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Apr 22, 2010 6:21am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
Why did Price drop? Because everyone thought they would rise? Who knows? lol
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lol
very "Raccyy" of you jarroo...
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Apr 22, 2010 6:38am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
You got to get out more g. lol
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Not until I get my "International Relations" prep out of the way for the exam tomorrow
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Apr 22, 2010 6:46am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
This thread should count on your exam. You reach many people from around the World, my friend.
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That would come under globalization which is a relevant subtopic for the exam.
lol
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Apr 23, 2010 2:40am
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Originally Posted by lovejoy80
Ghous (or anyone else who understands IPB's better than I do)...would this be considered a good setup?
IPB @ top (weekly PPZ above) with divergence...if this is considered a good setup the it could give us an insight as to what will come tomorrow for xxx/jpy.
Thanks
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Absolutely brilliant!!!
g.
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Apr 23, 2010 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Atc
Am I reading this correct on IPB on these two charts E/A and G/CHF
and would these interest you and for what reasons
These are 4H charts
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I like these only deep into pull backs and at swing highs and lows.
A further deterring factor for me would be the large BEB and BUB just before the 2 IPBs you referred to.
Not untradabale but definitely far too risky...
g.
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Apr 23, 2010 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by relyt
I know this is a really old quote but I'm a newb and going through this thread from the start (need all the help I can get).
When James16 says that a BEOVB usually signals a continuation of the current trend does that mean no matter what the trend is?
Or does BEOVB only signal a continuation of a down-trend and BUOVB only signal a continuation of an up-trend?
I'll ask it another way, just to be clear:
Let's say there is an up-trend and we get a BEOVB. Would that still signal a continuation of an up-trend even though it's a "bearish"OVB?
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Hi there,
The dominant trend will always matter.
What James means by that post of his is that a BEOVB is normally a good continuation bar when the trend is down and a good reversal bar at a swing high if the trend is up. Conversely a BUOVB is normally a good continuation bar when the major trend is up and a good reversal bar when at a swing low of a downtrend.
here are a few examples.
g.
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Apr 23, 2010 12:23pm
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I'll be looking for an authoritative close.
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 6:48am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
Obviously A+ trades are so much easier to manage, I thought it would fun to show some different trade management strategies. I get many PMs about trade management so I thought I would answer some of those questions here. And did I mention that if would be fun.  ( I got to get out more myself ghous).
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Yeah this thread's been moving slow these days...like only at about 5 pages a day or so . You got to get out more .
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Apr 24, 2010 6:53am
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This one will go down as a forever memorable trade setup. Won't ever find a better example of the fact that markets are never 100% predictable.
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 7:03am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
If that Close was lower then the Open I wonder if that structue deficiency would have made the difference or at least gave up some more pips to the down side. Probably not.
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Might have been a minor factor J,
But too much was in favor of this one to give this setup anything less than an A+ IMHO.
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 7:09am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
I agree . . . . what was the stop loss on that one? . . . small . . lol
Yeah, chalk it up to not 100% but maybe 99% lol
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lol
yeah
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 7:34am
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Originally Posted by packhorse
Hi ghous,
A quick question. Do you have to be in James16 paid up group to use the James16 avatar on FF? I am really feeling part of this great thread.
Thanks
Glynn
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There are no such restrictions on the use of avatars as far as I know.
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 11:55am
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Originally Posted by lovejoy80
The only thing I could maybe say about that was that there was a lot of upside 'pressure' on price. Although a great setup for the IPB itself the chances of a follow through down through the low of the IPB was very low.
We have had a lot of matching highs and have an ascending triangle and with the formation of the IPB we have had a lower low than the 2 previous bars and atouch of the ascending TL...Thus in the formation of the IPB itself we have had a very quick rejection of the the TL and you could say that you can now expect buyers to have...
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Good observation.
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by nasir.khan
Yea but no one knows about this reversal IPB project except Ghous. How did you find out? 
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Jarroo being the experienced trader that he is, understood the potential of this PA bar the first time I mentioned it, he's been since watching them and was demoing them parallel to my experimentation.
smart A$$
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Apr 24, 2010 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by fxeturn
Just wondering what makes an A+ setup? How much of the information that needs to be stacked in our favor for a setup to be A+? For example, we have
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Originally Posted by fxeturn
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Most of what you asked has to be discretionary and hence will vary from trader to trader. This variance however has nothing to do with how successful or unsuccessful the trader is.
Mike (mbqb11) e.g would never take many of the setups Jarroo takes, because he's always on the look out for the ones that really stand out. Jarroo on the other hand will fiddle around (lucratively) with even the pretty ordinary bars because he knows how to handle them
. In other words what's A+ for jarroo may not be A+ for Mike, as is true for most other combos of traders you can think of.
I for one normally don't include pivot points or MAs in my analysis, and feel utterly satisfied if a good sized pin bar can come along at a decent location, at a round number pp,z with divergence maybe, but again that's just me, my style and risk appetite that I know works for me...
Take Nasir as an example. He'll go about trading the good locations even before PA provides the trigger, and has he been a failure because he didn't follow any "rules that were supposedly laid in stone by James16"??...hell NO!
Patience, common sense, time, and demo accounts is what you'll need to apply to a trial and error method to find the right system of entry/exit/management for your trades.
What we teach here, is a method not a system. g.
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Apr 24, 2010 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by triggerju
Nas, I found one thing which really really helps - apathy. I believe it's the missing link for most people. Just simply don't care about the money, the potential profit, the dream of being a financially successful trader, etc, it all means nothing. Just shrug your shoulders and be grateful you aren't suffering like some real poor people in this world. If you win, great. If you lose, great. How dare any of us expect to win anyway? We dont have a God given right to win at trading or in life in general. Tough. We think the market owes us some money??!...
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So it goes like this...
I am walking in the jungle when a large lion jumps out of the bushes, lick's its paws and locks his eyes on mine. I should really be expecting this lion to pounce on me the next second and tear me to pieces. If it just gives me a long stare and walks off I'd be...oh wait...real happy.
Good philosophy, not sure if it would apply to trading though. Pessimism as in
expecting a trade to lose is wrong. Excepting the capricious nature of markets is one thing, saying "this'll probably lose like every other part of my cr*ppy life but oh well here goes" before you take a trade is another. The differentiation is important (IMHO)
g.
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Apr 24, 2010 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by 4X=0
commentary fodder.
divergence, B quality OB, uptrend, MRN (minor round number)
looks like a pass
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What would matter for me the most is the close of the bar. To qualify as a trading opportunity in my book this BEOB needed to close below the 2 bar lows prior to this outside bar (marked on chart) AND with authority.
You could always play the "Jarroo hard break play" or any other that you may be comfortable with. In my book what took away the rosiness of this bar is the above mentioned fact.
I like'm bullying price
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Apr 25, 2010 2:56am
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
one on futures at VBRN, also, area looks SOLID on a daily chart. I'm thinking price will first creep up to the 500, then make it's way down to the FTA.
EDIT: very similar to how GBPJPY acted recently!
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Will be hawking this Dan,
thnx
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 4:03am
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You have your 500 Dan.
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 8:03am
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Originally Posted by jarroo
This reminds me of a James16 quote :
"The ultimate edge in trading is when a traders "use" of breakeven overpowers and conquers the "use" of hope."
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When did he say that?!
Damn this was a costly miss
thanks J.
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 8:19am
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Originally Posted by nasir.khan
Maybe in the PF.
Btw
I hope you don't take these. Or if you do you would't expect it to go below 425
Right????
lol 
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I would have shorted it just where you did Nasir...
Oh wait! You longed it..well...err...umm...the IPB isn't all that good I might would have passed on it. Good trade buddy.
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lol
Dare a I go against the great Nasir Khan,
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 8:24am
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Originally Posted by nasir.khan
It's coming down.

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My guess would be...swing high stuff? 
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Apr 26, 2010 8:50am
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Originally Posted by nasir.khan
Well if i am taking a touch trade right in between a range near a swing high,
i should have a strong reason, and i think i have it. 
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Now we're talkin' 
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Apr 26, 2010 10:25am
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Originally Posted by 2010
hi, senior traders,
I am demo trading G/U on 4hr chart, is this a valid IPB? By now it looks ok, but need your comments.
Thanks in advance.
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I like that stop placement.
I mentioned earlier that I like IPBs which have their shorter wicks inside the range of the previous bar as I can then place my stop above the previous bar's low/high for added security.
this one was a good example, I didn't take it but should be fun to watch how it unfolds.
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
sell limit @ 500.00, S/L @ 510, trouble areas highlighted.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by 2010
hi, ghous,
Thank you for the comment
Your data feed is a little bit different with the chart I posted (FXPro). My question is, if the close price of the IPB is higher than the close of the previous bar, is the IPB still good?
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It is still good. What makes or breaks an IPb setup IMHO is the length of the longer wick on the IPB. The body and the other wick have to be small of course but what I really look for is a long tail which preferably covers most part of the previous bar (the bar before the IPB)
The Gu IPB would hence qualifies as a good setup in my book.
g.
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Apr 26, 2010 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
how the hell.... I don't even.... ?????
I cannot understand what happend there....
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Do we care?
It's PA at its very best for us.
Great trading Dan 
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Apr 26, 2010 2:14pm
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Fire illusion.
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Apr 27, 2010 7:39am
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Originally Posted by Trndsurfer
ok IPB on daily eu, short from 1.3364, took half off ay 1.3320, stop to be.
what think you?
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Me thinks the IPB looks good in terms of shape, but clearly sucks given that it is almost at a swing low...Shorting thiz IPB means you're heading straight into the triple bottom Eu set for it self so nicely.
I like to trade them at swings or at pull backs to major trends.
g.
EDIT: I see jarroo already covered a good bit of what I said in my post above, he needs a break and I keep telling him that, he just won't listen.
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Apr 27, 2010 7:53am
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Originally Posted by Atc
For example NZD/USD-----On a 4h chart when we see a good setup---at the close of the 4h bar and we place an order for the break of that bar long above that bar.
For some reason I am confused....I thought I have heard or read or seen in a J16 webinar that we want to see a break or confirmation in the direction of our trade.
Does this mean we should see it happen in the first 30 mins., 1 hr., 2 hr., etc. of a 4 hr bar....
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hey Bill,
I take the Usdchf 4H Pin bar as an example.
To take this pin bar long you place a stop order 5-10 (for 4 hour TF) pips above the high of the pin bar, and wait for price to hit your order. Once it does you are in a conventional James16 trade, which you can then manage as per your personal trade management methods.
Abt the question regarding the time it should take to break...well honestly speaking the great setups will do what they are supposed to do in quick time mostly, I generally like to see this or else I'll just kill the trade for BE or small gain/loss (if at all my limit/stop order has been triggered). But again it's not a hard and fast rule, and an awful lot will depend on the location and the quality of setup.
The cherry shown below was right off 1.07 and at a price flip, it broke but didn't quite rocket on the very next bar. Question is would you hold the trade 4 hours after the pin bar formed seeing that it didn't have the momentum you would possibly have wanted? The answer has to be discretionary, and the correct one is often deciphered with a lot of trial and error.
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Apr 27, 2010 11:51am
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
It's the I4B straddling the 1.0000 we were discussing on USDCAD recently....
I was very hesitant on this one, BUT, I4B's that straddle very big round numbers fail very very very very rarely. Easily the best PA setup in J16.
counter trend risk 1%. And with just one trade, I almost have my weekly average goal of a 1% gain.
first target, move to B/E, second target T/P.
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very nice Dan, I see you've been digging these tiny bars deep.
I've never really gone into the IXB but I am lining this up for sure.
Great trade buddy.
g.
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Apr 28, 2010 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
very nice trade.
Look what I'm going to do for a live account touch trade. (1% risk)
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Ballsy Stuff Dan,
What's going to hold price at 95 in your opinion?
g.
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Apr 28, 2010 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
well on a weekly chart, we are in a strong down trend, and have been for a very long time.
this retracement has been real slow, and 61.8 is my favorite fib, I also love vbrn.
the only thing that is ballsy here is my 50 pip stop. a 100 pip stop would be much "safer" but I'm not scurred. I like this one a lot.
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Thnx Bro. wanted to know what were the odds you stacked up for for this one,
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Apr 28, 2010 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by jarroo
The 95.00 looks pretty strong; BRN, PPZ and 61.8 fib
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Thnx to you too big man. 
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Apr 28, 2010 2:32pm
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Now this is a IPB. 
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yeah that was just about as good as it can get.
Too bad I was busy selling some lotion over clickbank which (supposedly) grew back hair on a bald scalp when this IPB came about.
I sometime wonder where I'd be today if I had got myself into this biz a couple of years earlier than I did,
but then I quickly get over it when I think where I'd be, had I not discovered you guys and your stuff early enough in my life .
g.
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Apr 28, 2010 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by jarroo
I feel the same way at times. Wishing I started in my 20's . . .what a mintue . . are you 20 yet g? Your future looks very very bright my friend. 
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Thnx my friend.
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Apr 28, 2010 2:45pm
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OOOOooooohhhhh!!!!
3000 posts up! Seems like a couple of months ago that I made my first post ever on the thread. Time really flies!
g.
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Apr 28, 2010 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
which future? copper? I don't know ghous's favorite future... enlighten me!
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you got to get that loss out of the way Dan.  ...
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Apr 28, 2010 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
the demo trades are cluttering my mind!
lol.....
I'm coming up on post 1000 vbrn I hope to be here for thousands more. the picture folder I have for forex on my computer takes a very long time to load these days 
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We look forward for your staying here and being envied for those I4B runners,
lol
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Apr 28, 2010 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by triger88990
Ghous congrats for your accomplishments  3000 is a very bold round number, sure mike's love it.
had to work more harder to catch you, one day.......one day
all the best!! 
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I'd love to have you chase me around if it really is you in your profile pic. 
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Apr 28, 2010 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
speaking of I4Bs, that USDCAD one is already retracing, but I closed the whole thing out at 1.0100 round number, so I guess Mikes method of being realistic and closing out your trade quickly is legit. (surprise!)
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I know NOTHING about IPBs, its funny cause people hop into this thread late and assume it is a J16 bar. Not that it isn't an effective one, I have been trying to keep an eye out. These days I just don't seem to have time to test things to add. I wish I did still.
I did see this one yesterday and thought of our G man
Mike
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I remember in a webinar of yours you were asked a question about a bullish IPB on the euro weekly...despite the fact that you're not into them you provided the best explanation possible.
I tried to search through the members at the pf who this guy/gal was so I could talk the setup out with him/her, was his user name "spider" or what? 
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Apr 28, 2010 3:11pm
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LOL
let here alone she own me
have you look lately on your profile message
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I did. But an inner urge tells me that's really you staring at us from that profile of yours. 
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Apr 28, 2010 3:17pm
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What date webinar I will go back to it ?
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I don't precisely remember but I guess it was the 2-15-10 webinar...perhaps.
Here's the IPB that the query was referred to...
Funny thing is you still don't know how to pronounce my name 
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Apr 28, 2010 3:29pm
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GOSS like BOSS I know now
Yes it was spyder 
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Spyder...
thnx Mikey.
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Apr 28, 2010 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by triger88990
I never thought that I look like jessica alba  .........
I really begin questioning my sexuality 
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Haha! Just playin' around you trig, although I shouldn't be...I am way beyond bedtime

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Apr 28, 2010 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by triger88990
know buddy
now go to bad and shut-eye down tomorrow it will be another day
all the best!!
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I, I sergeant!!
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