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Apr 14, 2010 7:29am
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Originally Posted by jeurre
Hi, I want to learn your method, here is a short trade triggered based on below reasondouble top, pinbar break....
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Hello jeurre,
-zoom out your H1 chart. your zoomed out chart is not enough.
zoom your chart out at least 1 notch higher -- anything less than this is less informative, imho.
-does that pinbar get your attention/'jump out at you'?
that pinbar is pretty small for price to reverse (go in your trade's favor) convincingly.
-a pinbar & a double top are not enough for you to take a trade. u should look at other possible reasons (if there are any). if u take double tops, at least have another confluence like divergence.
-check out the higher timeframes.
-this is the H1 chart. u should start H4 & up if u are new to this method.
step by step..
Good luck!
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Apr 14, 2010 7:34am
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Originally Posted by bertie123
Have had 4 winning trades (all pins) between this week and last week and now in the 'waiting patiently' mode for the next A+ setup...
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got charts?
That's awesome!
Keep it up!! 
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Apr 14, 2010 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by squeezy
yup very good size bar, im sure Mike didnt take this but i did...
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aha, so u were the one who hit my tight stop on my longs 
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Apr 15, 2010 12:01am
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Originally Posted by jeurre
Hi, bertie123, congratulations ! how did you manage your "waiting patienly" mode? I tend to pull trigger, I hate this, but, no idea how to control the impulse to take a trade...
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create a set of qualifications/rules before taking a trade.
if not ALL of the qualifications are met, dont trade.

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Apr 15, 2010 12:03am
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
yes in hindsight i could have closed up a bit of the AUDUSD trade, but I just find it silly to close a portion of trade when you're only in 19 pips of profit lol.... I think trading a daily chart means avoiding scalping  ...
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i think this is what Sir james16 calls "daytrading the Daily (higher timeframes)"

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Apr 15, 2010 5:54am
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Originally Posted by squeezy
lol
this was my thinking at the time and after but now the play is over, on to the next one
view charts
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too bad i was asleep when 94.00 was almost reached.
on your first chart, u said u were looking for PA.
well, there was an IPB &/or 4-bar PB 
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Apr 15, 2010 5:58am
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Originally Posted by jeurre
do you have some rules and qualifications....
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as u read further along this thread, u will learn & be able to formulate your own rules/qualifications. start with post #1.
i used to be a very impatient guy too.
i learned a lot from this thread. you WILL too
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rules/qualifications may revolve around/involve these:
-Location is more important than bar shape/form
-Bigger PA is preferred
-trade setups with Confluence (like divergence, round number, space, fib retracement, etc)
-be aware of traffic
-trade away from PPZ/ S&R, not into it
etc
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Apr 15, 2010 6:16am
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Originally Posted by Atc
GPD/USD 4 hr
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what do u want us to say? 
decent-sized BEOB.
just noticed this trade already moved in your favor...
i was supposed to say that be aware of possible traffic from Last Tuesday's highs. as u know, (BEOB broke hard/) price moved past through it with momentum, & that's what we want to happen!
now, it's all about trade management.
u can exit some at 1.5400 & leave some positions open.
manage it as best as u can 
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Apr 15, 2010 6:23am
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Originally Posted by squeezy
hmm, thnx for pointing out, pls view chart S
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in the chart u said, "it's a bit small for an hourly trade"
u must be referring to the IPB
whether u look at it as an IPB or 4-bar PB, look at the succeeding reaction:
price bounced up quickly (as evidenced by the bullish bars/candles after the IPB/4-bar PB)
i believe the location played a big part here (your blue PPZ & possibly the trendline/trendline break), more than the small PA (IPB/4-bar PB).

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Apr 15, 2010 7:22am
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Originally Posted by Atc
I'm a rookie who needed some feedback if I was seeing signals correctly(according to J16)...
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i hope u didnt see my post in a bad light. My apologies if u did. 
what i meant to say was that, imho, u made a good observation of the current setup & did fairly well in that trade so i was not sure what u want us to say/what feedback u want from us.
Keep it up Atc! 
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Apr 15, 2010 10:00am
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Originally Posted by jeurre
...what is your favorite location? I read part of the thread, and I am aware of swing high/swing low, the concept is great, but, seems only valid in hindsight, how do you usually identify them,please?...
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valid in hindsight?
not really. u just have to experience it to see/believe it.
when price moves up/down, creating a swing high/low, & u see space to the left of current price (that is, u dont see price action to the left of the swing high/low), then it is a valid swing high/low -- u can see/distinguish it in real time.
ok, my eyes are  , i made a random search for u.
here are some random posts/charts for u:
here (swing high),
here (Nov2007 showing swing high),
here (Jan & June2003 showing swing high & higher swing high, respectively), here (FIRST chart: March2003 swing low which in hindsight was an extreme swing low; & Dec2003 extreme swing high, distinguishable just by looking at the WHOLE chart; SECOND chart Mar2008 swing low)
here (swing high & low here)
here (FIRST chart: swing high Dec2008; SECOND Chart: Sept2009 swing high THIRD chart: swing low Oct2009)
here (swing low & high), here (A is swing low, B is higher swing low, 1 is swing high)
what's important is to zoom out & compare current price location versus the rest of the chart. in other words, view current price in context of the whole chart.
if price is 'above the clouds' (& most price action is below the clouds), then price is at a swing high. reverse for a swing low.
to be honest, this post took longer than expected & im sleepy (im nearing my bedtime; you are from Asia too, so u know). so i hope this post still makes sense.
there are a lot of helpful people here, so u wont have any question UNaswered unless this thread moves too fast again.
Never stop learning!
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Apr 16, 2010 2:40am
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Hello berti,
to keep it simple & avoid analysis paralysis..
try to update your chart (at the end of) every week. or update as necessary intra-week.
the number of lines/PPZs will be trader-dependent & IMHO currency pair (movement)-dependent [some pairs are trending, while others are ranging].
Hope this helps
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Apr 16, 2010 4:13am
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Originally Posted by bertie123
Hi guys
just trading the dailies/weeklies just now and was wondering how many PPz's ...
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Hey berti,
as an addition, study the PPZ plotting styles of the seniors here.
also, u can check Sir Blackeagle's way of plotting S/R's. i've mentioned it here before (u can find that post or just search through Blackeagle's post history). let me know if u cant find it.
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Apr 16, 2010 10:39am
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Hello Stockwalker,
Cyrus seems to be using a particular program/application (i dont know which one) that lets him collect the posts.
it's cool huh
HEY, no kidding, are u only 15y.o.???
thanks!
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Apr 16, 2010 9:27pm
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Autumm,
although i personally am not too strict with it, i'd like to know how many pips is the difference on both highs? looking at your chart, the second bar's high seem to be lower than the first bar's high.
the retracement didnt come simply because EUR was too weak. not to mention there was risk aversion again (which is JPY positive).
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...With regards to playing retracement trades, how do we consider if the trade is no longer valid?
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im not sure what u mean by 'valid/invalid' in this particular case..
if it retraced back a bit to the previous daily bar, it is still valid. the only difference is it made a minor retracement (than u've expected; let's say, more or less 38.2% ret)
if price is making little to no upside/downside retracement, it means price is very bearish/bullish.
so an alternative trade setup in eurjpy's case, if u are comfortable, u could've looked for retracements on the lower timeframes (since u didnt get a retracement on Daily) &/or traded a breakout on the lower timeframes.
on eurjpy M30, for example, u could have traded a TBL/TML (two-bar low/two matching low) breakout. if u put a horizontal line, M30 chart, around 125.05ish u will see the TBL. this is also near the 125.00, so u could've put your limit order under the 125.00 RN if u are conservative (specially since 125.00 is a PPZ -- check out H1/H4 chart).
again, do this if u are experienced/comfortable enough.
Hope this helps
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Last edited by supremeChaos, Apr 16, 2010 9:45pm
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Apr 16, 2010 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by skinfx
...so do u think it is advisable to hold on the trade before this piercing through 125 lvl happen?
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Hello skin,
if i may...
it depends on your personality & risk appetite.
what u can do is exit some of your positions at/around 125.00 round number & leave some positions open to possibly extract more pips & exploit trends such as what happened to the jpy crosses like eurjpy today.
Hope this helps
Have a superb weekend ALL!!!
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Apr 17, 2010 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by ddinnov
Does anyone like the look of the daily PIN on EUR/NZD?...
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that pin's body is 'embedded' to the prior bar.
we want pins protruding from the prior bar. imo, the protrusion of the bar's body should be around 70 - 95%. this pin's body is protruding only about 20-30% from the prior bar.
if this pin takes off, well that's a different matter. like Mike said, u should be picky with bars & know what u are getting into prior to trading non-ideal bars.
Hope this helps
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Apr 17, 2010 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by shauns1966
... but then I can find a reason NOT to trade almost any set up!!! 
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Hello Shaun,
imo u made a good observation of shaun's chart.
are u aware of that? u can build up from there.
know what reasons are for & against a trade (by reading this thread & eventually forming your own rules/qualifications based on your own personality, risk appetite etc).
then if there are more reasons stacked in your favor, then u will have the confidence to take it. also, demo trading helps (knowing if u are right/wrong in taking every trade, & boosting confidence).
i believe anxiety/hesitation is inversely proportional to knowledge/confidence
Hope this helps
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Apr 17, 2010 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by cprao
Bearish pin
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it's off of 1.55 & 1.54, actually.
looking at your chart, im not sure, if the pin's close is above the prior bar's high. also the pin's close is higher than the open. it's your chart, so im not in the position to firmly say this isnt a pin.
look at the surrounding bars/candles. does this pin stand out/jump out at u?
i had a quick look at the chart & that pin seem to be only bigger than less than 5-10 bars.
again, i am scrutinizing the bar u pointed out. achieving a winning trade off a small pin is a different matter.
Hope this helps 
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Apr 17, 2010 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by badhairday
Just a quick question, what's consider a scalp?
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to be honest, i dont care about the definition anymore.
i think what u are referring to is what (i believe) Sir james16 said before-- "daytrading the daily chart".
u see, there are trades in the higher timeframes (H4, daily & up) wherein u only get, say, 20-50pips in profit, which takes about only a few minutes to a few hours to happen.
i think this is the 'scalp' u are hearing about & referring to.
Hope this clears it up 
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Apr 17, 2010 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
Here's what I have been messing with lately:
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have u relied before on putting PPZs off of the closing prices? or PPZs off of closing prices & hihgs/lows?
since u are relying more on the ZZ indicator than the (closing prices from the) line on close chart, i think what will happen here is that u will have more PPZs based off of the highs/lows than the clsoing prices.
let us know of any updates (if it suits u, if u find it better/more effective etc).
Thanks!
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Apr 17, 2010 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
I have no idea what you're asking??? 
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i was asking if u plotted PPZs differently before (prior using the ZZ indicator to plot PPZ's)
sorry i got u confused. 
never mind, just keep us updated if u can. 
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Apr 17, 2010 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by Mauzzz
Hey Guys,
I'm full of emotions right now...
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we all go throught those same emotions
u must realize that
1. when u are not yet fully equipped with knowledge, it's easy to fail/lose than to win.
2. losing is part of this business.
since i've read quite a number of posts here, my observations are that traders make mistakes/have problems in these aspects (probably in this exact order):
1. taking PA setups outright (trading every PB, BUOB u see) regardless of size
2. plotting correct PPZs
3. plotting & being aware of other PPZs near price
4. risk & trade management (when to go to BE; managing the stop loss, take profit, exit; whether to leave some positions open or not)
DO post charts so we can all learn & observe 
if u are zealous & persistent, your dilemma is temporary, i assure you 
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Apr 17, 2010 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by jarroo
Maybe you could post a chart... 
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hahahah...Not again, Sir
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
I used to just look at a candlestick chart and try to draw them in... It was a mess...
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I see. that answers my question. Thanks
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Apr 18, 2010 4:47am
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Originally Posted by kk007
....swing high/low cannot be known at real time (you know it afterwards).What is the usefulness of something who can only speak in hindsight?...
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well, trading is about probabilities.
we try to trade when we believe/know that odds are in our favor.
we cannot be certain that each trade we take will be a winner.
in that light, we can say that everything (good/bad trade; swing hi/low or not, etc) is known/discernible in hindsight.
if u single out 'swing high/low', & if u do the same to the other factors u've mentioned(see below), then IMHO it's (possibly) susceptible too to the hindsight &/or usefulness 'issue.'
like the other factors, 'swing hi/low' is just a piece of the puzzle (but necessary, IMHO). it works in synergy with the other factors (confluence).
Hope this makes sense
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..A number of factors are into consideration, pinbar length, the troubleness of the position, traffic, trendline, etc when evaluating position...
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Apr 18, 2010 4:59am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
Recalulation: SL 12-13pips
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doesnt change much
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What's the RR on a 190 pip move. 
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Apr 18, 2010 5:03am
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Originally Posted by kk007
I have read about pinbar at swing high/low...
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figure 1 & 2 are similar.
both are at a swing low but in Figure 2, the PB did not work since the trend is obviously strong.
BUT we are not surprised (that this PB fails) since we can see an immediate PPZ above the PB. 
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Apr 18, 2010 5:06am
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Originally Posted by cprao
Thank you for your comments.
From the above checklist....
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u can add the close should be/ideally above the open (for a bullish PB)
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Apr 18, 2010 9:45am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
It didn't work? It looks like it worked out just as expected. A successful Pin Bar in my book. 
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yah, that's what i meant below
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figure 1 & 2 ...
BUT we are not surprised (that this PB fails) since we can see an immediate PPZ above the PB. 
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Apr 18, 2010 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by fxprocessor
Price would also have hit a strong trendline. An easy pass for me :-)....
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I would've doubled my account on this one. 
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some other cool replies like Sir jarroo's
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It didn't work? It looks like it worked out just as expected. A successful Pin Bar in my book. 
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Apr 18, 2010 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by trade price
Hello everyone....
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Hello fellow Asian,
nice to see u here, Sir 
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Apr 18, 2010 8:58pm
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Haha no, just a fan. Thats Aaron Rodgers by the way, future hall of famer/legend 
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i've always thought that was u, heheh 
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Apr 18, 2010 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by Mauzzz
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Thanks! You summed it up very nicely...The question is, how do I figure this all out without going crazy?  ...
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u avoid going crazy by being sane. 
what i mean is be sane by following the advices/rules mentioned here (reading post #1 etc)
if u become crazy from all these, then u are not fit to trade, u are not good enough.
believe me, i bet i have the worst personal situation (no job, self-taught, family problems, stress/depression, blahblah etc) & yet i skirted the chance of literally getting crazy. with my situation, im sure most people wouldnt think twice of attempting suicide or the likes. my situation is that difficult.
im very sure u are luckier than i am (count your blessings). so i believe u have no right to get crazy.
always remember, if u dont quit, success is inevitable.
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Apr 19, 2010 3:27am
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Geez sChaos, hang in there, buddy.
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hahah. Thank you Sir.
my point in that post is NO one can get crazy until i become one FIRST. 
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Apr 19, 2010 10:01pm
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lol, always trade with a stop? 
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hahah. i was about to say that.
didnt they use stops/trail.stops? were they too busy at home? 
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Apr 19, 2010 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by Mauzzz
....I think I'm psychologically slowly getting to the point where the money is not really what's driving me forward, but rather the passion for trading and the desire to figure this all out and prove to myself that I CAN do it. Perhaps some senior member could tell me if that's, from their experience, a good way to approach this? What was and is the biggest motivation for you to trade?
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i have the same 'approach'.
as with many things in life, i consider this (to trade successfully) as a challenge.
my motivations:
to achieve my goals. see my profile.
to create & achieve bigger goals.
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To answer your question, "money" has been the single most important factor that has provided me with the fuel to search success in this business.
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personally, it's easy to & i have transcended the 'money part'.
in fact, there are certain things/jobs that i'll take even without remuneration.
Money is a means to an end, but it is not the only means.
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Apr 19, 2010 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by wh1zz0
AUD/USD getting ready to hit 0.95 baby. 
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 .. got a chart Sir?
perhaps if we get a bullish weekly close around/above 0.9350 - 0.9400.
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Apr 19, 2010 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by joelcf
Definitely. Drinks taster for Tallisker, scuba instructor on Maui,...
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precisely....
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seriously, is there such a job????
i wont do it for money. i will do it for Scarlett... for life 
where do i apply?
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Apr 19, 2010 10:33pm
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lol
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i'm 'stealing' your line 
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Apr 20, 2010 5:12am
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Egoman,
why 1.3490? got a chart?
like Sir smikester's said, do a lot of reading if u are really serious at succeeding in this business.
Good luck! 
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Apr 20, 2010 6:38am
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I hope the chart can explain in more detail.
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Thanks for the chart.
it's still unclear to me. why 1.3490?
in FXPro, the high of the PB is 1.3496ish. if we use this FXPro value then u have opened a buy prior the PB's close?
normally, we buy(a few pips) above the PB high.
like Chris_B said, price may have already hit the first target/trouble/traffic area.
currently we are hovering 1.3500.
so, depending on your risk appetite, u may opt to stay still (dont move stop), exit now, put stop to BE, or tighten stop.
trade management will depend on you 
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Last edited by supremeChaos, Apr 20, 2010 6:50am
Reason: buy 'above PB high', not 'above PB close'
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Apr 20, 2010 9:39am
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Borderline yahoo & oh-no!
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for those who took the trade it looks like that CAD PB will make parity at least, what a phenomena ?? all off off a daily PB
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it sure did. in fact, breached it.
currently below/at parity (1.00) 
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Apr 20, 2010 9:37pm
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Borderline yahoo & oh-no!
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please help lol. 3rd demo trade and the second time its happened...
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u are doing great Scotty.
would u rather have a losing trade than a BE? 
also, u are still finding your way/style.
dont be too hard on yourself (like i was/still am  )
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Apr 21, 2010 12:51am
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...you missed the bars when you drew your trend line.
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no, it must be a TL for a different timeframe. 
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Apr 21, 2010 5:37am
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Hello Trndsurfer,
IMO, it's too early to say if this will turn out to be an IPB.
we still have several hours left before that daily candle closes.
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Apr 21, 2010 6:33am
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nasir,
u mean audjpy price currently looks bullish? yeah.
let's see how it closes today/this week.
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Apr 21, 2010 8:02am
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smallkuku,
"long aj at 86.55.. wish me luck.."
based on what? got a chart?
if u rely solely on luck, then your trading will be no different than playing casino games, right? unless u are trading an advanced j16 style 
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Apr 21, 2010 8:29am
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....not exactly a james16 version , but a risky trade that bets on the formation of a pinbar..
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smallkuku,
Thanks for clarifying. 
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Apr 21, 2010 9:11pm
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Hello WizardPip,
if i may...
are u saying it's more attractive to take the bullish pin because, aside from the divergence, u have price back above the down trendline again?
IMO, the pin is small. zoom out & see the whole chart.
usdcad is in a huge downtrend. & this daily pin is too small to convince me that it will go considerably up at this point. also, the pin closed below the 1.0000 BRN (in my FXPro feed, at least).
if the pin has a huge nose & closed above 1.00, then it may be a different story.
this pin may be another 'pause pin' or a pause in the downtrend.
Hope this helps
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Apr 21, 2010 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by WizardPip
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I ask about trendlines because i have read people that doesnt use them at all, and doesnt trust them. If we rank based on its importance, trendlines are, say 10th and Pivot Zones 2nd, and round numbers 1st, right?
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Hector,
well, some use trendlines, i do too.
im not fond of ranking stuff in order of importance; every trader is unique.
rank/use what suits your taste.
yes, learning should never stop 
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Apr 21, 2010 10:22pm
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kk007,
the light blue line?
i used to try that before. i may try it again next time.
to strict TL plotters, that is an invalid TL because price has been pierced from both sides many times.
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