DislikedSounds nice, could it be better to use sl order instead of auto stop out, i noticed that it will close position paritially and drain whole account in case of adverse movement.Ignored
If you want to be low risk then I am afraid CHEETAH might not be the thing you are looking for.. At least, if we are talking about small price movements... At lower price changes this RR that most strive for is very hard to achieve... If we are talking about eurusd for example... tp22 would mean 100%/profit at 500:1 max, but the question is WITHIN what SL or STOP-OUT or MARGIN can you achieve that? If you can achieve that within TP10 or TP5... then you are my teacher... specially if you can do that in a row more than for example n=5...
Just to get some perspective... Most funds or managing companies struggle to beat S&P... 100% return is OMG... And we are talking about one of the most talented, smartest, hardoworking or whatever people with basically unlimited resources in tech and/or man-power, brains etc... And at cheetah (250USD->1mio in 12 trades; n=12) we are talking about about 400000% return (yes, 400 thousand)... And you want this to be with "reasonable" stop-loss/out aka "good risk management"? Those can not mix unless you have divine powers/luck my friend OR there is something I am missing. We tried to do this with SMALL deposit and re-deposit SMALL deposit(s) just to somewhat "reset" the stat and aim for another series that could be realistic (based on some stat and estimation)... Also we set the limit where we PULL it precisely because of the STAT that might imply "everything comes back" so we BREAK the circle.. Doing n=12 and STOP... aka preventing overtrading...
We at cheetah are talking about UNHEARD returns... And we maybe could pull it off to at least certain amount of "n"... And the only way I can at least see this happening is to give trade SPACE to move unless someone (so far anyone barely post anything) can post TP20 with SL20 or less... we will have real struggle...
I can tell you that I will not be able to give you, in eurusd sense, less with SL20... at TP20 (or TP22) 500:1 max in, I am sorry... I find the later EXTRAORDINARY..
Since we would only need 12 of those to get from 250USD to 1million... But if you want to be LOW risk aka SL5 or whatever, then I can save you time in advance that I will not be able to provide this because otherwise I would use even higher leverage and be aiming billions Very simple but I still didn't seem to explain this enough... Of course if we would be talking about TP200, then RR 1:4 is much more achievable because we would have to be "precise" within SL50... which is more realistic... But the lower the price changes there are RADICALLY lower chances to be precise within TP=SL.. For one, you start with spread, stop-out, even mini spike can wipe you out.. And you know how quick price can change without any reason? Why be exposed to farts or micro spikes..
And about SL vs STOP-OUT... Using SL or STOP-OUT are basically the same at this level Since you would be WIPED (stoped-out) before SL20 and if you have broker that allows you so much "room" at 500:1 max anyway... like 15-20% stop-out...
BTW guys, if you think this is BAD, I won't even bother posting? I do not like to expose my trades just for someone to disregard them as bad just because it is not RR 1:4 or something. Please tell me... I, as one of the rare people, look at the big picture.. If we put 50USD in, what comes out... And I do not care about average parameters that most traders strive for at "normal" trading with knowns results.. We know the end stat of "normal" trader, right..
Again, cheetah is cheetah, if you will try to apply "normal" "rules"... I have bad news for you OR you can teach us all something.
Again, if anyone here is looking to DEPOSIT 100USD to get to 1million in a week, while risking like 1% per trade or whatever, I can save you the time already and can tell you that I will not be able to provide you with this in my best best past and future serial of trades...
Am I really the only one that think TP20SL20 is GOLD? Since only n=12 in a row would be needed to get 1mio basically out of THIN AIR? Yeah it is possible some would say "omg HAHA crap strategy, not within Risk:Reward 1:1 sorry" and go back to their startegy where they have all figoured out... Risk:Reward is good, all the lines are good, and the famous fibonacci APPROVES.. But at the end of the day/year... What is the REAL return of?
Again and again, I believe CHEETAH might be best for either ROOKIEs or OPEN-MINDED people that understand the BASIC SIMPLE concept...
You risk SMALL deposit(s) TILL THE GROUND with the AIM of striking the "big" series that will OUTPAY it all Very simple, very hard to get..
BTW... I would love to trade with TP22SL5 If I could, BELIEVE ME!
And yeah, before I proceed with posting LIVE trades... Can you tell me guys if you get the concept and VALUE for example TP20SL20 trades that can provide 100%/trade while risking it like 80%+ per trade? If not, we can stop right now since it would be SOLVED, It can not be done, at least not by me, at least not higher "n"s like n=5+... If I would be able to pull it off within TP5, then I would tune the leverage up even higher and less deposit and less n would be needed to achieve the GRAND SLAM in short(er) time...
One can choose between DOUBLING the balance.. with lover leverage risk, and "waste" n=10-12 to do that...
Or one can high-tune it to the MAX and aim for n=12..
Baiscally whatever you want..
I am just saying, that making 1mio out of "thin air" in 12 trades... takes the most extraordinary risk, that is the price...
Or we could focus on the DOUBLE instead where we would be using much more "tolerable" SLs but you would be using the same number of "n" basically "just" to double the money...
Would you prefer we focus to (just) DOUBLE the balance instead? using what AIMED TP (%) vs what SL (%)? Without this defined, all this will server no purpose!
I have separate/other threads (1, 2) for this where we AIM for 100% Return (Annual) within RoMaD=5 so within DrawDown= 20%... But YES, now we have another problem..
If you have people depositing 50USD... getting to 100USD in a year would not do much. I am sorry you have to CHOOSE... Deposit BIG and be happy with 100% return... Or deposit PEANUTS money and RISK it DEEP, every compound trade, in order to STRIVE for BIG (absolute) return... The third option is to to choose BIG price changes.. but the longer trades could bring additional risks and also, it could take much more time... So please tell me what you guys even want, before we proceed...
But if any of you have a way to deposit 100EUR and roll it to 100mio while risking very low % per trade, please share it
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So please, before we go on... How many understand the goal here or what parameters would you like to see, just pls do not expect impossible within impossible...
Until I get an answer I do not see the point to "waste" or expose my carefully selected rather "certainty (estimated) trades (that I see as diamonds) just in order for MOST to disregard/filter it since it wouldn't fit some strategy or "risk management" without even checking the whole picture...
Please respond people otherwise we can not continue with this... It would have no meaning, just exposing for no reason (effect).
Or maybe I should to this privately and post ABSOLUTE return after and they you could analyse if this profit is of any good, if it was within the rules or not Believe me, I am for risk management but applying universal R:R rule without bigger picture is pure crap... It is like someone would price price movement of whatever, certain (beyond doubt) in a row, but just because it was not within some RR or whatever, due to delay, spike, whatever... should be disregarded?..
Awaiting your replies people, till then, I will trade cheetah privately and post LIVE results (AFTER, not as live feed) once I am satisfied.. But if you want LIVE FEED (trades), I need answer to above (original) simple question... What do you think about risking 100% for 100%/trade? Because this is basically what PURE CHEETAH is about.. We can SCALE DOWN but we can not scale down the risk much without scaling down the (compound) profits at the same time. Do you get this simple concept and if so, how many of you do?
Can you afford to take that chance?