Really? That sounds odd to me. So at the market open after the weekend, Oanda will have a daily open and IB won't open it's door's to trader's until about six hours later? I always had it in my head that the second the Sydney session opened, the ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

In my experience, a daily candle isn't arbitrary. Although brokers have differing timesets, the only difference that makes is the times at the bottom of your chart on the x-axis and the times on your statement of when your orders were filled. ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I think it's the unchangeable title that has people stopping by and talking about indicators vs. price I do hope the price history discussion does pick up but nonetheless, this is actually some real valuable info, Dopey, so thank you very ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

That being said, a "war between price and indicators" is worse. Not only does it not sum up what this thread is about and where it is going, it misleads browsers. It misleads them away with a title like that. A title I can apparently no longer ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I'm going to go over this a million times because I feel like a really huge thing is flashing right in front of me and I'm too blind to see it. Just gimme a second! This really isn't much about price vs. indicator anymore... and "the war between ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

If it gets CrucialPoint to reveal his secret, you'd be doing every being who has ever traded the greatest favor in the world I'd build a monument to you with the money I make from the secret And yes I read that. I just don't understand how ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

His idea proves true on high time frames but I often see dojis and those minus sign looking bars on the M1. More than 5% but still relatively small compared to the bars that actually move. The exploitable edge I suggested in the post I was referring ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

As for problem one, I believe the other little bit is an OC bar. Go to the M1 charts. Look for minus symbol looking things. A one minute period where the market closes where it opens without moving up or down. So I believe the breakdown is 95% of ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

Can't be sure but... url and url I think this is I should be looking at... Or is post 7 merely a motivational story that emphasizes simplicity and nothing more? The next candle or tick will be the same as before, and 95% of the time and the ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

Precisely my point, bbmac. Thank you! Price is leading but indicators are based on the leading PRICE. A lot of them lag but it doesn't mean they all do.

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

So trading long above the open and short below the close? If we keep to tick and 1m charts, that's what I see but there's got to be much more to it. Because if it's just that... beating the spread and having a good MM strategy on this will take a ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I'm trying to be open minded... is that possible? xD

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I wanted to post this over there but would not dare interrupt any pure rage comments xD Here it is: Greatest FF win EVER.

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

There's no way that's real Price always has to have an open, right? Even ticks have an open if you look at it like and open and close all in one go xD What am I seeing here, anyways? xD

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

True. Very true. How about relative time? The closest possible thing would be ticks and the seconds/one minute charts. The closest relative thing to no past price. Take that parameter and roll with it!

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

Right, right. I've taken notice xD But I've yet to see him post here so we should be in clear water and ready to continue sailing smooth on this thread!

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

You're right, you're right. I apologize. I lost my focus for a second so thank you for putting me back on track. Lemme just put this out there and you can take it or leave it but... WOW! I am very impressed. So yes price does not close ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I guess I would say anything and everything that pure price action users use. So everything I listed in the first post xD And other tihngs like pitchforks and Gann lines and y'know how the list goes. Don't market breakouts also use the high and low ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

Yes I've seen some things I saw as contradictory in his journal as well but what I'm mostly getting at is his no-past-price idea. I never understood why he would need anything else if he could trade completely without past price but I'm sure there's ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators

I don't want to say this out loud because I don't want to make my posts less credible by saying this but... I still do use indicators... I've always wanted to trade pure PA but it's this one argument running through my head! It's stopping me ...

It's kind of curious...the war between price and indicators