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Nov 5, 2008 3:53pm
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Nov 5, 2008 4:10pm
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i was wondering who it would be. congrats.
who would have thunk it all those days ago. i know i sure didnt.
all of you have blessed me far more than i have you. trust me on that.
you have made me a better trader, a better person, a better husband, a better father and a better world citizen.
your trust in me forced me to look at some areas of my life that needed improvement.
i guess i wont know all the reasons behind this threads beginning and growth until i meet the next world but, it made me think about the next world, which was a catalyst for some inner growth successes i had been battling with for years.
when you have this many people watching what your doing and add to it that money is involved you better watch what you say and do.
you better think before you act or talk and you damn sure better try to do the right thing when no one is watching.
all of this might have been stressful if i were up to no good but since my heart WAS in the right place it has had a tremendously positive effect on my life which im greatful for.
very greatful,
jim
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1000 THX for this thread.
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Nov 5, 2008 4:12pm
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god that sounds like a load of fun. made me wanna do it just reading it.
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Bugger!!....I've been away on a trading/internet-free sojourn in tropical Queensland and missed the 1000 page party
Congrats Jim, Mike and the crew here....I'll make it to the 2000 post party I promise.
Good trading all.
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Nov 5, 2008 5:03pm
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hello wiz,
i always enjoy seeing you post in the thread. this gives me a segway.
i like to watch the weekly chart on quite a few commodity markets. especially those that must still be traded thru the pit. many are going electronic like soybeans which makes things much much easier.
waiting 10 minutes on a fill while basing your trading on a daily chart can be really tough. stay on weekly in a pit traded market. pit traded markets would include meats/some energies/softs like coffee/cocoa etc..
even some current electronic markets still have liquidity problems compared to there pit counterpart. you have to be careful.
you just gotta dig in and spend some time learning just like anything else.
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Speaking of price action across a whole range of tradable instruments...I'm waiting for something to occur at this important chart point in Soybeans...
Jim, hope you are well...it's Christmas soon...might have to rustle up some of those shortbreads again...lol
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Nov 5, 2008 5:10pm
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i dont know but that sure is a nice pivot zone at 11600. i also noticed the pin bar at a double top at 11700 that was an easy trade to the 11600 level. real nice pivot zone at 11300 as well.
jim
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Will a breakout of this flag continuation pattern take us through the double top in the European bond market (Bunds)?
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Nov 5, 2008 5:13pm
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great raz,
how are you guys screening for these set ups?
jim
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i also took that hum trade. it was perfect.
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Nov 5, 2008 5:14pm
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thats very kind of you jatt. i appreciate it.
jim
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You are a Good man Jim. Thanks for sharing this hard earned knowledge with us and Congrats for crossing the 1000 mark.
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Nov 5, 2008 6:13pm
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well i started to say a lot and then noticed something about your set up. before i say does anyone else see what i see?
jim
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Originally Posted by the_wizard
Actually quick question Jim from one fellow Bund trader to another
What do you think of this setup circled?
Price was in the middle of a range i.e. the large hourly flag but it rallied into an hourly pivot and the 61 fib of the swing and then formed a nice pin. I got short at the bottom, stayed in it for 36 hours before being stopped out.
I thought I was onto something....
In your opinion, was it a good trade that was just unlucky or should I have stayed away while it was in the middle of the big range like that?
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Nov 5, 2008 6:17pm
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guest video
some of you come by the guest area from time to time. i just posted a 10 minute video there under guest material and under my name dated for today.
anytime something new goes up on the guest side i will try and remember to let you guys/gals know.
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Nov 5, 2008 6:30pm
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its not a pin bar wiz. see why?
jim
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...now I'm wondering what's coming?! 
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Nov 5, 2008 9:41pm
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i just want to make sure everyone understands that since the low of this bar exceeded the prior bars low it cannot be a pin bar. a lot of people make this mistake even when they absolutly know what a pin bar is because visually this just jumps out at you as a pin bar. it has a long nose, it has its open and close within the prior bar but as in this case the low of the bar is not contained. i also have made this mistake and to this day i still can if i dont look closely at EVERY bar im thinking is a pin at first glance.
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its not a pin bar wiz. see why?
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Nov 5, 2008 10:07pm
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its always nice when your dealing with someone like wiz that sees a simple mistake and takes it as a learning lesson. i still learn them all the time.
what i would add to this is the following.
1. this IS one hour and must be treated as such.
2. you were given two chances to take profit or get your stop to breakeven.
3. when you saw that second attempt fail at the 11650 area this is a clear sign that its time to get your stop to BE or take some profit.
this is just another one of those examples where several scenarios could have played out for different traders. there were two chances at a profit. there were two chances at breakeven and there was the loss scenario.
these are usually always the options though arent they? time, practice, account size and experience determines which path is followed most often.
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Originally Posted by the_wizard
LOL I can't believe it. Of course it's not. The low is below the low of the previous candle. I have no idea why I didn't see that before. You've just opened my eyes
Been trading these for what seems like an age now and fell for the oldest trick in the book. Not looking properly.
I must be getting old. lol
Having said that, I was particularly concerned not with the candle itself but WHERE it appears, which is after all, one of the most important parts of the strategy I believe. The level is what turns the market and the pin is just the market tipping its hand as to what way it's going to go. With that in mind I wondered whether my level was good enough to warrant selling off...
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Nov 6, 2008 5:57pm
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i think ryan would be the first to say he is not the norm. if not i will say it. lol.
the vast majority of people never even get decent at trading 5 minute and i dont care how many years they try. the ones that do generally have years of experience, a large account and a complete refusal to take anything other than an A++ entry. also dont forget they need a solid method that is based on price and not indicators. very few people get there either.
i personally trade intraday on a tick chart and sometimes a volume chart. sometimes its equivelent to a 5 minute or less and sometimes a 30 minute or more. i like a 2000 tick chart and as i said one time before i may very well be the only person on the planet that uses 2000.
that was not stumbled upon, it came as a result of practicing all the things i preach over many many years. it just fits me.
its much easier than standard time frame trading. it makes intraday forex trading a hundred time easier, or at least it does for me.
is there anything wrong with demo trading any time frame you want? of course not. its the smartest thing a new trader can do. prove to yourself early on that your much better off learning this business from a longer time frame and then over time see if you can progress down.
the problem is of course that most new traders have two or three days of success on 5 minute demo, become convinced they have fouind a pot of gold, open an account with rent money and lose it all within a month.
that finger points at me also but it was a while back thankfully.
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Originally Posted by Ryanmcd
I do better on the 5min vs the 4hr but I did trade several years off the 3min and my mentor of 20 years did the same. I think it depends on the person. I don't trade the 5min for a quick profit I trade it due to I handle is better mentally and emotionally.
In fact I signed up to J16 to try to learn how to trade the longer times so I don't have to watch it but it just did not work. 
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Nov 6, 2008 7:00pm
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I totally understand this and you make a great point. i am a lot like you to be honest. its really not one or the other, it can be both.
when daytrading its easy for me to watch 8 hours go by and do nothing knowing that when that one great entry comes im going to cash in on 5 or 10 grand in an hour or less. i just simply could not force myself to be patient when that reward only meant a hundred dollars.
thats why i say all the time you can take the same trader and give him a $500 dollar and a $100 thousanddollar account and turn him loose to trade intraday. he will blow that 500 dollar account sure as anything. he will on the other hand have a pretty decent chance with the large account.
why? because its much easier to sit on your hands waiting for a great set up
when it means thousands of dollars versus 50 bucks or less.
combine a great method with a large account and combine a burning desire to succeed. ie(patience,practice,demo, treat it as a business kind of stuff)
and you got a shot. the small account kills people because its hard as hell to sit for hours for next to nothing. they always end up trading just to trade and thats what kills people experienced or not.
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I respect you Jim, but there is one thing - it's about personality, some people, like me, are very patient, I can wait hours,days and weeks for a good setup but im not patient for holding trades. I feel really bad if I have trade open on daily, everytime I worry about, every 10min and less i must see that trade, I'm nervous etc. Well , what happens? I can find beautiful d1 trade and then i run out quickly after some hours. When I'm trading m5-m15, I feel great, I have no problem with waiting " the one and only trade today" and it's ok when i hold this. and 2nd point is, 10 pips and 2% is the same as 600 pips and 2% (after few days)
Why should i tease myself with D trades?(again, it's just about...
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Nov 6, 2008 8:31pm
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i admire you. very few people can keep the correct mindset over the long haul when attempting to take a small account to a large one. i tried for almost a decade and never succeeded with this approach. as a result i have a deep respect for those of you that accomplish this.
jim
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Originally Posted by Jankone
btw i have an another example : Sometimes i miss really perfect ( I watch other chart or i'm doing other things) a+ setup m5/m15, what happened? I my mind, there is an evil who say " omg, no ! I have to take next time something like this, not a+, maybe b setup but i will trade ! yes ! |"
Sure, it's the biggest mistake in "mindset", What happened usually?
you miss A+ trade, then u take some b- stupid nosense trade "just for trade and good feeling", it's b-, they fail more than A+, then you see again a+.. (oh damn, is it really best one? =fear from last b- trade), again miss. again same "inner voice"
It happens to many traders over and over again imo.
Jim, i think i have small account,...
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Nov 6, 2008 8:33pm
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once again ryan makes a post that finds me shaking my head in agreement in remembrance of my own journey in this business.
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I watched 8-10 hours a day for 7 days a few weeks ago and took...
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Nov 6, 2008 8:48pm
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ok i changed it.
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Jim,im sry,word "commended" - i dont understand, even in dictionary it doesnt make sense.
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Nov 6, 2008 9:04pm
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i sensed you were a fighter. thats what life is all about anyway. keep fighting to know the truth of who we are and why we are here and try to reach a point where your happiness does not depend on anything outside of you.
if it were not hard there would be no point in being here. life is a school--nothing more. its actually a very short trip we take but while we are here it seems long and arduous.
for some reason you triggered my esoteric side.
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Oh, thanks man , What a honour, it's you, who give me great idea how to make a bussiness. I'm still little trader but hard fighter. 
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Nov 6, 2008 10:50pm
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i could be totally wrong but i would bet that ryan does not go there with people for one reason. its impossible for him to answer that and its impossible for him to explain why. you have to see that shore for yourself. it cannot be described. every trade is its own circumstance and every trade will be treated differently IF NEEDED. of all the emails i get it is ones like this that leave me staring at the screen, wanting to reply, but unable because it really cant be put into words. its like riding a bike. how do you tell someone how to ride a bike? you cant. they have to get on and try.
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Ryan, i dont know, why you dont answer @ PM?
I'd like to hear one answer , only one question : How do you set sl/pt - we have 10/20/25 pips pinbar, do you use 1:1 SL/TP ?
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Nov 12, 2008 1:11pm
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careful, this is not an outside bar. outside bars must totally engulf the prior bar. its easy to do this so look real close when labeling bars. looks like your really getting involved with the thread betard. good for you. 5 minute? you guys worry me but hey anyone that has read this thread knows how i feel about time frames.
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Here's a 5 minute trade I just took. BUOB, not touching the middle BB or EMA but still looked pretty good to me.
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Nov 12, 2008 3:14pm
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2000 tick chart entry on eur/usd
here is the kind of intraday entry i take and why.
there is nothing on this chart other than price and floor trader pivots. floor trader pivots mean nothing to me unless i can find some confluence to go with them. the only thing missing here is a set up bar which is not always needed if you have enough confluence. IM POSTING THIS FOR ONE REASON. if your entries have nothing more than one criteria to enter your gonna get screwed. here are the reasons/confluence behind this entry decision. this entry was taken at 2795 and had around a 5 pip drawdown as it reached for 2800.
in the blue box we have.
1. a pure 50 fib retrace to the substantial number of 2800.
2. a clear price flip at 2800. (j16 pivot zone).
3. a floor trader pivot at 2775. very close and confluence with the others listed above.
4. setting a stop just above 2850 gives me the 61.8 fib level and the 2850 level to prevent my stop from being hit. THIS COMBINED WITH MY ENTRY CRITERIA VIRTUALLY GUARUNTEES I WILL AT THE VERY LEAST GET MY STOP TO BREAKEVEN AND CERTAINLY GIVE MYSELF THE OPTION TO TAKE PARTIAL PROFIT SHOULD I DESIRE.
THIS IS DIRT SIMPLE. THE ONLY THING HARD ABOUT IT IS WAITING FOR THINGS TO SET UP AND NOT GETTING TRIGGER HAPPY.
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Nov 12, 2008 4:23pm
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based on actual trades. there are many advantages in my opinion. one of the biggest is it virtually elimates very large bars. very large bars are heart attacks for most traders and where they tend to really lose control when managing a trade.
just google it. ton of good explanations but your going to find most traders using small increments like 150 etc..
2000 works nicely for me and keeps my number oif trades at a minimum and allows me to more easily rifle shot my entries.
just me of course some do it differently.
jim
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I'm new to this idea of a tick charts. In for example the 2000 tick chart, does each bar simply represent how the price moved in the last 2000 fluctuations, with no regard to the time frame over which they occurred? So in a fast moving market your 2000 tick bar would open and close over a shorter time frame than a slow moving market? Can you use this to judge the momentum in a move?
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Nov 12, 2008 4:33pm
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i know this is like a monthly chart to ryan. lol.
but ya know what? it sure is nice to have a potential fortune in the making based on a daytrade entry. THERE IS NOTHING MORE GRATIFYING than nailing a daytrade entry and its accompanying lot size and watching it turn into a great swing or position trade.
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Nice chart Jim, always nice to see how others play it. For me that would be a long term trade 
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Nov 12, 2008 4:51pm
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the easiest way to do this unless someone that can actually type wants to jump in is to just google both of them. they are both very simple terms to understand. your not clogging up anything. thats what we are here for. you wont get flamed in this thread.
jim
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Hi ya James16,
Thanx for the excellent post again..
Sorry but could you explain what the floor trader pivot is or is that just the normal Pivot Points on a daily chart?
Also sorry the chart being a 2000tick is that just a normal daily chart?..
Sorry peoples for clogging up the thread with most probably silly questions  ..
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Nov 12, 2008 5:32pm
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thats one heck of a great question.
i have never made a secret of the fact that i know the futures markets and how they operate much better than the forex markets. another form of trade based charts are volume charts. they are also available with tradestation. for years i have gone back and forth between the two and one of my longest running projects is trying to figure out a way to use them together to refine entries. im a chart freak to an extreme. when i first started trading forex i got sidetracked trying to "understand" the market/s and it was a mistake. all i really need or want to know about any instrument or market is. ?????
1. can it be charted.
2. are there times when volitility is high.
3. can i know when that time is.
4. can i get in and out easily.
5. did my demo process tell me that what i do works in this market.
i trade stock symbols all the time that i dont even know the name of the company. i could care less. does it have a chart and do i see a great set up?
everything else is a waste of my time.
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Hi Jim,
Do tick charts that, for example, one Forex broker offers show the number of contracts traded at that single brokerage firm or do they indicate the number of contracts traded all over the world at that time?
Thx,
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Nov 20, 2008 1:51pm
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NEW GUEST VIDEO
for those of you that keep an eye on the guest area i just posted an excerpt from the 11-13-08 webinar. its pretty long. hope you enjoy it.
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Nov 20, 2008 3:52pm
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here ya go. please remember that this takes a little time and practice. price should have reached the 5100 level so no excuses from me i would just ask one question if i were talking to some of you that took this trade.
IF IT HAD reached 5100 (it was 27 pips short) and reversed what would you have done?
once again THIS WAS a failed pin bar but there are always things to learn from them. things that might have kept you out or prevented a loss if IT HAD reached 5100..
jim
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Jim,
Would just like to echo Jarroo(also a great man!) comments..............you keep us imbued with hope and optimism when we feel a little lost and all alone! Would love your critique of the failed 1day pin on the EUCHF today if you have the time,
best wishes,
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Nov 20, 2008 5:13pm
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YES!!!
THIS IS CRITICAL.
WE MUST LEARN TO:
1. notice a strong s/r area just beyond our pa if it exists.
2. know that if we trade into it we had better be prepared for a quick reversal that could give us a loss if we are not prepared.
if we know its there we have several choices.
1. get out when it gets there for a small profit.
2. take a small partial profit and move the remainder to BE.
3. stay in with your total position hoping for a break and move your stop to BE.
4. Dont enter until the level has been broken.
in the case we are looking at this level was a big round number at 5100. trading into a big number like that with a defined pivot is very very very risky. the fact remains however that price most of the time WILL reach that first s/r area whether its 200 pips or 20. in this case it did not which makes number 4 a good choice much of the time exspecially for those new to these methods.
good post as usual jarroo and i appreciate your help in this thread,
jim
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So if a Pin Bar (or any PA set-up for that matter) is sitting on or is near a S/R level, a better entry to look for is not necessarily the break of the PA set-up. But below the S/R level that it is sitting on. Makes sense to me Jim, Thanks.
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Nov 20, 2008 5:19pm
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thanks guys,
go compare that one hour chart in the video as it stood on 11-13 to todays chart of it. put your lines on it and get ready to smile.
oh and btw, DAN GOT HIS MOVE TO EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE DUISCUSSING.
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This is how we roll.
Always learning and improving.
Great webinar as always Jim.
Jim
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Nov 20, 2008 5:24pm
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DAMN NICE RAC.
THIS POST LITERALLY MADE ME CLAP.
JIM
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It's been a busy day...
Here are few of my trades for today. They were all executed when Dow Jones matched the low from October 7, 2002. PA has always been great to me, but I hope you guys also keep an eye on over all markets. When DJ's approaching 6 year low, this is definitely a golden opportunity (sparks will fly) if you know which pairs to chose for trading...  . TPs had been hit.
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Nov 20, 2008 5:28pm
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very nice hip and isnt it aways nice to see bar lows as in this case broken for a larger move?
real nice.
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A little fun on the 30 min, pin off prior support during NY open.
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Nov 23, 2008 2:50pm
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very nice.
i especially like the 3 months of demo.
get involved because the new people need to know that demo and chart time are crucial before going live.
jim
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Well, I am one of the guys that follow the thread but never post. 
But I swear that I will contribute more.
I started to trade forex two years ago but I've never had consistency in my balance. In the beggining of this year I started to read this whole thread. What amazing thread!! I did my 3 months of demo trading and some months ago I came back to trade with my live account.
So, since I was "naked" and apply what I learned with you guys, my account always grow up!
So, I wanna thank James, Jarroo, Raczekfx and all the other guys that make...
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Dec 1, 2008 6:29pm
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If you throw enough stuff on a forum some of it has to be right to quote right? The real question is if you are so good at trading why work 2 jobs?
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Dec 1, 2008 6:31pm
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Ghous
The thing that bothered me was the PB itself, very small and with two holidays i wondered if it was as valid as a regular PB. I would have preferred a longer nose. I took this on demo only as i am presently not comfortable unless it is clearly with the trend. PA is king but unless you really know your ppz very well (aka rac) then I don't enjoy fighting strong momentum.
I had my fib drawn differently and it seems to line up with the s/r already there so i was quite happy with location. Was not expecting alot of pips however.
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Dec 1, 2008 10:56pm
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you mean to check for optimal pullbacks into the trend? here are two and both show good pullbacks.
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Jim, i have a question,
WHy don't you have fibs drawn from the highs of August and July??
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Dec 2, 2008 1:40pm
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ryan im not sure why your going off the deep end but thanks for your contributions. your post says to me that there is far more going on in your life than irritation in this thread. i hope the best for you.
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Take care everyone, I am done posting on here. I will say a few ppl have been great like Mike and James. Don't PM me as I will no respond. Not really sure why I was helping random people that 1/2 ass trading on a internet forum anyway lol
Cya
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Dec 2, 2008 1:49pm
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yes it usually comes soon after you wake up in your office in the fetal position. its kind of like what the buddha says about enlightenment.
when you have suffered enough and can stand it no longer revelation comes.
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I know exactly what you talking about when you mentioned that some traders want to be in a trade all the time. unfortunately, that's the problem with me. i've been struggling with it since i started trading about 6 months ago. i still take these crappy trades. i tell myself everyday that this is not the way to go, but it's stronger than me;( do you think that we can actually learn patience?
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Breaking NEWS
For those of you (mostly young) that think money is going to make you happy your in for a big let down if you ever get there.
If you try to base your happiness on anything outside of you its always going to be a short lived experience.
this is something we get into in the group and i have never shared it here but perhaps i will from time to time. here is a small start.
"Do you want to be happy? Uninterrupted happiness is uncaused. True happiness is uncaused. You cannot make me happy. You are not my happiness. You say to the awakened person, "Why are you happy?" and the awakened person replies, "Why not?"
Happiness is our natural state. Happiness is the natural state of little children until they have been polluted and contaminated by the stupidity of society and culture. To acquire happiness you don't have to do anything, because happiness cannot be acquired. Does anybody know why? Because we have it already. How can you acquire what you already have? Then why don't you experience it? Because you've got to drop something. You've got to drop illusions. You don't have to add anything in order to be happy; you've got to drop something. Life is easy, life is delightful. It's only hard on your illusions, your ambitions, your greed, your cravings. Do you know where these things come from? From having identified with all kinds of labels!"
Anothony De Mello
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Dec 2, 2008 3:27pm
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yep ive been trying to wake up since i was a kid.
its hard, a lot harder than trading,
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I like what you read besides trading,Jim.
Some of that stuff should be read by traders.
It will only make you wanna be a better person and that positive energy will fuel everything you do.
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Dec 2, 2008 5:29pm
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your the kinda people i want in this thread ash.
thanks,
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Hey, without revealing too much but I have been in the same boat. My dad had businesses but lost it all with economic down turn after 9/11. We saw some very dark days but my dad never gave up (I prpobably did) but he was able to get back up on his feet because he never gave up. He kept on struggling and he had family and friends that were very supportive of him.
Now I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I didn't grow up with money, my parents came from a humble background. My mom always keeps on telling me "dark days don't always last"...
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Dec 2, 2008 5:35pm
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good to see you hanging out MT.
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Hehe thanks. You guys are a riot...
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Dec 4, 2008 10:38pm
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Dec 4, 2008 10:39pm
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lol. its back. noticed something i needed to add.
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Dec 5, 2008 4:39pm
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nice chart life,
Notice what started this entire move down in oil. a bearish outside bar at an extreme high.
huge fortunes have been made in this down move. I mean HUGE.
I know a guy that has a 3 year old daughter and he purchased leap put options off of this bar in HER retirement account. leaps are just options with a lot of time left before expiration
That little girl now has more sitting in that account than most 65 year olds do when they retire.
never ever forget that knowledge is power. it can be used for good or bad but its power none-the-less.
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Dec 5, 2008 6:12pm
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say what? mike is sick?
say it aint so mikey,
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Mike, shouldn't you be in bed right now. LOL
Hope your feeling better bro.
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Dec 5, 2008 6:50pm
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nice.
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Thought I'd throw some weekly's into the mix.
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Dec 8, 2008 1:39pm
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Amen brother.
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man, this thread has been hopping lately! good to see the old timers adding their invaluable insights. Forex Factory truly is a great community. minus the trolls of course. 
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Dec 8, 2008 2:30pm
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HERE I GO AGAIN
Anyone that has actually read this entire thread knows that I make the following post about every 3 to 6 months. Its been a while and I see a lot of new people so here it comes again. I know im being scrooge on a really good day but this is why i do what i do. I try to keep you from going thru the heartache and financial distruction i did many years ago.
I dont care how you choose to trade. It could be with a clean chart like we do here or it could be with 182 different indicators on your chart. It does not matter.
If your new to trading and your trading with real money on 1 hour charts your not gonna make it.
Obviously the following is just my opinion. it is not intended to start a debate. It is my opinion based on almost 26 years of experience. Take it as you will but never forget that this business has the potential to take good and decent people and ruin them. not just there money but there very lives.
The following has been beaten to death i know but i dont care. If it wakes up one person then its worth it.
If you are new to trading and/or you have had difficulty finding some consistent success, you must understand something. This is not a game and it's not a way to get rich quick. I suppose there is the odd exception of the person with a ton of money to play with, but if you approach this business without a business plan and the willingness to follow it, you are almost certainly doomed to failure. A doctor spends ten plus years in a grueling learning curve to be successful and earn a six figure income; anyone who thinks that their pot of gold in this business is a couple of months down the road is in for a rude awakening.
Below is a minimum requirement (in my opinion) to find out without losing your @#!@#$%$# if this business is for you. By following these recommendations, you will be treating trading like a business and you will be learning and gaining confidence. I think this is so important, I am going to make the following statement: If you start out in this business using no common sense, you have no one to blame other than yourself when you lose all your money.
There is no reason to ever lose a dime of your money while learning to trade. A well thought-out business plan, common sense and hard work is required for anyone who wants a chance at success. Many people meet those requirements and still fail, but it does not mean you have to watch your bank account go to zero.
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS / THIS IS A BUSINESS
WHATEVER / WHICHEVER WAY YOU DECIDE TO TRADE YOU MUST (AT A MINIMUM): - ON DAILY AND WEEKLY TIME-FRAMES, YOU ONLY DEMO-TRADE FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE PROFITABLE MONTHS IN A ROW. YOU DO NOT PROCEED TO STEP TWO UNTIL COMPLETED.
- OPEN AN ACCOUNT WITH HALF OF THE INVESTMENT YOU INTENDED TO GO FULL WITH AND CONTINUE TO ONLY TRADE DAILY AND WEEKLY TIME-FRAMES UNTIL YOU ARE PROFITABLE THREE MONTHS IN A ROW MINIMUM. YOU NEVER RISK MORE THAN TWO PERCENT OF YOUR ACCOUNT ON ANY ONE TRADE. YOU DO NOT PROCEED TO STEP THREE UNTIL STEP TWO IS COMPLETED.
- FUND A FULL ACCOUNT AND CONTINUE TO ONLY TRADE DAILY AND WEEKLY TIME-FRAMES UNTIL YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY BUILDING YOUR ACCOUNT FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. YOU NEVER RISK MORE THAN 2 OR 3 PERCENT OF YOUR ACCOUNT ON ANY ONE TRADE.
- IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE TO DAYTRADE ON A SMALL TIME-FRAME AND YOU DON'T FOLLOW THIS TEMPLATE, AT A MINIMUM, YOU ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY GOING TO FIND YOURSELFE IN TROUBLE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO FOLLOW A SYSTEM OR ANY TRADING STYLE AND YOU DON'T FOLLOW THIS TEMPLATE AS FAR AS THE DEMO PROCESS, YOU ARE NOT TREATING IT AS A BUSINESS AND YOU HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME OTHER THAN YOURSELF IF YOU LOSE YOUR MONEY.
- IF YOU EVER SUFFER THE LOSS OF 30 TO 35 PERCENT OF YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU STOP TRADING. PERIOD-PARAGRAPH. YOU GO BACK TO DEMO AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WENT WRONG. WHILE DOING THIS, YOU REFUND YOUR ACCOUNT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL AMOUNT. YOU DO NOT GO BACK TO LIVE TRADING AGAIN UNTIL YOUR DEMO HAS SHOWN YOU WHAT WENT WRONG AND YOUR ACCOUNT IS BACK TO FULL STRENGTH BY WHATEVER MEANS. IF IT TAKES ONE MONTH OR SIX MONTHS, IT DOES NOT MATTER. YOU MUST FOLLOW THIS APPROACH IF YOU DON'T WANT BLOWN ACCOUNT AFTER BLOWN ACCOUNT.
Your goal should be this. Learn, learn and learn some more and don't do anything stupid while your getting your feet on the ground. The ultimate goal of any trader is to build an account to a size where just a few good trades a month produces a staggering income. Hardly anyone ever gets there because they don't treat it as a business. They do stupid things that they would never do in any other area of their life and it's because of the money that can be made. If it takes you a couple of years or even five or ten to reach the level of a staggering income, is it worth it? The choice is yours.
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LOL. You feeling better mike? my wife came down with it yesterday which usually means i am next.
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scrooge?! I think most of us think you are Santa Clause with this stuff!
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Dec 8, 2008 5:26pm
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i just always want people to know that i realise its hard. i lost almost 300 thousand dollars (somewhere in that range) in 8 years from around 1984 to 1993. There IS a reason why stats show a 95 percent failure rate in this business.
I came to the conclusion long ago that its not due to the inability to find a method that works. Its mainly a total mental disconnect with reality. Common sense just disappears. The fact that a person can learn this business without risking a dime makes that stat even more crazy.
The single biggest reason for failure IN MY OPINION IS overtrading and the single biggest reason for overtrading is a small account.
You can cure most people of overtrading by simply giving them a large account. Of course they have to get the large account themselves and its almost impossible for most people to save 50 grand while demoing.
Trading becomes infinitly easier when you no longer need to take more than 2 or 3 great set ups a month which nets you a large sum. trading is very difficult when you follow your rules and it nets you a hundred bucks a month or less.
You must make a decision.
1. I will demo for as long as it takes to save the sum for a large account.
2. I will somehow force myself to only take the best set ups even though it means almost nothing money wise.
The key to success by many in this thread over the years and also mine years ago was/is.
1. a large account.
2. day trading OFF OF A DAILY CHART (if necessary based on a possible retrace of an initial move) and if not working the move for a swing or position trade if we bust some early s/r.
3. learn to use side to side support and resistance ( j16 pivot zones if you wish) to manage your trades and allow them to be the basis for whether its a day/swing or position trade.
4. simple good common sense money management/risk profile.
Now im gonna make the kind of statement you very rarely ever see me make.
Take what i just posted and go watch the videos. (free ones if your not a member) and you now have a better chance of success than your ever going to find anywhere else and i dont give a rats ass what it costs.
Jim
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The sad thing is that some will read this, agree with it and chose to ignore it. Only after many losses and/or accounts will they say "Now what was that thing that James16 guy was talking about? Oh yeah, maybe I'll take this a little more seriously".
Ok maybe it was just me.
Thanks again Jim for all that you do.
Jim
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Dec 8, 2008 6:00pm
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. WELL PUT.
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A friend of mine started trading FX a few weeks ago. I told him about J16 thread and pointed to some key posts. Nevertheless, like all newbies, he was keen on action and jumped straight into... M1. After bad results (surprise, surprise), he moved to M5, then M15, now to H1. H4 is next. Some people get it sooner, some later, some never.
Sadly, by the time most new traders could have realised their mistake and understand what Jim was really trying to tell them with great pantience (well, not just trying, but spoon-feeding like a caring mother  ...
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Dec 8, 2008 6:04pm
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YES and i will add to it by saying that i have known two people over the years that committed suicide as a result of trading failure.
both had kids and both lost family fortunes daytrading during the tech bust.
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That's actually quite normal for successful traders. I've heard of stories of guys living in their cars... just to be successful at trading.
Jim isn't BS'ing you when he says that... I know I've spent a lot of money in education as well... I almost loss my marriage over it.
You either get it or you don't. Sooner or later you go through so much pain that you either ruin your life, or you become successful.
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actually they were in a trading room in dallas in the late 90's and they did have internet trading although not like it is today. i told this story years ago. its here somewhere.
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That's without the modern day computers and internet, the way it is now. Drawing OHLC on graph paper. Talk about perseverance.
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Dec 8, 2008 8:02pm
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nice. i have suggested just this on several occassions.
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Thanks a million Jim and Mr T, this is just golden knowledge you share....its truly priceless to hear about your experiences. Its terribly sad too hear how trading can ruin people's lives but I think the reality of what can happen needs to be discussed and reinforced often.
This brings me to the thought that perhaps when newbies (and I consider myself one still even though I'm trading a live account) are demo'ing they should have 2 accounts. Perhaps a 100k account and another with 1k and then can learn themselves using proper mm and only taking...
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Dec 8, 2008 8:12pm
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yep its happened many times in many different places.
in those days people could and did make millions in one day trading tech stocks. it was actually very easy. tech stocks went up in those days. not sideways or down but up. up, up and up.
when it ended people could not believe it. when you have everything riding on a trade ( your money, your wifes parents money, your grandparents money) and it goes south what do you do? in those days you just kept trading because it always went up in short order.
when it burst it took a lot of people down and in one of those cases im talking about it was a loss of over 5 million dollars in less than two days if memory serves me correctly. those stocks were a license to print money for a long time but if you were loaded up at the end it was dooms day.
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During 97 Asian Crisis..score of ppl in SG n HK commit sucide,,, I was still studente then... It was sound so scary...
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im going to quote my own post with a message that just came in from the guest area of the site to show all of you why im always harping on treating this as a business. i dont know if this person even watches this thread but in case he does im not going to mention the name so dont worry. if you do watch this please dont be offended by me posting the message. no one will know who you are and perhaps this will help someone here or someone might post and help you.
i receive these every week and i honestly never seem to have the right words. many of you may think that people really dont get themselves into trouble at this business or if so there are not that many. i assure you that everytime you log on and see 2000 traders at FF a good percentage of them are searching desperatly for a way out of dire trouble.
"I have been trading on live account since march 2005,many times i made good profit but final result is minus and i have wasted more than $150,000 in this period.I have read many tips, books and article,subscribed one online site which gave trading signals only for a month ,that was very bad month. Pls suggest Thanks. Now am on road, no house ,no money, Family in trouble, huge debts."
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yep its happened many times in many different places.
in those days people could and did make millions in one day trading tech stocks. it was actually very easy. tech stocks went up in those days. not sideways or down but up. up, up and up.
when it ended people could not believe it. when you have everything riding on a trade ( your money, your wifes parents money, your grandparents money) and it goes south what do you do? in those days you just kept trading because it always went up in short order.
when it burst it took a lot of people down...
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Dec 9, 2008 12:18pm
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very nice rain.
trading like this allows us to focus and learn the craft as a new trader. if we are picky with our entries and set ups stop outs are usually at break even instead of a loss if we get an early kick back from a first area of S/R. bottom line is it removes the guessing and builds confidence.
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IMO (the more experienced may correct me if I?m wrong) this is meant as: we trade a daily bar setup to the next S/R level (usually reached within a day, often within several hours), and if it breaks that S/R level, we have a logic place to put our stop and can stay in that trade as it moves in our favor (may that be a swing, or a longterm trend = position trade).
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many traders here do very well using multiple time frames. some of you will find it virtually impossible to do which is fine as it does me also. i rarely look at more than one time frame when trading with pa and s/r. it causes me to second guess muself which is what it did to you jim. dont do it if you find it handcuffs you.
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Unfortunately the pin distracted me from my lower TF MA system and I didn't take the short that was indicated at 1.4823 - it then quickly dropped 60+ pips..... 
Not sure what I've learned from this!
Maybe that the trend is my friend 
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welcome Fx,
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"Yeah you can...open up the order thingie and in the Volume change the Lot size to 1 and close it"
btw Hello everybody
hmm my first post here, was recommended by Ghous, intending to learn the mystery of James16 :P wish me luck.
Ghous thanks for the recommendation as i found it interesting and valuable.
Good Pipping all.
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pay attention to mike. his views are generally mine also. mike is not the only one. there are many old timers here that all new people to this thread should pay attention to.
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Hey Naija
Be real careful here, I think this is stretching things a bit. Firstly the pin on the hourly didnt have a close within the prior bar so technically it is not a pinbar. Secondly it has been 4+ bars and the low was never broken. This is often a sign of a lackluster pin. Most people cancel their order if it doesn't break on the next bar or maybe 2 bars. I would just be careful here as maybe this will give some pips to you, but I think there are better trades to wait on the sidelines for.
Just my views
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good common sense advice. the only thing i would add is this.
if you simply MUST trade intraday time frames for gods sake do it on demo until you have proven you can do it with success.
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Hi Interceptor,
I understand where you are coming from. It can make you feel like you're missing out on something when others are trading shorter time frames. It can make you take trades that you're not ready to take. I think a lot of people feel the need to trade and because there aren't as many setups on the higher time frames, smaller tf trades are searched for (I do this too !). Lack of setups can also make one take less than A+ setups which I'm guilty of too so I am talking from experience !
Good luck,
Joe
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Dec 18, 2008 4:30pm
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go to the guest area of the site and read "so you want to be a trader?" and "minimum requirenments". most wont follow its advice but im not trying to reach the most that wont....just the few that will.
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Sorry to butt in on this, but I am a little confused about something.
Most of the stuff I've read about James16's methodology stresses the longer timeframes-daily charts seem to get the biggest tick. Indeed, a friend of mine is a new-ish member of the J16 group, and he says that this is the case.
Yet, after reading this thread regularly recently, it seems that the vast majority of posters seem to prefer/use 4 hour charts.
Why?
Are daily charts a 'newbie' only experience?
Do long-standing J16 group members 'graduate' onto shorter timeframes?
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Trying to get caught up after being away for a few days and this is the one that made me smile the biggest. (not the only smile as i smile a lot when i read the old timers posts. i am very thankful for all of them and they know who they are).
Another year in the books for this thread and i think it met its purpose once again.
WE helped people find a little light in this dark business.
I would like to honour the old timers that make this thread what it is but im afraid i would miss someone so i will just say thanks from the bottom of my heart for what you do. as i said before you know who you are and so do i.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND A MERRY XMAS TO ALL,
JIM
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Merry Christmas everybody !
This year I've found this thread, man i tell you, it's gold!
We have BEST system, we work in BEST businness in this world.
Your dreams can come true next year, I will work hard to done it.
You guys here are great and friendly. thanks all.
I'll try to do my best and post m5 charts.
See ya guys!
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omg you made me laugh. every xmas eve i sit down around the tree with my family, a warm fire and my dean martin xmas classics. its a tradition in my house. Dean Martin is perhaps my favorite all time performer/singer.
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PLEASE: Return ALL our members after the holidays. Thank You.
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Merry Christmas to all!!!
I wanna thank god to discover this thread and, like Jim says: "helped a lot of people find a little light in this dark business.", including me.
And, of course, I wanna thank, again, all people here that make this thread better day by day!!
This year was a great year for my trading carreer because of you!
Now, I will stay at the side line and wait to trade anly next year
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there is gold in this post and the one that rac posted that prompted it.
what is that gold?
simply this....
there is only one way to get to a point where things are working for you and its not by chasing down every nuance and different thought in this thread. its by simply taking the very simple methods taught here and spending several months demoing, refining and perfecting what works best for YOU.
YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF.
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Amen!!
I personally approach it from an arrogant point of view and stubbornly hold to my own thoughts on set ups. LOL
It's always worth taking note of what others are saying though, because you often do find something you missed on a chart and there's also no end to the learning.
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IM BACK
WELL IM BACK after a great little trip to the mountains of northern new mexico and southern colorado. got some catching up to do i see. next year should find this thread taking its next step. me and fijitrader are working on that this month. i sure wish fij would get back involved at forex factory but i guess when your retired in paradise you can do what you want.
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i tip my hat to you arcus. no small task for sure. your focus suggestions would be mine also with a few extras like always treating this like a business.
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I think you can find some basic stuff from the attachment in this thread. It worth reading the whole thread. To summarize: when you read, focus on PPZ, Pinbar, Outside bar, location of the PA from post by senior members: James16,Bundy,SeekingLight,mbqb11,J arroo,raczekfx,Ghous. Post by them are most precious. It worth the read.
I JUST FINISHED READING THIS WHOLE THREAD!!! 
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welcome johnny,
if im reading your chart correctly the bar in question is not a true pin bar. its open and close are not within the prior bar. a lot of people make this mistake and it can be a deadly one.
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First time poster here in this thread. Thanks to all the contributors and most of all to Jim. I've rededicated myself to studying and applying PA since starting this thread. In any event, anyone else see the Pinnochio bar on the EURCHF weekly chart. I am sure its not too late to take advantage of it. Maybe go down to the next couple lower TFs and pick your spot? Comments and criticisms welcome. May be forming a double top on the 4hr. Maybe wait for it to break through the 4r double top to confirm a break through the 38 fib instead of bouncing back...
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great question and one that never gets asked mostly because people dont read the entire thread.
the answer is simple.
a large percentage of my trading to this day IS daytrading but not forex.
why did i talk about it then and not now?
forex factory back then was about 50 people total and i never in a million years saw this happening to this thread. what started out to be "just another thread headed for oblivion" quickly became very serious stuff for a growing number of people. once i saw that i knew the right thing to do was to be upfront and honest. what is upfront and honest?
beginner daytraders never make it in this business. MOST position/swing traders dont make it long term.
I knew i stood a pretty good chance of helping a fair percentage of people find some position/swing trading success but daytrading is different.
You can give most traders a daytrading method that finds a decent profit 80 plus percent of the time and 80 plus percent of them will still fail and find a way to lose all there money.
i also knew when i quit talking about it that a certain percentage of people that followed my stuff would find success with the longer time frames and use the same material to find some success daytrading
my choice has been to let that happen naturally and its probably the single best decision i have ever made pertaining to this thread.
succesful daytraders are not born they are made. made by blood, sweat and tears and countless hours of brutal hard work and self discovery.
succesful daytrading is a personal journey after a succesful method is discovered. its 95 percent between the ears and psychological in virtually every respect.
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Im unable to say how much i have gained from the private forum and this thread but i noticed something and need to ask.
What happened to your daytrading. At the beginning of this thread you were posting lot of m5/m15 setups which were high probability. I remember you wrote somewhere that scalping is something you do from day to day to increase your overall profit. I'm guessing that you build your account to such point that there is no need to trade frequently and somehow i know that trader like you with such excellent skills can squize...
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Very nice Dave.
Dave is a Rock Star in the PF. (at least to me.  )
His info should be well noted.
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this post means a lot to me. ive tried hard to do right by people since this ship sailed and i get mostly kudos but im human and i need to hear this from time to time. look for a PM Jim
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Alas it is with a sense of dismay that I had to cancel my subscription to the James16 pf....cutbacks at work make a layoff for me look inevitable.....so am trying to conserve in advance......hope I dont have to close small live accounts as well.....but I must say that I really enjoyed what I was seeing explained there......Not so much as new information to me....but a further confirmation to me that the way I am approaching forex trading is the way it should be done.......when I see James and the others taking trades at the same time and for the...
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wish i knew a way to have this greet every new person to this thread.
if i could just convince all of you to do this you would have a real chance at your dream/s.
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Little did I know that fulfilling the "minimum requirements" set out by Jim for this business would take my trading to the level where i always wanted it to be. I tell you, golden stuff this
Minimum Requirments
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thanks thexder,
i was considering this among other things.
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Everyone has the authority to edit the first post of their own threads so you could either copy the text into the first post or write a note to refer people to a certain thread post number/page and have them go there.
Some threads that get large have the first post of the thread updated regularly with links to specific posts to keep track.
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good to see you also b,
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thanks,
its not much by most standards but i know not everyone can do it and to be honest it bugs the crap out of me. thats where this thread comes in.
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Hi James16;
good to have u here today;
A great thread and great work. It is a pitty that not all of us, posters and lurkers, can afford to be on your private group/forum. Your generousity is appreciated by all, keep it up. Thanks a million.
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lol. the only thing i would change is "you may be" to "you are".
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If your not able to fullfill the requirements, you may be in the wrong business.
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a fellow recovering indicatorholic.
welcome sir,
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@jarroo
Even though I'm not of James16s students I printed it out
the time I came across the beauty of price action.
I too thought I could make more money on M5, M15 timeframes
and that I only had to trade 1-2 hours a day. Boy I was wrong.
Fact is:
1. With the small timeframe my demo was a bloody rollercoaster and
it was very stressful.
2. With daily timeframe 90% of the work is moving stops and locking in profit.
It almost gets boring being profitable.
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request
if any of you have an opinion on what might be a good idea to put in post #1 of this thread please email me at -
j16tg@sbcglobal.net or PM me.
thanks,
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you aussies kill me. you guys got it made man. i spend way to much time googling stuff you guys talk about and then find myself wanting to go there.
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Yorke Peninsula was great....mainly shore based fishing....bagged some whiting and gars....cleaned up on squid from Wool Bay and Port Giles jetties....went snorkelling with a pod of 6 dolphins in Pondalowie Bay...campground is still closed there...not sure what they are doing to it??
Then went up to Melrose in the Southern Flinders ranges for a few days
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yep and new zealand would be next or perhaps even first.
ive been looking at some new zealand real estate online. summer holiday place you know.
my wife says ive lost my mind.
hey you never know what i might do.
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yep. if i ever went overseas australia would be first on the list.
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nope i would have to have me an amber fluid mate.
see!!! i speak australian.
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here is one i was looking at.
http://www.realestate.co.nz/968989
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I'm a kiwi....grew up in Nth Canterbury...my parents have a farm up there. House prices have shot up in NZ in recent years but if I was going to buy anywhere I'd look around Nelson, Motueka, Takaka or Golden Bay in the South Island.....I love Kaikoura too.
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in texas if you said lets crack a tinny you might get punched. if you said lets have a few cold ones we would know exactly what to do.
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We like to call it, crackin' a tinny
or having a few cold ones
There's nothing like a cold VB after a stinking hot day, and from the sounds of things its about to get damn hot over south eastern Australia in the next few days. Beautiful 
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rowdy? now i know it would be perfect.
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A bit far away from the water isn't it?
Very nice mate....I used to hitch up to Mt Manganui to go surfing when I was a kid...it's awesome up there....pretty rowdy at Christmas and New year though
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That looks nice...I'll visit you during the holidays then LoL
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There seems to be an Irish pub on every corner in Sydney....and lot's of Paddies waddling up Bondi Road looking like lobsters after a day at the beach....great fun to have a beer with those boys ....they are funny buggers 
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ive been a reptile fanatic my entire life. my oldest son (11) and i have a snake business that does very well.
my son with Bob Clark. Bob is a regular on the Lettermen show and one of the most famous and respected snake experts in the world. Bob is a good friend and took a liking to my son several years ago. he actually invited us to his place to spend a whole day with him about two years ago. Bob owns the longest snake in captivity. it is 30 plus feet and is on loan to the Columbus zoo.
This is one of our hatchlings from last year. a super pastel ball python.
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sure you can. i manage my personal sep IRA and several other stock accounts with virtually nothing but simple price action. i think clockwork71 sent me this one a while back. i missed it but he didnt.
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Hi all,
I have used price action exclusively for quite a while now and I am currently averaging 90% wins but I am very picky about my trades.
I would like to trade more but rather than drop down in time frames I was thinking about expanding to the stock markets and staying on the daily charts. My question is for anyone who is currently trading price action (mainly pin bars) on stocks.
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i have to many to list. im funny about my trading accounts. i literally keep backup accounts with different brokers in case of problems. i also dont mix trading styles between accounts either. my futures position trading account is for only that. my stock position trading account is for just that and never for anything else. this is how i stay focused on what im trying to accomplish in a particular account. i have accounts with several stock brokers, several forex brokers and several futures brokers. some of them overlap of course. one that does it all and is a solid company is interactive brokers. not a recomendation im just pointing it out.
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hello jim, what is your broker to follow stocks + forex markets ? Or do you have two different brokers ?
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I have used price action exclusively for quite a while now and I am currently averaging 90% wins but I am very picky about my trades.
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The key here is the phrase "i am very picky about my trades".
it might be the single most important factor for success in this business.
if your not picky about your trades you aint got a prayer in this business.
hope that doesnt sound condescending but its a rock solid fact.
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You Guys Are Just Great
Man I Dig You Guys. You All Make Me So Damn Proud To Have My Name On This Thread.
Thanks To All Of You And Your Never Ending Desire To Help Others.
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not much. the yellow line (pivot zone) just below the bar that broke short would have been the area to look for a kick back. didnt make it by a few pips but just goes to show once again.
1. never trade into a pivot zone. (support/resistance)
2. the lower the time frame the more skill needed.
3. "failed" is a subjective term. many followers of this thread wouldnt have touched that entry just above the very prominent pivot zone. why? because they have spent a lot of time practicing. some would have tried to take a quick profit knowing it was there and would have lost. (these burners are rare but they happen)
some would have waited for a break below the pivot zone.
4. nothing is 100 percent but i wonder at times how many in this thread are trading intraday when they do not understand the basics of what we do.
not criticism in any way i just see so many times people losing money with this method when its so simple to not lose money trading this method.
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Sorry to hear that. It happens from time to time. I'm no pro when it comes to J16, but let me ask you this. How much room to the downside do you see? Is this pin in traffic?
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this happens a lot and it can be a great method after some practice.
nice.
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Here's a good example of what I was trying to explain.
Usd/Jpy. We have a BEOB on the 4hour and Price breaks for some good profit. Then it retraces to the Low of the BEOB's previous bar (candle) and then continues down.
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nzd/jpy
This is NOT trading advice. I have mentiuoned many times that account size matters and that we are all different personalities and traders.
my stop on nzd/jpy is already at breakeven and i have already taken a nice profit off of the table.
is there anything wrong with a trader that sees this going to the 38 or 50 fib. surely not and it may very well do so. if it does i have extra profit BUT THE CHANCE OF ME LOSING MONEY ON THIS TRADE IS 0.
trading like this with a decent account size and an ultra picky entry strategy is how you make it in this business in my opinion.
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i must be getting old. it took me about 2 minutes of intense concentration to get what you were saying here. lol
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welcome cap,
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hi all...
i just follow u all since last year n this my first post...
just to show my name here as welcome b4 i involve with "stupid" question
p/s JIM, RAC,GHOUS, MBQB N JARROO... i always read ur post twice even more.... nice work
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allright rac this worship stuff is just way to much so i gotta come clean.
truth is rac's entries come from me via email.
sorry rac but my ego just couldnt take it anymore.
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true story.
last time i was in voodoo town was late 70's for a stones concert.
i was halfway thru a bottle of crown royal and a SHOE BOX FULL OF COKE came down the isle. i dont remember much after that but i woke up the next morning along with my sister, her boyfriend and a friend of his in jail in a podunk town called krotz springs if memory serves me correctly.
honest to god true story.
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So you the Voodoo man?
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lolololol.
i remember and i would love to do that with you some day.
good to see you around and thanks for the kind words,
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ahah..Hi Jim... If you remember I promised you an italian dinner. I'll never forget it. You really change the life of many persons. When I buy something, a gift for my girfriend, a toy for my niece or anything else it's also thank to you and your group. I understand how you feel for doing what you are doing.
About raczek. It's not easy to pick countertrend levels, in fact the price often break out them. I often see strong trend break everything, but he picks the right levels where there are good reactions. I don't know how he does
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i commend you sir as that is no small task.
thats great simon. i just printed it i liked it so much.
im not anything special ive just been doing it a bit longer than you guys,
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Right then - I have now completed the thread, re read all my notes and the guest material on the PF.(taken about 3mths)
I have done my time and paid my dues, so now it is off to that wonderful place in the sky PA HEAVEN...
Please Jim can I come in
ps To all people that have recently joined this thread - I have picked up gems of info through the whole 1200pages not just in the first 100, so i would advise reading the whole thing.
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lol. thanks almfx but im not worthy of such a high opinion.
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Jim! It seems you move the market, how can you find exact entry just on TOP/BOTTOM. You are really a Wizard or does the market asks your permission to move forward 
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well i aint goin back to krotz springs. to this day that place makes me think of a burt reynolds/john voight movie and im glad to this day to have gotten out alive.
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LOL... wow.. Man... that place gives EVERYONE stories.
Dude, the last time I was the there, even our 'straight as an arrow' english upper class travelling companion ended up with a prison name.
... We all had one of those Hurricanes in some club there somewhere out of the blue. Hell... we didn't even notice we were one short on the way back to where we were staying. Knocked us to our senses when our host freaked out next morning. He said he's either in hospital, prison or dead. If that doesn't sober you up...
Now krotz springs......
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what was the reasoning/thought process for your trade?
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Jim i have a question, how do i know if i am on the right side of a trade, i took a short on aud/usd but closed it early because i thought well it could be the next level? or should i have waited for the 4 hr to close then enter short?
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i used to drink hurricanes and bowl. 
me and my buddies got kicked out of more than one bowling alley drinking those things.
im ashamed of my party days at times but man i left nothing on the table. im lucky to be alive.
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LOL... wow.. Man... that place gives EVERYONE stories.
Dude, the last time I was the there, even our 'straight as an arrow' english upper class travelling companion ended up with a prison name.
... We all had one of those Hurricanes in some club there somewhere out of the blue. Hell... we didn't even notice we were one short on the way back to where we were staying. Knocked us to our senses when our host freaked out next morning. He said he's either in hospital, prison or dead. If that doesn't sober you up...
Now krotz springs......
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Jan 16, 2009 4:01am
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what jumped out at me on your chart was that nice bearish outside bar a few bars back with your red line running thru it. very nice bar at a pullback. went for some nice pips also.
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to me it looked like the mid point on the daily
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well i assume you want me to be honest so here is what i would tell you if you were sitting next to me. i assume your trading with real money.
we never know for sure we are right but if we choose our locations correctly and wait for confirming bar analysis there are several, if not more, near certain trades among the major pairs every month.
we start out on weekly and daily charts until we are profecient before moving to intraday.
we never put real money on the line until we have proven over several consecutive months in a row on demo that we know how to do what we are trying to do.
in short we treat this as a true business because if we dont were gonna lose all our money.
i could go on but thats the jest of it.
you will likely learn the hard way like myself and most others.
im just saying to you or anyone else that cares to listen that there is a better way and its really nothing more complicated that good ole common sense.
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my problem is i freak never knowing if i am right? i mean i saw this thing going short from 7230 ish and got stoped out only to watch it fall, how do you guys confirm your right?
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damn i knew that was going for a few pips but didnt take it. see jaroo knows what the hell he is doing, just look at where his stop is now. you never know this could bust long big time.
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1st target hit, good for 56 pips. Moved to break even. Not the best looking PB but Location and PPZ made up the indifference.
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i wasn t exactly sure what the response would be but i knew it would be good. i wasnt dissapointed and its good to see rac doesnt mind telling the truth.
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Fine, cover has been blown...
The story is: I was stocking James for two years... cleaning his house, cooking meals, taking dogs out and all I could see, was a closed door to his office with a big sign "trading in progress, no entry for rac"
The break through came about a year ago, when he allowed me to synch his PCs with mine. Ever since, whenever he trades, the very same trades are automatically opened on my platform. All I do is watch and post on FF
Sorry to disappoint guys..
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im proud of you chris not only for showing you know what your doing but also for the way you stated this. i worry for the newbs when people talk these lower time frames but you stated things very well.
good job,
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15 min pb trade off area of confluence - PPZ, 50% fib. I risk less on these than on the larger timeframes and the profit target is always 1:1. Word of warning: Don't attempt these until you've practiced a LOT on the higher timeframes - dailys, weeklys etc, otherwise you'll see pin bars everwhere and quickly drain your account! I only ever search on the lower timeframes when I know there's a significant area of confluence.
Still in UJ and NJ long from Daily pins.
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Jan 16, 2009 10:04am
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WELL IF YOUR SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR VOW YOU WILL DO 2 THINGS.
1. read this entire thread
2. demo what you learn until your profitable for at least 3 months in a row on no less than a daily time frame.
if you will do this and stay tuned into this thread i will bet you by mid year you will be making money and indicators will not be part of it.
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yes jim it is a live account i have vowed this year to give up indicators they are bad for your health. Love this thread trying to get a feal for how you guys trade.
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ALL OF YOU CAN GET HERE. 12K is not a big deal. my account size allows me to do this but my account size is due to growing an account thru patience and never ever taking crappy trades.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO TAKE EVERY TRADE YOU SEE. ONLY TAKE THE BEST regardless of your account size. its the only way your gonna get to a point where several good trades a month blow away your "job" income. its worth it i promise.
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3 trades..12K??
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i use tradestation for virtually everything. i use met4 for here and the group only.
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Jan 16, 2009 10:16am
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geez chris i appreciate those kind words. its easy to see you could be a great help here.
thanks,
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for your kind words, they mean a great deal to me coming from you. I don't post much at the moment on this thread as I have 2 businesses to run which need most of my attention. I have the time to place trades, but not to comment on everything going on. Things look set to develop later thi year which should allow me to move on from my committments and trade full time. I look forward to this next step as I'll be able to give something back to the newbs as so many have been kind enough to guide me over the last 6 months (even if they...
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Jan 16, 2009 10:21am
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TS is like getting into a fine tuned sports car especially for those of you with some real computer skills.
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Great, would've made me skeptical if people changed from TS to mt4 lol.
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apples and oranges to an extreme ghous. like comparing a ford to a ferrari.
to many reasons to list. dont get me wrong met is great but TS can take you to places met cant.
its not for everyone but for full time traders in multiple markets its the choice of most of them.
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What is so special abt TS Jim that in your opinion places it ahead of mt4??
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i havnt but ive paid easy language experts to do it for me. i have one working on something for me right now as a matter of fact.
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I would bet on that. Seems like heaven to have all markets under one platform along with millions of (customizable) options. I guess you've programmed it to give you a notification when a preferred setup occurs ?
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As it is, I started my three months Jan 1. I'm up 5% so far. Hope to make it to 10%. I've been demoing for about 9 months so far. Not one of them was profitable. But I started using the James16 method this time... so far so good.
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i live to see these posts. here is yet another person that is serious about his new business and desperatly wants it to succeed.
WHO CARES ABOUT THE NON SERIOUS PEOPLE? I DONT.
THATS WHO WE MAKE OUR MONEY FROM AND THEY DONT DESERVE SUCCESS ANYWAY .
that may sound harsh but thats life baby.
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i can always feel that in people because i have known desperation in this business beyond comprehension. you guys are my heroes because you keep me and my family free and safe. if we dont have freedom and safety then we have nothing.
thank you sir,
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Hey Jim... how did you know I was desperate? A mind-reader this one. That's why he's so good right? No.
I've got three years left as of yesterday in the Air Force. I'd like to be done with it then and spend some time with my family. I'd like to do it as a trader.  Time will tell.
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lol see im human also. my first thought was ooohhh i want to play with it!!!!
indicatoirs are not evil you just have to learn how to use them as confirmation of bar analysis and location.
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Interesting... I really want it... it looks so pretty and shiny. Don't give it to me. I beg you.
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WELCOME HOME SAM!!! LOL.
YOU WILL FIND HELP HERE SAM AND THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS.
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Goodday Sir, this the first time i am ever going to post anything on forex factory ( i guess you could say i was afraid of embarassing myself by saying something dumb infront of everybody) but i dont care about anymore because you have made me realize this is MY business and its success or failure depends totally on me, so as from this year, i will ask the most "STUPID" questions, so far as i can get answers. i have been trading forex actively now for about a year with a little bit of sucess. i still cant place my hand on any particular method...
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WHERE IS MIKEY?
I havnt spent this much time in this thread in years and MB aint no where to be seen.
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Omg I Liked To Passed Out Laughing
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i know its always a risk to judge that but ive seen pictures of mikey. he just looks like a ladies man.
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i spent my 20's in varying states of inebriation and i had a blast. got married at 30 when the right one showed up.
mike is doing it the right way in my opinion.
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jeez I'm only 25 not getting married in my prime :P
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with your looks clock you should just be glad someone took you off the street.
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As someone who has been married for 1 year, let me say this Mike: DON'T DO IT.
You learn things like..."I don't take the trash out honey, sorry." Or, that's having a girlfriend is suddenly unacceptable.
What the hell is that all about? ;-)
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time to put it on paper willf. comeon buddy you know you can do it.
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nope it was not mentioned, at least not by me.
your an old timer bemac so you merit whatever you want.
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Haven't finished reading the new posts yet but did want to throw my tuppence on this one.
TS is Open Source Code. This means that you can construct your own custom designed Functions to apply in any other code you write. That, plus, they are the fastest, in my experience, to correct those unwanted Bad Data Spikes. In fact, you can report said "Bad Data" to expidite the correction to the chart.
I have another half page @ 40 posts/page to read before I find out if another mentioned this already.
ps. Jim, do I merit a J16 Logo for my sig yet?...
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you dont need to trade thru them. its actually rj obrien anyway. open an account and just use the account to be debited for the platform cost and trade elsewhere. you can find cheaper and better. you still get the discounted platform rate doing it this way. 99 instead of 199. i put 1500 in there every year and just let it auto pay the platform fee.
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While there is talk of TS, I'm looking to possibly start trading stocks and futures thru them, they offer deep discount for the charting if you have a account with them, does anyone here actually trade with them, if so whats your pros and cons.
Any input appreciated.
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HERE YA GO STEVE. since i was about to post this chart and reply to your post i will just dedicate this to you. welcome.
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A big hello to you all,
I've been hiding in the shadows for quite a while now whilst I read through the entire thread, which I finished over the weekend.  And have gone straight back to page 1 to start over again!!
I'd like to say a very big THANK YOU to James and all the other regular contributors who have made this a truely outstanding thread. Not just for the information provided but also the spirit in which it is given. The helpfulness and generousity of you all is amazing. 19000+ posts and I don't recall one negative one. Says it all,...
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yes that could have been an option. just depends on the trader involved.
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hi
with weekly setups you don't lock in profit after the frist point like this case and set stop to breakeven? Or there was indication showing that BE after the frist point was not a good option?
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the markets are about reality. whether you like him or not he is a very liberal and inexperienced man. the markets know this reality and until or if he proves he is not going to move this country toward socialism it will be very nervous.
my opinion is you havnt seen anything yet. my personal hope is he is as smart as he is liberal and he knows he cant do as president what he did as a senator of a very liberal state. time will tell.
make no mistake that many in his party want to go as hard left as possible. if that actually happens there could be total chaos the likes of which you have never seen.
i didnt vote for the man but unlike many on the left that never gave the former president a chance im willing to give mr. obama one.
im not holding my breath but i suppose anything is possible,
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Just a question. Did any of you experienced guys expect the US equity markets to tank with Obama's inagauration, and the USD and especially the JPY to get stronger?
I figured it would all be already figured into the market price. Maybe some last mintue equity investors selling before Obama makes policy? Big dog traders moving the market down either to spite Obama, or just to make some money?
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thats great flyer,
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Anybody else jump on the 4H PB on GBPJPY. Just closed it for 100 pips. Shows on the ATC feed.
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for years those of us that have been stockpiling food and ways to protect our families in case of a worst case scenario have been called every name in the book. i hope that day never comes and that all of my stockpiles are wasted money...truly i do...but im prepared and thats all that matters to me.
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Jim, I agree with your words 100%. I just didn't expect the markets to tank again today, at least not so strong.
I am prepared for country collapse or not. My family has farm land and hunts and has plenty of ammo. If worst comes to worst, I am prepared. But I am hopeful for the best.
Thank you for your hard work and sharing with us new traders. I greatly appreciate it.
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nice. i was just about to post a chart of this.
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nice. i was just about to post a chart of this.
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you sure can and if that round number has a supporting cast of confluence its often money in the bank. a solid case could be made that if you only took trades off of these round numbers it can be the difference between success and failure. its that good of a filter in my opinion. when im daytrading i will not take any entry that is not off of either a 50 or a 00.
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thats great john,
good start. a realistic goal can be 2 months without a loss or more. just gotta be picky with your entries and smart with your breakeven strategy.
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nice profit..
2 consecutive win trades.. dig sources from here. Thanks James.
Bdw, my PO activated for USD/CHF. Will post chart later.
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welcome tic.
tic has some experience in the futures markets and is just beginning to get his feet wet in the forex markets. post away and ask anything tic your in a friendly place to learn.
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Hi Jim, Thanks for the PM reply.
My first post in the Forum and the usual mega thanks for all those involved are passed accordingly :-)
I thought I would folow up my PM with some action - so here is one of my current positions - DLHC half already out at the first rejection of the upper blue bar (pls ignore the MAs), holding the rest until for either break long and review at 0.68(ish) or 0.6533 stop in profit.
Great work all - really impressed
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very nice. perfect entry and a sound knowledge of what price is likely to do
HAS ANYONE NOTICED THE MINOR PRICE FLIP AT 1400?
its just two bars but certainly a place to watch. i believe it is being tested right now.
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perhaps new jd but you will never find anything easier. take your time here before considering joining. spending a month or two here first really helps in my opinion.
welcome,
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Yeah, I'm watching that now too, as we sit near 1.14. Would like to see it fall back a bit. New to this PA stuff though, so taking it all in.
Up to post 4095 so far...Demo trading for a while yet, reading through this thread, look into PF, and am confident I can make this a career.
Thanks to James16, and also Bones, who directed me to this thread. Also, all the other regular posters.
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great dutch,
not surprised you noticed it.
everyone go look at it on 4 hour and you will see how two bars are really more important than you think. it jumps out at you on 4 hour.
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WELCOME JL,
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Hey everyone! Am new to forex, and hoping I can learn as much as possible asap! Will be following this thread as it seems to have helped a lot of people. Hope to learn as much as I can here, and hopefully will be able to contribute soon as well  Gl all.
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sometime im gonna take a break from pip hunting and return to the homeland and do a little eel hunting with jig. in fact my guess is some beers and eel hunting would be a lot of fun.
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Price rarely lies . .
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geez thats pretty good stuff. i may put this in post number 1.
ive tried a million times to say all of this in a million different emails and posts but it never comes out right and certainly not in short form.
its gotta be the irish blood in jig.
i have irish blood but its been out of the country for about 4 hundred years.
ive been planning a trip back this summer or next.
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Every question that you could probably think of has been answered several times by now. The PF is good because it has all the material in one place, it's concentrated, without a lot of the "external noise" that you might get on a public forum. You definately just need to listen to certain voices especially in this thread (If you read the thread from the start you will just start skipping some peoples...
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IM READY TO GO MAN. LETS DO THE BEER FIRST THOUGH COULD WE.
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Over here :
Doing a bit of :
And some of this :
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Its Been A Week Or Two
OK ITS BEEN A WEEK OR TWO SO HERE IT COMES AGAIN. this is not directed at anyone in particular because i never know who is demoing and who isnt. its a general statement that i make from time to time to get in the face of those new to this thread.
if you are trading this material (or any for that matter) without proving your competence on demo first your just being plain dumb.
if your trading this material on intraday time frames without proving your competence on demo first your just plain stupid.
having stupiditis is not rare in this business its a plague.
i had it for years and i can tell you one thing for sure.
going broke by being stupid was my fault when i did it and it will be your fault when you do it.

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i had 8 years in a row losing money and well into 6 figures lost during those years.
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Evening Jim, Just back in from Uni,
You have surely answered this before but the answer escapes me, how many accounts did you blow before you were profitable ? (Im possibly wrongly presuming that you did . . but the number three keeps springing to my mind for reasons that escape me)
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ive thought about it a lot since entering middle age. i was taught as a child that there are two types of people. those that go down to the field to play the game and those that sit in the stands and watch. most sit in the stands which is fine but my father taught me that true happiness in life comes from not letting fear rule your life.
most people have dreams but are afraid TO REALLY TRY FOR THEM.
failing to me is just like edison said. i havnt failed ive just found 10,000 ways that dont work.
i dont know any other way to be. if im interested in something and the answers are hard to find then so be it. i will keep looking until my time here is up.
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How . . .
How did you keep persisting ? Thats dogged determination there . . . The financial side of it is harsh enough . . . But I am just considering the emotional side of it as well . .
Persistance truly does pay off I guess . . Wasn't it Churchill who said something like "All we have to do to conquer, is endure" . . .
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post a couple of charts of what you did this week simon or if you prefer email them to me.
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Hear Hear!!
I have had another appalling week after 6 good ones which has taken the wind out of my sails a bit but I know this stuff works and i know the mistakes i have made. I will get there soon enough.
"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career, I've lost almost 300 games. Twenty six times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over in my life. And that's why I succeed!" - Michael Jordan
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videos
ok i dont normally announce anything about guest videos but i just posted about 10 from both myself and mbqb11. there are so many i thought i would let you all know.
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thanks
your all very kind.
thank you,
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your learning a great lesson ad but here is the truth.
the different time frames really dont produce a "better" pin bar accuracy.
its the trader skill level AND YOUR ATTENTION TO REALITY that determines success.
if you get good at taking only the best daily pin bars and you get 2 or 3 trades a month its really no different than waiting for the best 4 hour set ups
and taking 2 or 3 trades a week or 1 hour and taking 1 trade a day.
my bet is that NONE OF YOU that are trading 4 hour pin bars are taking only 2 or 3 trades a week. theres no way your gonna sit and watch a computer 24/7 and take that few trades UNLESS YOU HAVE A HUGE ACCOUNT AND THOSE FEW TRADES ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING.
if a great daily set up nets you 100 pips and makes you 10,000 dollars are you going to feel the need to trade all the time? if a 1 hour pin bar nets you 20 pips in 30 minutes and makes you 2000 dollars are you gonna jack around with less than great set ups? hell no your not.
BUT IF THE NUMBERS (ACCOUNT SIZE) ARE DIFFERENT YOUR GONNA BE A DIFFERENT TRADER ESPECIALLY ON INTRADAY .
if you just sat all night waiting for a 1 hour decent pin bar and it moved 20 pips making you 50 dollars what are most people going to do?
1. watch it turn into a loss
2. overtrade and take everything that looks like a pin bar.
why? BECAUSE YOUR TRYING TO CUT CORNERS TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOUR TRADING ACTUALLY MEANS SOME REAL MONEY BUT YOUR CUTTING YOUR OWN THROAT TRYING TO GET THERE.
its like working for a paycheck and never really thinking about your tax rate and how much is coming out. then voting for someone that is going to take out more but since you dont pay attention it goes right over your head because its gone when you get the check.
when does it stop going over your head? WHEN YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY WRITE THE CHECK TO THE IRS EVERY 3 MONTHS AND YOU GET A KNOT IN YOUR STOMACH BECAUSE NOW IT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING AND HAS SUDDENLY BECOME REAL TO YOU.
a couple of times a year i actually impress myself and its usually when someone triggers a painful memory in me
this just did it.
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have been following this thead for a few months now after having a 2 year losing streak and having tried countless systems and mehtods.
was doing so well in the demo until I have let a trade run and its wiped out 10% of my account. so annoyed ! just as well its a demo. I had 3 1 hour pinbars fail today. they just don't seem to work as well as daily's
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good post pip,
the vast majority of people never get the emotion out of trading. i know i have never been able to. the way i deal with it is simple now but it sure wasnt years ago.
1. large account.
2. small risk percentage.
3. literally watching A trades go by waiting for the A+ ones.
it took me 8 long years to figure this out.
this is me speaking of me and no one else but since the success rate is so low there must be something to it.
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Cheers, James.
Lucky here, I realized how important the demo is before I belowing up account, accutally after I made a 8% loss in my second months live trading. 8% is not a big deal, but I really hope I could have started doing demoing much ealier.
I have been demoing PA for the 4ht mth since Oct 08. I have been treating demo exactly same as my live account with some basic MM. Not sure how others feels when they do demoing, but for me I have pressure of doing this  , as I have my wkly target, also an oversal target to "trigger" my living...
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dk you have a damn good chance of making it with this attitude.
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i think at this point i no longer feel the "compulsion" to trade. after jim, mike, & everyone else have taught us the best way to trade & what defines a good trade, i have no problem watching & waiting for the a+ trade to come & happen. if i only see one in a week, then so be it. if none at all or i miss one, then i will wait for the next. i'd rather sit on the side & wait, then jump-in & risk losing money.
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you probably havnt thought of it this way but your in the best possible situation.
your young and you have tons of time to save your money. while saving you get killer good at doing this. in a couple of years you will have everything you need.
your youth, a good account size and the knowledge to do something with it.
i just fely envy. that may sound crazy but its true. i would have given anything to be in your position when i was your age.
would i have done it right back then? probably not.
will you? i dont know. only you know that.
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Excellent post james. This is something that I have been struggling with, mainly because when I do go live with my full account it will only be about 5k (thats what I get working summers- still a student). What has been messing me up is I know i need x% to grow my account so my baby account can grow to a large one. And they way I used to view possible set ups were as a way to increase my account by x% so I can get that larger account quicker. Thus I would hate to let B trades go by and felt I needed to take every opportunity possible, if not create...
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trading in the zone...
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hello josh and welcome to the thread.
be careful with your bar formations. its a common mistake for new folks.
bar 1 is not a pin bar but an outside bar and a strange one at that. to have been a pin bar its high would have needed to be within the prior bar.
bar 2 is simply an inside bar. it has a pin bar look to it but its not even close to being a true pin bar.
your highlighted bar is a pin bar and was a decent one in my opinion simply because oif where it formed. as jarroo said it went exactly where you would have suspected.
you will be much better served to get off of anything shorter than daily while learning.
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Yeah, I really liked this trade. I am not following when you say that the Pinbar was too small relative to other Pinbar lows that didn't work. Looking at the 8 hour chart, I only see a few pinbars in the last 5 days or so... Or are you looking further back than that? It looks like it's a swing low, O/C inside previous bar, nose protrudes 0.72 below prior bar low.
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ground control to major tom. over....over...
lol.
you guys are making me do a double take. am i missing something?
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hello josh and welcome to the thread.
be careful with your bar formations. its a common mistake for new folks.
bar 1 is not a pin bar but an outside bar. to have been a pin bar its high would have needed to be within the prior bar.
bar 2 is simply an inside bar. it has a pin bar look to it but its not even close to being a true pin bar.
your highlighted bar is a pin bar and was a decent one in my opinion simply because oif where it formed. as jarroo said it went exactly where you would have suspected.
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thats what i thought. nice trade too, right where you were expecting.
those long nosed looking "pins" get a lot of people if they dont look closely. they have gotten me before. this one almost did until i clicked his chart and looked closely.
its a good habit to get into. just a mental checklist that doesnt take 3 seconds and it can often save your rear end.
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Josh and I were just talking about the 8 hour Pin bar that I took in real time earlier today.
Yes my mistake. That's an outside bar alright. And that outside bar it surely lying, just like pinocchio. lol
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koolo let me be honest with you. the only way you could spend countless hours at pa and not be good at it is because your trying to learn/understand more than is necessary.
you can practice one or two pa set ups with just a simple understanding of s/r for one month and apply that knowledge with a super picky entry attitude on longer term charts and be a better trader than most.
saying you hate bar charts confuses me.
you like candles i suppose. they are the exact same thing they just look different. they are providing the same exact information and bar charts WILL ALWAYS be better than candles when it comes to simplicity.
if you dont mind me saying so your trying to do what all traders do.
your trying to make something inherently simple complicated.
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i have a question for the members of james16 website
i spent countless hours studying price action and am still not that good at it...i heared james16 is the best place to learn pa
i wanted to ask "newbies" who joined...did you learn pa from the site ?
do i have to know bar chart to learn about pa in james16 site? (i saw in the guest video only bar charts...AND I HATE BAR CHARTS !!)
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wow one of those posts that could get my juices flowing.
everyone thought the world was flat until they sailed over the "edge".
you would be correct mr sing.
let me ask all of you something.
is a real trader someone that takes 2 or 3 trades a month and goes months without a loss?
is a real trader someone that trades 1 hour and sits up all day and night losing all of there money over and over?
is a real trader someone that takes 20 trades a day trying to eek out a living after taxes and commissions?
being a real trader does not mean a thing to me. i am only interested in one thing. am i succesful trader? is how im trading producing consistent positive results and making money AND is it working in all market conditions. sideways and trending?
am i consistently taking money out pf the market and does my method allow me to ignore market condition or movement?
im not interested personally in trying to win 60 percent of the time and using good MM to make it work.
im interested in going months without a loss and days if not weeks if im daytrading.
markets change and if you dont use a method that can ignore market changes and win a very high percentage of the time your going to lose EXPECIALLY if your daytrading.
trading is hard for those of you with small accounts and a lack of dicipline. dont feel bad ive been there.
trading is not hard for those with large accounts because when 2 or 3 trades a month makes you 200 pips total and its worth more than what your regualar job pays in a year waiting and being diciplined is easy.
i heard rob booker say one time that virtually every system ever developed could be succesful if an ultra disciplined approach was used and only 2 or 3 of the best set ups a month were taken. i agree but with one addition.
lets go back to the 2 or 3 trades a month statement i made earlier. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND BEING STOPPED OUT AT BREAKEVEN IS NOT A BAD THING.
i rarely let a trade run off of a DAILY chart more than 30 or so pips without moving my stop to breakeven and taking some profit. because i am ultra ultra picky its almost a 100% garuntee that im rarely going to lose trading like that.
whats going to happen is this. im going to get stopped out a lot but when that 1 in 5 runs for a 100 pips or more im going to bank 10 or 20 grand.
i took 3 trades in january and all were winners. 1 of them i posted here. they were dirt simple high odds trades. 2 of the 3 i took partial profit at roughly 30 to 40 pips and was stopped on the rest. 1 of them ran i think about 100 pips to a strong s/r area and i got out.
i daytrade the mini dow with the same thought process. where most are taking 15 trades a day im taking 1 or 2 if that.
it is VERY VERY difficult for a small account holder to trade like this. I
KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE.
very very few people trade like i do.
im not worried about ratios or winning percentages.
im focused on not losing.
not losing is not hard if your focus is directed with common sense and refusing to let a winner turn into a loser. trading just to trade is not common sense and hoping for more is how you let winners turn into losers.
i will take my 2 or 3 forex trades a month along with my other ultra careful trading and keep waking up every morning with the freedom to do what i want.
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would I be correct in saying that 95% of traders KNOW trading is difficult. But the 5% who are successful have realized it doesn't have to be.
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yes he does. lol.
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Been busy this week and havnt been here much but i see everything is going well.
I just posted a 30 minute excerpt from the 2/05/09 webinar for all of you on the guest side.
I try to put stuff in those guest videos that can really help you with the basics and the mental side of this business.
i think many of you will enjoy it,
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when you get to a point where you know whats going to happen when you look at a chart its the same as someone handing you the golden key to the kingdom. it truly is that profound.
problem is most people still cant get out of there own way.
what do i mean by that? (this is not directed at you arcus or anyone in particular its just me taking another oppurtunity to rant)
most traders practice no discipline, no common sense and a complete refusal to understand that this is a business and not a get rich quick endeavor. its yippee and yahooo and vegas time baby!!!
those of you starting out on daytrading time frames with real money will find out the hard way just like i did. when you fail there will be no one to blame but you.
food for thought from someone that has found himself in the fetal position more than once after dropping a boatload of money due to flat out being a moron.
to this day when i think about those times i want a shot of whiskey or something.
its that damn painful.
it cost me a lot. a lot more than just money.
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 Thanks Jim. Really appreciate it. God bless you, you're so helpful. Though I'm still not good at this stuff and hopefully by the end of this year (my target), but whenever I look at chart now, it seems much clearer what to expect. Thanks again!
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thanks jd,
no i never pull anything off.
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Again, many thanks for all you've done, especially when you started this thread, and followed through on your vision for what this thread could be. Then starting the PF and all the countless hours/days/weeks/etc... getting it up and running and then switching websites.
I am working diligently on learning PA, going through this thread. Right now, I am putting my full energy into this. But I haven't looked into the Guest section of PF yet... Do you ever pull things off of the Guest section? Meaning, should I instead work to catch up on...
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i saw this on friday and it made my weekend.
thank you.
sometimes i think 3 or 4 blown accounts can be a positive for some people. for me it was about 25.
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I'm rarely post my thought/insight here Jim, bcoz I'ts already been done by you and the great/kind hearted friends of yours (there are many and I bet u must be proud of them) in this thread. What you stated in this and all your previous post is very, very, very true (at least to me).
I blown 3 of my live acc, before I found your thread. It has been 8month's now and I'm around pg960 (kinda slow I'm  ). And you know what these pg 1-960 done to me? 6 months profits in a row! It's damn simple.
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yes there is a site but dont join until you have spent several months here first. by then you can make an educated decision on whats best for you. we have a free guest video section on the site also.
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Wanted to shout out here quickly. I started reading this thread for hours last night and barely put a dent in the 1000+ pages. Was wondering if James16 did actually put together a website and training material. Until then i will keep at it. thank you.
James16, I actually bought todd mitchells course back in october. There was so much volatility in the market that it wasnt working for on the emini s+p. I am sure no fault of the system as that was my 1st experience ever wiht trading. Since your base seems to come from his principals i am very eager...
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the research and development part of our trading business.
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THANKS FX AND THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS THREAD.
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This trade was one that called out for me to trade it. Thanks for teaching this stuff.
Respect.
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that was the big target you would expect eventually with resistance holding until reached. what is reality? the final target if thats the way someone trades or somewhere in between including breakeven. me personally was about half profit and half breakeven. most of my trades end up like that.
good question j,
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That was a classic J16 "A" trade in my book Jim. I made some solid pips off that one.
At what point did you realize that Price was going to possibly reach that level of expectance? Or was there a point after the break of the Pin Bar that told you that Price was going hit that level?
My thoughts are that we would manage our trade with the expectation that those levels would be reached, if not, our trade is protected.
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New Video For You Guys/gals
Just wanted to let you all know that a 30 minute excerpt from the recent webinar is now available in the guest area.
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thanks to all of you. i really do care that these help.
it means a lot to me when all of you say that they are helping you.
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