100k that you can’t show net profits in excess of 150k every year for decades. I know profitable traders, been in the business forever, but I also know the actual probability of it.

Get a CPA and you are guaranteed a good job that pays well. You have a 99% chance of success. Talk to anyone who access to traders p/l at big firms. They will tell you almost all who try, fail. Anyone can get lucky for a few years. A career is 40 years long.

Jul 8, 2025 2:06pm

Quoting Bones

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{quote} yeah but youre going to see very high inflation for a fact.

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How much and when?
Show me your option trade on that fact. You will make a ridiculous amount of money on that option trade since no one in the world is pricing that in.

Jul 8, 2025 2:26pm

Quoting Bones

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thats the real inflation outlook leading indicator.

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As I’ve said here before, let me know when treasury yields spike, until then there is no trade on your opinion. You can’t name a time, just inflation will go higher than it ever has at some unknown date in the future, isn’t a tradable opinion.

But I’ve also said we agree on fiat, it’s not something to ever hold. Own real things, not fiat currency. Then if inflation happens you are hedged against it. Most professionals in the US have most all their money in real things, real estate, stocks, commodities. These all go up as the dollar falls. The real issue is the “have nots”, not the “haves”, which I’m privileged and lucky to be part of, we are ok. I’m not sure what will happen to “have nots’ with inflation and AI.

Jul 8, 2025 2:35pm

Since I’m ranmbling non stop today in this most boring of trading days, just want to add one thing.

I don’t know about trading because I’m some special, talents, extra smart person. Not at all, I know what I know from personally making every trading mistake possible and learning from it.

If you are new or newish trader, there are only a few things to do. Paper trade enough to work out your method, leverage, stop placement, targets. Do not trade real money until all of that has been tested thoroughly.

You can also satisfy your trading urges with a real job. Swing trading can be incredibly profitable because you often luck into a longer term trend. You can hold that position for a long time with a proper trailing stop.

Jul 8, 2025 4:59pm

Quoting Zebi

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{quote} they so funny OT these dickheads threatened civil war all of bidens term and now they crying and pissing their pants dems want one too LOL https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...aring-violence

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Which side all lives in big cities together with no guaranteed access to fresh water and food?
Which side doesn’t own firearms and most are actually afraid of them.

The military and leo will be at best, split on each side.

It won’t be a war, it will be an extermination of one side without much effort. If that’s what you want, feel free.

Jul 8, 2025 5:30pm

Quoting Zebi

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{quote} that food and fresh water in the rural south really worked for you last time in 1861 didnt it LOL the south still a bunch of inbred ignorant farmers inxtead of like the indiustrialised liberal north

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Ask any military expert. Dems all live in the same place, with no access to essentials. Also they can leave anytime they want and go live in their choice of dozens of socialist countries. The right literally has nowhere to go. You would have to murder 175 million Americans to win.

It’s a childish and stupid thing to even bring up. But I’m not surprised since you are an uneducated child that believes every lie you are told. The right would never start it because we believe in law and order unlike dems. But if you start it, you will be ended rather quickly. It’s honestly comically sad how little the left understands about actual war. You are talking about tens of millions of Americans going door to door to murder each other. Poisoning the water sources of every big city. Snipers posted all around the cities as dems try to run. Is that really something dems think is a good idea? What would be lremainig in the aftermath? You are falling under the influence of social media curated by countries that hate you.

Deladgreat

Jul 8, 2025 11:59am

Nice , all I want is dodge coin 🪙

taha20077

Jul 8, 2025 12:00pm

bullish for xauusd but plane matter

Jul 8, 2025 12:02pm

That’s a big move in copper.

Highest price in history it looks like.

Jul 8, 2025 12:06pm

Gold buy

Jul 8, 2025 12:10pm

TACO

Jul 8, 2025 12:16pm

Someone must learn this guy every action has a reaction.

Trader#4404

Jul 8, 2025 12:19pm

No president in the US history did this to market, He is ruining the market, every day he says something yesterday 25% on Japan today 50% on Copper tomorrow ... OMG pleaseeeeeeee Trump what's wrong with you at least announce these tarrifs at the same time one day

aliforexnews

Jul 8, 2025 12:21pm

Quoting Trader#A413

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Taco 1D Ema dxy And again lol good place to anounce bullshit””t

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What is Taco? i'm newbie

Trader#9AEE

Jul 8, 2025 12:42pm

Quoting Haks

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Every single time I’m in a winning trade, Trump comes out and says something to destroy my trade. Every single time it’s happened and account has been blown. I don’t understand how unlucky someone can be.

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I’ve worked with thousands of traders. I lost track of how many times I had to take over accounts and shut them down. Trading is one the hardest jobs in the world, exceedingly few actually make a living. It’s like trying to be a pro athlete, it’s possible but very unlikely.

Same thing I tell everyone who is or wants to trade, go get a real job with security, retirement and health benefits. Gambling is a real addiction it will destroy you. Trading is a full time very hard job, pick something else, then you can do small no leverage trades in your spare time for fun.

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 12:44pm

Do not get upset over it. No one could of called this quick move on copper. This was a headline and it goes up. IF you had a long term position on long Copper, you earned a lot of money, if not, do not upset about it. There are many opportunities. Just follow fundamentals, technicals and sentiment. You will not be able to catch all the opportunities, but try to catch the best you can and money will come.

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 12:46pm

Quoting Trader#9AEE

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{quote} I’ve worked with thousands of traders. I lost track of how many times I had to take over accounts and shut them down. Trading is one the hardest jobs in the world, exceedingly few actually make a living. It’s like trying to be a pro athlete, it’s possible but very unlikely. Same thing I tell everyone who is or wants to trade, go get a real job with security, retirement and health benefits. Gambling is a real addiction it will destroy you. Trading is a full time very hard job, pick something else, then you can do small no leverage trades...

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Absolute bull*hit. It is difficult but not as hard as you claim. Learn fundamentals, technicals and sentiment. Follow the data, and try to take the best trades possible. It is a difficult career but not that hard. It is a job just like any.

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 12:50pm

Quoting Haks

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{quote} I completely agree. At this point, trading isn’t too much different from gambling. Only positive is that at least you can use stop loss to minimise your losses but to me it’s technically a form of gambling. I wanted to go into it full time but realised it’s impossible for me. I could have 100 days straight of wins but lose everything in one single day. I’d rather go back to full time work than concentrate on trading now. It’s emotionally draining

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Than you were never a trader, you were always a gambler. You are not sure at trading career, so it is best for you to go and do something else. I do this full time, there are some losses, but I manage to make money all the time. You have to control risk, emotion, and you have to wait for the right data and move. Once you catch that, you start loading either sell or longs, and you hold and add more to make more money. If you can't turn $30,000 into $300,000+ within 3 months or more, you do not belong in this business. Yes it is possible to turn $30,000 into 300,000 or more, but like I said you have to wait for the right moment, data fundamentas, technicals, sentiment to line up and you make a move. Stop scalping or day trading, that thing will make you lose money.

Mureythee

Jul 8, 2025 1:21pm

Most brief information i have come through

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 1:45pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} Please don’t anyone listen to fake posts from fake people like this one. The firms at which people try to trade know exactly how many people try and how many fail. If you don’t have access to this data, you wouldn’t know. If you are not making over $150k a year, every year, in net profit you are failing as a full time trader. Why? Because you could go get a job for $100k with benefits and security and that’s a much better deal for you and your family. Anyone anywhere that says trading for yourself with your own money and making an actual...

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Like I said it is difficult but not impossible. Just another job, just because you can't make it in trading full time, does not mean others like me can't. It is possible and people do it. Not selling anything.

Nestar1

Jul 8, 2025 1:55pm

Quoting Trader#E8DB

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He Might have had long positions in copper

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thank you!

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 2:08pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} lol, that’s a bet I would take. Have your attorney send me a message. We will set up an escrow account and bet each 100k that you can’t show net profits in excess of 150k every year for decades. I know profitable traders, been in the business forever, but I also know the actual probability of it. Get a CPA and you are guaranteed a good job that pays well. You have a 99% chance of success. Talk to anyone who access to traders p/l at big firms. They will tell you almost al, who try, fail. Anyone can get lucky for a few years. A career is 40...

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Blah, blah, blah. Why would I go get a degree, when I can put $50,000 of my own money and make good income on that from my own home, in my own home office, and have been doing it for years. You are not guaranteed a good job with CPA anymore as AI is taking over, and in order for you to be in that field you must have some computer programming skills to be able to use AI. Stop spreading bull*hit here, and your attorney and opening accounts, and whatever nonsense you are spreading. I can show my portfolio, but I will not show it. I know that I am making money doing full time trading and investing, and that is good enough for me. I understand that you are desperate because you can't make money by trading or investing, but that is your issue. Again, stop spreading bull*hit.

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 2:32pm

Quoting 35T

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{quote} When you have been in the professional trading industry for over 35 years, like me, then I’ll take your rambling nonsense with some sort of seriousness. Right now you sound exactly like the thousands of traders I’ve watched try and fail. Trading is fine for some people, I do it, I know others who do. But for everyone who makes a living trading, hundreds tried and failed. You would know all of this if you ever actually worked in the industry. If you are honestly successful, I can say without hesitation I’m happy for you. I like when people...

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The only one stating false info is you. I am done with you.

Jul 8, 2025 3:20pm

Back to copper, CME just raised margin from 9k to 11k, they were not prepared for today’s 13k move lol.

yousseffff

Jul 8, 2025 12:01pm

is it good or bad news for $ ?

dovishhawk1

Jul 8, 2025 12:04pm

Does he think so erratically himself or someone thinks on his behalf ?

Trader#F7D9

Jul 8, 2025 12:08pm

chill bros

Trader#3A21

Jul 8, 2025 12:08pm

Are there any boom and crash robots available??

Trader#E8DB

Jul 8, 2025 12:09pm

He Might have had long positions in copper

Trader#A413

Jul 8, 2025 12:11pm

Taco 1D Ema dxy And again lol good place to anounce bullshit””t

Trader#6783

Jul 8, 2025 12:22pm

next tariff, air.

Trader#CFCC

Jul 8, 2025 12:29pm

i stop trading this whole week. the last 2 days is crazy. this is so stupid. let this stupid tariffs over and trade again. too much news. price go back and forth.

Trader#FF6E

Jul 8, 2025 12:36pm

Quoting Zebi

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pollute themselves

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Because air doesn't circulate the globe.

I swear you suck exhaust straight from the tail pipe

Trader#EB82

Jul 8, 2025 1:02pm

In the words of Nurse Ratched ......

Its medication Time Donald, come on you loonie, take your pills ..

Trader#833D

Jul 8, 2025 2:34pm

I am bearish for USD is over. Economic data is pointing to USA being in a very good position. We have to wait for CPI numbers on July 15 to confirm USD trend, up or continuing down.

Trader#F729

Jul 8, 2025 2:52pm

35T I see you're arguing with people who suffer from Dunning-Kruger, it's useless, but if you are having fun just be it :-)

Trader#1B4B

Jul 8, 2025 4:28pm

Quoting Zebi

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{quote} i never said i was happy

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One look at your profile confirms your mental health status.

Trader#BE8C

Jul 9, 2025 4:18am

This old man is obviously manipulating the market of what he is trading about ….. report him

Trader#FF05

Jul 8, 2025 12:11pm